GOP Lost the battle, how about the war?

[Jen]

With this recent budget issue, I feel that the mainstream Republicans lost it for those fighting for what they considered to be important. John McCain, et al........ calling other Republicans names hurt...actually, ruined the whole effort. The New Guard GOP made mistakes too. They should have, after so many failed attempts, stopped trying to defund Obamacare and focused on two important issues and made sure that the people of this country understood that

1. if companies are not required to get on board with ACA for a year, then individuals should get the same break for a year. It's the fair thing to do.

2. the medical device tax needed to be put off for at least a year. That tax is going to kill some old people on a fixed income who need medical devices to live.

If Republican New Guard had focused on those two things, they might have come out of this with something in their hands. But they kept beating a dead horse - defunding Obamacare.

As it is, the country will have to learn the hard way.

It is what it is.
I'll say "We told you so" now....... and probably again later.

 

[Jen]

The problems continue.

Tech experts tell USA Today: “The federal health care exchange was built using 10-year-old technology that may require constant fixes and updates for the next six months and the eventual overhaul of the entire system.”

 

[Sickofleft]

When everything settles from this stupid shut down the Democrats are still going to answer and deal with what a disaster the ACA is. They are going to have to run on it in the 2014 midterms when this shutdown is long forgotten.

 

[Colorforms]

The problems continue.

Maybe they should have gotten the people at Blizzard to make the website. They could make it a game in which you're armed with your magic Obiecare wand, and you have to run through the economy killing corporations

 

[Jen]

When everything settles from this stupid shut down the Democrats are still going to answer and deal with what a disaster the ACA is. They are going to have to run on it in the 2014 midterms when this shutdown is long forgotten.

That's very true. By the mid term election in 2014, the lies they are telling now will be busted.

 

[Sunset Rose]

When everything settles from this stupid shut down the Democrats are still going to answer and deal with what a disaster the ACA is. They are going to have to run on it in the 2014 midterms when this shutdown is long forgotten.

This shutdown is not going to be forgotten very easily. It is going to hurt the Republicans in 2014. Watch and see.

 

[Jen]

This shutdown is not going to be forgotten very easily. It is going to hurt the Republicans in 2014. Watch and see.

The Democratic machine worked pretty well in giving Republicans the blame for something they caused. They are very good at playing dirty. And many people in this country are paying little enough attention that they go along with that. I hope that enough people who see the truth are willing to stand up and vote.

 

[Corruptbuddha]

Maybe they should have gotten the people at Blizzard to make the website. They could make it a game in which you're armed with your magic Obiecare wand, and you have to run through the economy killing corporations

Why not hire the Google folks?

Hell, they're the REAL experts.

 

[squareshot]

This shutdown is not going to be forgotten very easily. It is going to hurt the Republicans in 2014. Watch and see.

It will hurt every American for years to come. And the people have every right to be mad as hell, at the Republican Party for as far down the road as I can see. FOOLS !

 

[justoffal]

With this recent budget issue, I feel that the mainstream Republicans lost it for those fighting for what they considered to be important. John McCain, et al........ calling other Republicans names hurt...actually, ruined the whole effort. The New Guard GOP made mistakes too. They should have, after so many failed attempts, stopped trying to defund Obamacare and focused on two important issues and made sure that the people of this country understood that

1. if companies are not required to get on board with ACA for a year, then individuals should get the same break for a year. It's the fair thing to do.

2. the medical device tax needed to be put off for at least a year. That tax is going to kill some old people on a fixed income who need medical devices to live.

If Republican New Guard had focused on those two things, they might have come out of this with something in their hands. But they kept beating a dead horse - defunding Obamacare.

As it is, the country will have to learn the hard way.

It is what it is.
I'll say "We told you so" now....... and probably again later.

Honestly it's much better if they do...

Here's the thing..

The TP members had a good point when the said they were actually trying to protect the consumers......however they were no match for the politcal crack machine on the left that feeds into people's fears and weaknesses and therefore has an endless amount of negitve fuel to burn.

So now that they have been painted with that brush....even after lefty learns the hard way lefty will only remember that they hate the TP not that the TP was standing up for their rights.

Lefty will reach the exact same conclusoins that the TP was helping them to see...but they will not remember that it was the TP that was trying to help the see it.

Lefty will only remember the one word, one phrase commands that most canines recognize.

Bad!
Good!

Tea party Bad!

Democrats Good!

