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Free speech explained using the "N" word

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AIL

Jet fuel that's a good one.
There seams to be a lot of confusion about what exactly is free speech. Free speech does not mean you can say whatever you want because
there are some offensive words that can not be said in NORTH America.


I as a white man can not refer to my sister in laws as a N*****r (this word may be censored so I will spell it out :censored: ) But she can use this word when ever she wants .

In the USA when Rick Sanchez said that there too many Jews in News networks. He was immediately fired . He was free to say this but that comment was offensive to the Jewish
controllers of the news networks so he was fired. It was free speech but offense to some. The fall out of his Free speech was that no other news commentator, political pundit, has said anything similar to What Sanchez said right or wrong it was free speech. His comments were NEVER repeated.. Too offensive> To who?

Same for Helen Thomas when asked her opinion about the Jews in Israel she was free to say what she thought and she said "The Jews should go to back to where they came from" .Once again that was Free speech but offensive to Jews and she was immediately Fired..

So if you offend a black man/woman with the N word your are in trouble as a journalists. It's a very offense WORD. If you offend Jews; what ver is said it's instantly NOT FREE SPEECH.
But It's ALWAYS OK to offend Muslims and their Prophet Muhammad that is not offensive to Yankees but very offense to Muslims.

If the N word is taboo then maybe mocking Mohamed should also be TABOO as the N word is to Yankees.
 
I was right the N word was censored too offensive for Yankees . Proves my point.
 
AIL said:
There seams to be a lot of confusion about what exactly is free speech. Free speech does not mean you can say whatever you want because
there are some offensive words that can not be said in NORTH America.


I as a white man can not refer to my sister in laws as a N*****r (this word may be censored so I will spell it out :censored: ) But she can use this word when ever she wants .

In the USA when Rick Sanchez said that there too many Jews in News networks. He was immediately fired . He was free to say this but that comment was offensive to the Jewish
controllers of the news networks so he was fired. It was free speech but offense to some. The fall out of his Free speech was that no other news commentator, political pundit, has said anything similar to What Sanchez said right or wrong it was free speech. His comments were NEVER repeated.. Too offensive> To who?

Same for Helen Thomas when asked her opinion about the Jews in Israel she was free to say what she thought and she said "The Jews should go to back to where they came from" .Once again that was Free speech but offensive to Jews and she was immediately Fired..

So if you offend a black man/woman with the N word your are in trouble as a journalists. It's a very offense WORD. If you offend Jews; what ver is said it's instantly NOT FREE SPEECH.
But It's ALWAYS OK to offend Muslims and their Prophet Muhammad that is not offensive to Yankees but very offense to Muslims.

If the N word is taboo then maybe mocking Mohamed should also be TABOO as the N word is to Yankees.
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You are quite correct about some being freely able to use words some might find offensive from others.

My rule of thumb is that these words can only be freely by members of the group which might take offense. An exception might be that no Muslim would say anything derogatory about Muhammad, but I have heard many Christians use Jesus' and God's name in vain.

I was once trying to explain this all to my German pen-pal who is trying to master English, and he found it so complex that he said he'd refrain from using them at all, but would learn them to help him understand the words when an English speaker uses them.
 
Are you a liberal?

Because it would be consistent with the lack of knowledge of the Constitution.
 
Dino said:
Are you a liberal?

Because it would be consistent with the lack of knowledge of the Constitution.
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Are you addressing me. I am not American. What part of the constitution are you talking about?
Is it that Part that says "That all men were created equal. " (except black men)...Is that the part you are referring? When slavery was still a way of living (by oppressing ) but not part of the your bigoted constitution. .
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I was addressing you, but did not realize that your ignorance of the Constitution was due to not being an American citizen. You have a loose grasp of the First Amendment but it ensures Americans will not be prosecuted for demonstrating their right of free speech. It cannot help them from being fired. That is not constitutionally covered.

Hope that helps.
 
Now all you have to do is learn how the thread system works, and you'll be all set!

(ie, I wasn't posting to you eh Einstein?)
 
Dino said:
I was addressing you, but did not realize that your ignorance of the Constitution was due to not being an American citizen. You have a loose grasp of the First Amendment but it ensures Americans will not be prosecuted for demonstrating their right of free speech. It cannot help them from being fired. That is not constitutionally covered.

Hope that helps.
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So let me get this straight you are free to speak up and exercise you right to free speech . But you can lose your job if that free speech offends Jews. That seems to be a double standard you can criticize any nationality or religion. The US criticizes the French all the time with "surrender monkeys" and other offensive words that's OK ...its Free speech.
Criticizing latinos and illegal immigrants is also fare game Where in your "constitution " does it say that Jews can not be criticized. Why are Jews untouchable? Show me where it says so in your constitution???
 
AIL said:
So let me get this straight you are free to speak up and exercise you right to free speech . But you can lose your job if that free speech offends Jews. That seems to be a double standard you can criticize any nationality or religion. The US criticizes the French all the time with "surrender monkeys" and other offensive words that's OK ...its Free speech.
Criticizing latinos and illegal immigrants is also fare game Where in your "constitution " does it say that Jews can not be criticized. Why are Jews untouchable? Show me where it says so in your constitution???
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You can criticize any group you wish without fear of arrest, but there might be employers who forbid you from exercising some of your Constitutional rights in their workplace and are free to fire you unless you play by their rules, not the Constitution's.

The Constitution affords you a right to bear arms, but your employer is free to insist you not come armed to work.

If you wish your Constitutional rights to be observed in the workplace, seek an employer who will permit it, but in these times, you might want to sacrifice some of your Constitutional rights in the workplace to have a job.
 
colfax said:
You can criticize any group you wish without fear of arrest, but there might be employers who forbid you from exercising some of your Constitutional rights in their workplace and are free to fire you unless you play by their rules, not the Constitution's.

The Constitution affords you a right to bear arms, but your employer is free to insist you not come armed to work.

If you wish your Constitutional rights to be observed in the workplace, seek an employer who will permit it, but in these times, you might want to sacrifice some of your Constitutional rights in the workplace to have a job.
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Free speech has to apply everywhere what you say even at work should be protected by free speech. If I worked Fox news and said something bad about Mitt on fox . It's free speech and I should be allowed to keep my Job. Either you apply free speech everywhere or make exceptions everywhen when some one objects. The gun thing is a separate issue bring a gun, a grenade or a machine gun, to work, to an airport or to school is just stupid and illegal. Let's leave the gun issue out of this .,

You STILL can't SAY the N word (PJ) censored the N word and the spelling of the N word too Offensive.. So too for Muslims you can't mock the profit Mohammad too offensive.

Same thing for you Yankee as the N word is TABOO in America The N word is not in the Constitution.. So it should be Ok to use it? Constitutional expert!
If you say that N Word to Muslims they will not be offended at all. Get it; different Nations different costumes different things are offensive.
If more Yankees travel outside and saw how things are in other countries then maybe you would See things a little but different that in America. You are only 330 million the rest of the WORLD is 7. 6 billion they have more things that may be too offensive that the taboo yankee N word.
 
"Free speech"... the "freedom of speech", you know, that thing in the First Amendment?

It's hard to complain about people getting fired when the constitutional standard of "free speech" isn't being used.
 
I think you're wrong. I'm sure if you go around your job claiming Obama is a "Muslim terrorist" and say so on yout TV news job, you'll probably get canned. Of course, that's up to the employer, you're guaranteed nothing by the Constitution in your place of work.
 
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