GOP liars: Obama said he only wants to "contain" ISIS!

[Bugsy McGurk]

What Obama has actually said, from the get-go....

My fellow Americans, tonight I want to speak to you about what the United States will do with our friends and allies to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL.

And he also said from the get-go that it would not be quick.

Read his statement....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/09/10/statement-president-isil-1

And, indeed, that destruction is well underway.

Did Obama say that he only wants to "contain" ISIS? Nope. But you can't watch the news for 5 minutes without hearing some GOP cult leader teall that lie.

 

[Sickofleft]

What Obama has actually said, from the get-go....

My fellow Americans, tonight I want to speak to you about what the United States will do with our friends and allies to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL.

And he also said from the get-go that it would not be quick.

Read his statement....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/09/10/statement-president-isil-1

And, indeed, that destruction is well underway.

Did Obama say that he only wants to "contain" ISIS? Nope. But you can't watch the news for 5 minutes without hearing some GOP cult leader teall that lie.

It does not matter what he says, nobody in the world takes him seriously since his "magic" red line in Syria.

What the President said is he "wants to destroy ISIS" but has done next to nothing to make that actually happen. He has claimed they are contained, they are not.

He is doing just enough so when people ask, he can point to what we have been doing and hope everyone moves on to another question. Well, after Paris people are not moving on to other questions and his "strategy" has been exposed as feckless at best and non existent at worst.

 

[Dino]

What Obama has actually said, from the get-go....

My fellow Americans, tonight I want to speak to you about what the United States will do with our friends and allies to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL.

And he also said from the get-go that it would not be quick.

Read his statement....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/09/10/statement-president-isil-1

And, indeed, that destruction is well underway.

Did Obama say that he only wants to "contain" ISIS? Nope. But you can't watch the news for 5 minutes without hearing some GOP cult leader teall that lie.

"Contain" or destroy....which one did he

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

It does not matter what he says, nobody in the world takes him seriously since his "magic" red line in Syria.

What the President said is he "wants to destroy ISIS" but has done next to nothing to make that actually happen. He has claimed they are contained, they are not.

He is doing just enough so when people ask, he can point to what we have been doing and hope everyone moves on to another question. Well, after Paris people are not moving on to other questions and his "strategy" has been exposed as feckless at best and non existent at worst.

If you don't care about what he says then why do you haters constantly lie about what he says?

Sheesh.

And while you nuts constantly carp that Obama is not "doing enough," you do not specify what you would do that is different.

US combat troops to duke it out with ISIS? Is that what you demand? If not, then what?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

"Contain" or destroy....which one did he

He didn't even use the word "contain" when setting out the goals, as you know. He said "destroy."

And yet you GOP liars constantly claim he only wants to "contain" ISIS.

Truly disgraceful lying.

 

[Dino]

He didn't even use the word "contain" when setting out the goals, as you know. He said "destroy."

And yet you GOP liars constantly claim he only wants to "contain" ISIS.

Truly disgraceful lying.

I'll take either, which has he done?

He's not leading on the issue of ISIS. The leadership, the ideas, support of allies, any workable plan- all lacking.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

I'll take either, which has he done?

He's not leading on the issue of ISIS. The leadership, the ideas, support of allies, any workable plan- all lacking.

Thus far, degraded. The destruction part will take more time, and will require blood and sacrifice from the Iraqis and Syrians themselves, to take back their land, as he said from Day 1.

It's downright psychotic to say he has not led, and has no "workable" plan. He led the allied response against ISIS, and our pilots and other military risk their lives daily. The plan remains as he announced it from Day 1 - bombing ISIS targets and preparing Iraqis and Syrians to engage in the ground combat required to take back their land. You hope it fails, but that doesn't mean it will fail. Despite your hopes for failure, there have been great strides on the ground, and more is yet to come.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

If you don't care about what he says then why do you haters constantly lie about what he says?

Sheesh.

And while you nuts constantly carp that Obama is not "doing enough," you do not specify what you would do that is different.

US combat troops to duke it out with ISIS? Is that what you demand? If not, then what?

It's odd how you take some people's word as gold. I mean, you do know what a politician is right?

Do you think any politician is going to come out and say anything that might make them look weak or admit a vulnerability amidst something happening?

It's up to people to use their minds as far as whether or not it has credibility or if its just hot air and grandstanding.

Obama's foreign policy overall has been dismal, there's really no arguing that, is there?

Obama flinched on his "red line", did he not?

 

[marvin martian]

Did Obama say that he only wants to "contain" ISIS?

No he didn't say that, he said they were already contained, a few hours before they killed 129 people in Paris.

 

[Dino]

Thus far, degraded. The destruction part will take more time, and will require blood and sacrifice from the Iraqis and Syrians themselves, to take back their land, as he said from Day 1.

It's downright psychotic to say he has not led, and has no "workable" plan. He led the allied response against ISIS, and our pilots and other military risk their lives daily. The plan remains as he announced it from Day 1 - bombing ISIS targets and preparing Iraqis and Syrians to engage in the ground combat required to take back their land. You hope it fails, but that doesn't mean it will fail. Despite your hopes for failure, there have been great strides on the ground, and more is yet to come.

Bombing is not, and has never been, considered a strategy for eliminating the terrorist threat and his training strategy has been an embarrassing and expensive failure.
Got anything else?

 

[Sickofleft]

If you don't care about what he says then why do you haters constantly lie about what he says?

Sheesh.

