Florida creep gets 2nd smackdown on welfare drug testing

[Bo-4]

Hey Rick, maybe if you insist that all Florida politicians do mandatory testing your war on the poor will make more sense?

TPM LIVEWIRE
Judge Rules Rick Scott's Welfare Drug Testing Law Unconstitutional

AP Photo / Alan Diaz
ERIC LACH – JANUARY 2, 2014, 10:30 AM EST1831

A federal judge this week made permanent an earlier, temporary ban on a 2011 law signed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) requiring welfare applicants to undergo drug tests.

According to the News Service of Florida, U.S. District Judge Mary Scriven on Tuesday ruled that the law is unconstitutional, writing that the urine tests mandated by the law violate the Fourth Amendment.

"[T]here is no set of circumstances under which the warrantless, suspicionless drug testing at issue in this case could be constitutionally applied," Scriven wrote.

Scott continued to maintain that the drug tests were necessary, and vowed to appeal Scriven's ruling.

"Any illegal drug use in a family is harmful and even abusive to a child. We should have a zero tolerance policy for illegal drug use in families — especially those families who struggle to make ends meet and need welfare assistance to provide for their children," Scott said in a statement on Tuesday. "We will continue to fight for Florida children who deserve to live in drug-free homes by appealing this judge's decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals."

Scriven issued a preliminary order in October 2011 putting the law on hold -- a decision that Scott then appealed. But an 11th Circuit Court of Appeals panel later agreed with Scriven, and Scriven "relied heavily on the 11th Circuit opinion" in her ruling on Tuesday, according to the News Service of Florida.

 

[Corruptbuddha]

Hey Rick, maybe if you insist that all Florida politicians do mandatory testing your war on the poor will make more sense?

TPM LIVEWIRE
Judge Rules Rick Scott's Welfare Drug Testing Law Unconstitutional

AP Photo / Alan Diaz
ERIC LACH – JANUARY 2, 2014, 10:30 AM EST1831

A federal judge this week made permanent an earlier, temporary ban on a 2011 law signed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) requiring welfare applicants to undergo drug tests.

According to the News Service of Florida, U.S. District Judge Mary Scriven on Tuesday ruled that the law is unconstitutional, writing that the urine tests mandated by the law violate the Fourth Amendment.

"[T]here is no set of circumstances under which the warrantless, suspicionless drug testing at issue in this case could be constitutionally applied," Scriven wrote.

Scott continued to maintain that the drug tests were necessary, and vowed to appeal Scriven's ruling.

"Any illegal drug use in a family is harmful and even abusive to a child. We should have a zero tolerance policy for illegal drug use in families — especially those families who struggle to make ends meet and need welfare assistance to provide for their children," Scott said in a statement on Tuesday. "We will continue to fight for Florida children who deserve to live in drug-free homes by appealing this judge's decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals."

Scriven issued a preliminary order in October 2011 putting the law on hold -- a decision that Scott then appealed. But an 11th Circuit Court of Appeals panel later agreed with Scriven, and Scriven "relied heavily on the 11th Circuit opinion" in her ruling on Tuesday, according to the News Service of Florida.

Be a LOT easier if we just did away with welfare altogether.

 

[Craig]

Be a LOT easier if we just did away with welfare altogether.

Or did away with drug testing without warrants.

 

[Bo-4]

Or did away with drug testing without warrants.

The funniest thing about Rick's rule is that in their initial testing they found only HALF the incidence of positive results than you'd find in the population as a whole. About one in 100 where 2% is more the norm.

The clown still hasn't admitted that his REAL reason for doing this was to direct a buttload of business to his wife's chain of drug testing clinics.

 

[Corruptbuddha]

Or did away with drug testing without warrants.

Why 'or'?

Haven't you heard?

'And' is better.

 

[Craig]

The funniest thing about Rick's rule is that in their initial testing they found only HALF the incidence of positive results than you'd find in the population as a whole. About one in 100 where 2% is more the norm.

The clown still hasn't admitted that his REAL reason for doing this was to direct a buttload of business to his wife's chain of drug testing clinics.

The drug war has been one of the worst deals the US has ever gotten involved in. We failed to learn from alcohol prohibition and the same considerations apply to drug prohibition.

I will never understand giving control of these substances over to the cartels.

 

[worldlymrb]

I agree. if anyone needs to be drug tested it is our career politicians.

I also oppose work for welfare, which is the future economic model according to central banks white papers. As well as private debtor prisons for those who can't pay their govt backed student loans, FHA mortgages and govt backed car loans.

 

[Cerulean Mutt]

Hey Rick, maybe if you insist that all Florida politicians do mandatory testing your war on the poor will make more sense?

