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Green Mafia goes on the Offensive in California

justoffal

justoffal

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I am a believer in efficiency. If your windows are old.....either replace them or use a High-R insert. If your AC unit has a dirty filter...change it! If you have a problem with a given light in a given room.....get a motion switch.....also while you're there pick up a programmable thermostat...insulate your boiler pipes and hot water pipes.....cover your cooking pots....

Most of this is commons sense.

And while I think the fifty dollar LED bulbs are just plain retarded....I am a believer in the new style of low energy light bulbs.....you can get a six pack of 23 watt bulbs with a fairly good lumen count at Wally-world for about eight bucks nowadays.....it's well worth it.

I am also a fan of passive building. If we are going to adopt green standards on a wholesale scale....this is the way to go...it's not perfect but it's the right idea for sure.

California...the " Control me " state however has once again proven itself to be among the nosiest and most intrusive legislatures in the nation....oh yeah I forgot...they're also the ones in deepest debt I believe.

I have said time and again that solar energy such as it is in its present form....is a loser, same with wind power. That is not to say that eventually a string of break-through won't make them better but I believe personally that in ten years from now Wind and Solar will be the old toys in the box marked for the yard sale and that we will be looking at various forms of gravitational energy gimmicks and perhaps even TOKAMAK generation.

The current push to embrace the solar industry is just that... a push to spend money on an industry that is having trouble standing on its own two feet. Forcing people to build new homes with solar ready roofing....is insane. It should remain a choice of the individual. The resulting added costs to building will put a damper on new construction despite what the bright and shining prognosticators of the Green Mafia claim.

Oh and here is your California Commissioner of Energy...

Hmmmmm......why did I just know this?


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Not so ....what part of the discussion are you talking about that I have not thoroughly debunked? The Prius is no more economical than any other 75 horsepower machine....and certainly nowhere near as efficient as the VW golf.
 
justoffal said:
Not so ....what part of the discussion are you talking about that I have not thoroughly debunked? The Prius is no more economical than any other 75 horsepower machine....and certainly nowhere near as efficient as the VW golf.
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Actually it is more economical precisely because of regenerative breaking. We went through this. You admitted that you had not actually understood how the gearbox etc. worked

Furthermore plug-in hybrids/electrics, for in-city driving are more efficient than the most efficient otto-cycle engine because despite line losses, the big powerplant generators are that much more efficient.


Note also that all that CA is doing is requring that roof structures be SLIGHTLY reinforced to be able to carry the weight of solar panels at some point in the future. This is little different than requiring exterior walls to be 6" of insulated space instead of just Board and Lathe... How that becomes "insanity" is rather curious.
 
Thankfully most young people and nations of the world are embracing "green" technology.....Thankfully these old grumpy conservative white men will soon die off.....And the world will move forward without having to hear there bi=tching and complaining
 
J_O, I guarentee you that if "gravitational energy gimmicks and perhaps even TOKAMAK generation" became feasible in the next 10 years?

Big Oil and Coal would create a "non-profit think-tank" called "Citizens for Safe Energy"....give "grants" to a lot of "scientists" that will write reports on how "gravity generators MAY cause cancer" or "Fusion reactors have the POTENTIAL for H-BOMB type explosions".....

these will then be put up on the "Citizens for Safe Energy" website......Matt Drudge will link to it with a bold headline "SCIENTISTS SAY TOKAMAK COULD BECOME ANOTHER HIROSHIMA".......Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity will then cite said story on their radio shows......Bill O'Reilly (and Sean) and the bobble-heads on "Fox & Friends" will repeat it....

and well-before that your friends on the Blogosphere Right will be repeating it and talking about how "lib'ruls want to KILL us with gravity and hydrogen bomb power plants when we have SAFE coal-fired plants ready to go as soon as the Democrats stop blocking their construction!!!!"
 
I didn't say that the Prius was garbage only that it can be easily matched by non hybrid vehicles for efficiency and cost of ownership. Regenerative breaking is good for a little...but not very much....however it is still more than a vehicle that does not have RB.
 
Yes well ahem, all of us are going in that direction....being an Old, Grumpy white guy does not purvey any special qualifications for that eventuality....but yes they are going there too.
 
justoffal said:
I didn't say that the Prius was garbage only that it can be easily matched by non hybrid vehicles for efficiency
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And on that you are not correct.
Regenerative breaking is good for a little...but not very much....however it is still more than a vehicle that does not have RB.
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And that by definition means that HP for HP, it will outpeform. Because even if it recovers only 1% (and its more like 10%) it does not have to use fuel to generate that 10% a second time.


But that's a digression. How is requiring a minor increase in roof structure so that it can support solar power infrastructure "insanity" any more than increasing insulation codes so that now exterior walls have to be built with 2x6s "insanity"?
 
Because one assumes consumption whereas the other simply prevents it....there's no competition between the ideas whatsoever.

Prevention of consumption trumps the other angle all the time.

JO
 
Notice how all the big players in the green energy scam are global conglomerates who are also part of the Military Industrial Complex?

Not to mention carbon credit exchanges are modeled off ENRON and pioneered by Ken Lay...What could possibly go wrong?
 
Yeah it's definitely just trading up from one set of pickpockets to another....and no I did not notice that but THANK you for that insight it is definitely significant!
 
justoffal said:
Yeah it's definitely just trading up from one set of pickpockets to another....and no I did not notice that but THANK you for that insight it is definitely significant!
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Dude, when you are taking compliment from the Orbital Mind Control Vortex Generator crowd.... you are way out there.
 
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