JO

 

[justoffal]

It will hurt every American for years to come. And the people have every right to be mad as hell, at the Republican Party for as far down the road as I can see. FOOLS !

You idiot......

don't you watch the Debt clock?

it spns off more every day than the paltry number that you put up.

Pahleese grow a brain.

The Real harm is ahead.

US debt is growing by 1.8 billion a day... 28.8 billion for 16 days of that
The shutdown supposedly ( cough, cough ) cost 24 Billion for 16 days...
so Stooooopid.....which one of those is worse and which one of those is still continuing as ot today?


JO

 

[Jen]

Honestly it's much better if they do...

Here's the thing..

The TP members had a good point when the said they were actually trying to protect the consumers......however they were no match for the politcal crack machine on the left that feeds into people's fears and weaknesses and therefore has an endless amount of negitve fuel to burn.

So now that they have been painted with that brush....even after lefty learns the hard way lefty will only remember that they hate the TP not that the TP was standing up for their rights.

Lefty will reach the exact same conclusoins that the TP was helping them to see...but they will not remember that it was the TP that was trying to help the see it.

Lefty will only remember the one word, one phrase commands that most canines recognize.

Bad!
Good!

Tea party Bad!

Democrats Good!

JO

Yep. Except that dogs are much smarter than Lefty.

 

[resident_evil]

With this recent budget issue, I feel that the mainstream Republicans lost it for those fighting for what they considered to be important. John McCain, et al........ calling other Republicans names hurt...actually, ruined the whole effort. The New Guard GOP made mistakes too. They should have, after so many failed attempts, stopped trying to defund Obamacare and focused on two important issues and made sure that the people of this country understood that

1. if companies are not required to get on board with ACA for a year, then individuals should get the same break for a year. It's the fair thing to do.

2. the medical device tax needed to be put off for at least a year. That tax is going to kill some old people on a fixed income who need medical devices to live.

If Republican New Guard had focused on those two things, they might have come out of this with something in their hands. But they kept beating a dead horse - defunding Obamacare.

As it is, the country will have to learn the hard way.

It is what it is.
I'll say "We told you so" now....... and probably again later.

The war depends on something like this.

https://www.politicaljack.com/threads/what-the-new-conservative-strategy-will-be.60049/

A strategy only for the next 2-4 years.
http://www.kindgirls.com/girls/luba-shumeyko/5

 

[squareshot]

You idiot......

don't you watch the Debt clock?

it spns off more every day than the paltry number that you put up.

Pahleese grow a brain.

The Real harm is ahead.

JO

I don't know what debt clocks you are talking about, but I do know that we owe a lot more now than we did when this nonsense started. It's not like we were not already deep enough in debt. Since you are obviously Republican cannon fodder, I will forgive the irrational nonsense you put in this garbage post.

 

[justoffal]

I don't know what debt clocks you are talking about, but I do know that we owe a lot more now than we did when this nonsense started. It's not like we were not already deep enough in debt. Since you are obviously Republican cannon fodder, I will forgive the irrational nonsense you put in this garbage post.

Why do you think there was a fight to begin with? Because we are going under by nearly 2 billion a day .... day in and day out.

That's why a few people stood up to the majority and said... HEY! If we don't stop this process we will go bankrupt in a few years...maybe sooner.

But no...like any drunk at happy hour.....he/she doesn't care about the bar tab until the next day.

JO

 

[SW48]

It will hurt every American for years to come. And the people have every right to be mad as hell, at the Republican Party for as far down the road as I can see. FOOLS !

I am not sure the shutdown actually hurt anyone. Who did it hurt?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The Tea Party won big time here... getting their message out, while the Democrats are upping the debt ceiling and putting us into the 17 trillions..

They didn't win the "battle", but as far as marketing goes, and a message of fiscal responsibility.. it couldn't have gone better.

Unfortunately, in the "battle", the dual-party shutdown caused economic "casualties". The blood is on both sides' hands.

 

[Saladin2]

Great to see these Republican idiots at each others throats...When will the next shut down be?...Jan 2014?.....Each day the Republican party sinks lower and lower....Believe it

 

[Sunset Rose]

I am not sure the shutdown actually hurt anyone. Who did it hurt?

Do you watch the news?

 

[Sunset Rose]

Great to see these Republican idiots at each others throats...When will the next shut down be?...Jan 2014?.....Each day the Republican party sinks lower and lower....Believe it

And the sad thing is, they can't even see it.