TPM LIVEWIRE
Judge Rules Rick Scott's Welfare Drug Testing Law Unconstitutional

AP Photo / Alan Diaz
ERIC LACH – JANUARY 2, 2014, 10:30 AM EST1831

A federal judge this week made permanent an earlier, temporary ban on a 2011 law signed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) requiring welfare applicants to undergo drug tests.

According to the News Service of Florida, U.S. District Judge Mary Scriven on Tuesday ruled that the law is unconstitutional, writing that the urine tests mandated by the law violate the Fourth Amendment.

"[T]here is no set of circumstances under which the warrantless, suspicionless drug testing at issue in this case could be constitutionally applied," Scriven wrote.

Scott continued to maintain that the drug tests were necessary, and vowed to appeal Scriven's ruling.

"Any illegal drug use in a family is harmful and even abusive to a child. We should have a zero tolerance policy for illegal drug use in families — especially those families who struggle to make ends meet and need welfare assistance to provide for their children," Scott said in a statement on Tuesday. "We will continue to fight for Florida children who deserve to live in drug-free homes by appealing this judge's decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals."

Scriven issued a preliminary order in October 2011 putting the law on hold -- a decision that Scott then appealed. But an 11th Circuit Court of Appeals panel later agreed with Scriven, and Scriven "relied heavily on the 11th Circuit opinion" in her ruling on Tuesday, according to the News Service of Florida.

You'd have thought that Gov. Scott would've taken the opportunity to toss this turkey of a program overboard. You gotta love all those fiscally conservative Republicans backing a program that costs them more money than it saves. Classic "spending a dollar chasing a nickel" scenario.

Did you catch the Govenor's feeble justification for pursuing the appeal? It's for the children! Laughable. Like the children of parents that do drugs don't need to eat.

 

[NightSwimmer]

We need a zero tolerance policy for fascist politicians who attempt to enrich their friends and family by using the power of the state to divert taxpayer money into their pockets.

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

The funniest thing about Rick's rule is that in their initial testing they found only HALF the incidence of positive results than you'd find in the population as a whole. About one in 100 where 2% is more the norm.

The clown still hasn't admitted that his REAL reason for doing this was to direct a buttload of business to his wife's chain of drug testing clinics.

I'd ask for a credible link, but you'll just lie again.

 

[Dawg]

Florida should legalize POT.........ALL.....states should do the same.

Dem/libs will support any and all welfare folks, they vote the 'D'

 

[worldlymrb]

We need a zero tolerance policy for fascist politicians who attempt to enrich their friends and family by using the power of the state to divert taxpayer money into their pockets.

Then we wouldn't have any politicians!!

 

[SW48]

We need a zero tolerance policy for fascist politicians who attempt to enrich their friends and family by using the power of the state to divert taxpayer money into their pockets.

Would this include the Obamas that used Michelles college friends software company for ACA?

Just asking, I don't have a dog in this fight, just trying to be fair.

 

[SW48]

The funniest thing about Rick's rule is that in their initial testing they found only HALF the incidence of positive results than you'd find in the population as a whole. About one in 100 where 2% is more the norm.

The clown still hasn't admitted that his REAL reason for doing this was to direct a buttload of business to his wife's chain of drug testing clinics.

Bo-4, when you throw around a hard to believe number like 2% you should include a link. I'm not saying its wrong, just curious and to be fair.

 

[Craig]

Bo-4, when you throw around a hard to believe number like 2% you should include a link. I'm not saying its wrong, just curious and to be fair.

Use your Google...

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

Bo-4, when you throw around a hard to believe number like 2% you should include a link. I'm not saying its wrong, just curious and to be fair.

liberals dont have to link to things they claim as fact... it's in their bylaws.

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

Use your Google...

If it's claimed as factual, proof should be provided by the claimant. otherwise, he's just another fvcking liberal liar.

 

[Saladin2]

No doubt that coke sniffing Congressman from Naples is pleased there is no drug testing for politicians.....

 

[Bo-4]

You'd have thought that Gov. Scott would've taken the opportunity to toss this turkey of a program overboard. You gotta love all those fiscally conservative Republicans backing a program that costs them more money than it saves. Classic "spending a dollar chasing a nickel" scenario.

Did you catch the Govenor's feeble justification for pursuing the appeal? It's for the children! Laughable. Like the children of parents that do drugs don't need to eat.

It's for the CHILDREN!!! Yep, they've been re-polishing that turd for decades. ;-)

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

You wouldn't accept any link a "lefty" put up anyway. So...you can go do your own research and then come back and tell us the figures.

Credible links are credible links. Links to a blog with unsubstantiated information, such as many liberals who bother to post links here use, are not credible. If Bo-bo posts something as fact, and can post a credible link backing it up, so be it. He has yet to do so.