And while you nuts constantly carp that Obama is not "doing enough," you do not specify what you would do that is different.

US combat troops to duke it out with ISIS? Is that what you demand? If not, then what?

I realize this is hard for you, I mean your beloved President the "one we have been waiting for" has been a abysmal failure especially on the foreign policy front.

However having said that try and stay grounded in reality. Nobody is lying about what he said, he stated if Syria used chemical weapons again it would be a red line for the US, he stated the goal of these operations against ISIS were to degrade and destroy them, he declared Yemen an example of how our anti-terrorism strategy is working and will work in the future............on and on and on it goes.................

It reminds me of a line in Macbeth "told by an idiot, full of noise and emotional disturbance but devoid of meaning".

He never backed up his own rhetoric. The "strategy" he is employing against ISIS is NOT working, at the press conference in Turkey he basically doubled down on an action that is doing nothing to solve the problem.

Yes, if you want to destroy ISIS (and I would argue we have to) ground troops are the only way to get it done. Our President is not going to do that, ISIS knows this.

Strap yourself to something and buy a helmet because the next 14 months are going to be very bad.

 

[as seen on tv]

'hey . . mr president .. hows the degrade thing going?"

"um . . great. ISIS has more than doubled its territory, and hundreds of French citizens were just killed or maimed. we're ahead of schedule. we're completely degraded by our failures"

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

It's odd how you take some people's word as gold. I mean, you do know what a politician is right?

Do you think any politician is going to come out and say anything that might make them look weak or admit a vulnerability amidst something happening?

It's up to people to use their minds as far as whether or not it has credibility or if its just hot air and grandstanding.

Obama's foreign policy overall has been dismal, there's really no arguing that, is there?

Obama flinched on his "red line", did he not?

That jive is tedious.

Take the "red line" canard. Obama said Syria's use of chemical weapons would cross a red line. Let's just assume that crossing a red line always means we will respond militarily. What did Syria then do? They knuckled under and surrendered their WMD's. And thus, a GOP canard was born.

OF COURSE, Obama didn't bomb them - they gave up their WMDs without the need to fire a shot. A masterful Obama achievement, distorted by GOP liars into Obama not following through on a threat, when the threat itself accomplished the goal.

All GOP canards are similarly tedious.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

'hey . . mr president .. hows the degrade thing going?"

"um . . great. ISIS has more than doubled its territory, and hundreds of French citizens were just killed or maimed. we're ahead of schedule. we're completely degraded by our failures"

Actually, ISIS is losing territory, and they are weakened further with each air strike.

Looks like the right wing echo chamber hasn't told you haters yet.

 

[bdtex]

What Obama has actually said, from the get-go....

My fellow Americans, tonight I want to speak to you about what the United States will do with our friends and allies to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL.

And he also said from the get-go that it would not be quick.

Read his statement....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/09/10/statement-president-isil-1

And, indeed, that destruction is well underway.

Did Obama say that he only wants to "contain" ISIS? Nope. But you can't watch the news for 5 minutes without hearing some GOP cult leader teall that lie.

Don't bother them. It's Ebola time again.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

I realize this is hard for you, I mean your beloved President the "one we have been waiting for" has been a abysmal failure especially on the foreign policy front.

However having said that try and stay grounded in reality. Nobody is lying about what he said, he stated if Syria used chemical weapons again it would be a red line for the US, he stated the goal of these operations against ISIS were to degrade and destroy them, he declared Yemen an example of how our anti-terrorism strategy is working and will work in the future............on and on and on it goes.................

It reminds me of a line in Macbeth "told by an idiot, full of noise and emotional disturbance but devoid of meaning".

He never backed up his own rhetoric. The "strategy" he is employing against ISIS is NOT working, at the press conference in Turkey he basically doubled down on an action that is doing nothing to solve the problem.

Yes, if you want to destroy ISIS (and I would argue we have to) ground troops are the only way to get it done. Our President is not going to do that, ISIS knows this.

Strap yourself to something and buy a helmet because the next 14 months are going to be very bad.

I disposed of the GOP's "red line" canard above, yet again.

As to the Obama ISIS strategy, you carp because it has not achieved total success yet. You have this relentless urge to oppose what Obama says, leading you to want to throw US combat troops back into the meat grinder. It ain't gonna happen, so you better stow your crazed bloodlust. Either Iraqis and Syrians do the ground combat, or our bombing continues unabated until they do. Obama will not unnecessarily main and kill more US soldiers. We had more than enough of that under GWB.

 

[write on]

No he didn't say that, he said they were already contained, a few hours before they killed 129 people in Paris.

He was talking about how they were contained in Iran.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...nter-Sinjar-to-retake-the-town-from-Isil.html

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

He was talking about how they were contained in Iran.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...nter-Sinjar-to-retake-the-town-from-Isil.html

Another GOP canard has been born.

Obama says one thing, haters pretend he was talking about something else.

;-)

 

[write on]

Another GOP canard has been born.

Obama says one thing, haters pretend he was talking about something else.

;-)

If right wingers were to read the link I posted, they would see that you can't contain ISIL with bombs alone. You have to gut their funding.

Right wingers never think things through. Everything's jingoistic with them.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

If right wingers were to read the link I posted, they would see that you can't contain ISIL with bombs alone. You have to gut their funding.

Right wingers never think things through. Everything's jingoistic with them.

Their "rule" is quite simple - if Obama is for it, they are against it. If Obama is against it, they are for it.

They may not be rocket scientists, but they can remember that simple rule.

;-)