Guess who might have been an "Evil Plan Parenthood" fetus customer ?

[Spamature]

The GOP is lucky to have TrumZilla. He distracts from the total hypocrisy of the other candidates.


according to Dr. Jen Gunter, an OB-GYN and pain medicine physician, the Republican presidential candidate published a study with three other colleagues in 1992 that described using “human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”


She wrote on her blog:


As a neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson knows full well that fetal tissue is essential for medical research. His discipline would have a hard time being [where] it is today without that kind of work. What is even more egregious than dismissing the multitude of researchers whose work allowed him to become a neurosurgeon is the hypocrisy of actually having done that research himself while spouting off about its supposed worthlessness.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-aborted-fetal-tissue_55cc920ce4b0898c48869108

 

[Caroljo]

How about you wait to see if it's true? Like your TP states....MIGHT have been. Nobody has said fetal tissue can't be used for research. The problem is, is PP making money on what they're doing. The other problem is, did PP get permission from the women that had the abortions to donate their children to science. It has NOTHING to do with the doctors or anyone else that received those donations. It would have to be proven that they did anything wrong. The problem IS Planned Parenthood and how they collected those fetal parts.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

How about you wait to see if it's true? Like your TP states....MIGHT have been. Nobody has said fetal tissue can't be used for research. The problem is, is PP making money on what they're doing. The other problem is, did PP get permission from the women that had the abortions to donate their children to science. It has NOTHING to do with the doctors or anyone else that received those donations. It would have to be proven that they did anything wrong. The problem IS Planned Parenthood and how they collected those fetal parts.

People who deal in fetal tissue for research purposes should not get paid for it?

What do you have against capitalism?

 

[Dawg]

The GOP is lucky to have TrumZilla. He distracts from the total hypocrisy of the other candidates.


according to Dr. Jen Gunter, an OB-GYN and pain medicine physician, the Republican presidential candidate published a study with three other colleagues in 1992 that described using “human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”


She wrote on her blog:


As a neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson knows full well that fetal tissue is essential for medical research. His discipline would have a hard time being [where] it is today without that kind of work. What is even more egregious than dismissing the multitude of researchers whose work allowed him to become a neurosurgeon is the hypocrisy of actually having done that research himself while spouting off about its supposed worthlessness.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-aborted-fetal-tissue_55cc920ce4b0898c48869108

Even if TRUE, why are you libs not remembering according to liberalism folks can change their minds, ya boy Θ was dead AGAINST gay marriage before FOR gay marriage. SO after years of research your saying what, Carson doesn't have the same right to change his mind?

1992 OMG and libs here bi tch about OLD reports...........2 weeks old........'5 slaughtered by knife'..........

Why don't your donate your organs to science TONIGHT, since you think this is so great for mankind?

 

[Dawg]

People who deal in fetal tissue for research purposes should not get paid for it?

What do you have against capitalism?

Ignorance of the LAW is not going to get your DODGE solid credence.........and some of the libs here claim BUG is a Lawyer. ROTFLMFAO

So you claim PP can make a profit on selling baby parts_______? (if so, you're more stupid than I thought)

What do you have against the Constitution ?

 

[BobbyT]

Even if TRUE, why are you libs not remembering according to liberalism folks can change their minds, ya boy Θ was dead AGAINST gay marriage before FOR gay marriage. SO after years of research your saying what, Carson doesn't have the same right to change his mind?

1992 OMG and libs here bi tch about OLD reports...........2 weeks old........'5 slaughtered by knife'..........

Why don't your donate your organs to science TONIGHT, since you think this is so great for mankind?

It is true. Benny has no problem using fetal tissue for research. He just objects to the one specific supplier. If he doesn't know who the supplier was, it's just a "specimen." Carson knows the research is important, and continues to say so. "Asked if fetal tissue research should be banned, or if it was immoral, Carson said no." http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-no-apologies-for-1992-fetal-tissue-research/

 

[BobbyT]

How about you wait to see if it's true? Like your TP states....MIGHT have been. Nobody has said fetal tissue can't be used for research. The problem is, is PP making money on what they're doing. The other problem is, did PP get permission from the women that had the abortions to donate their children to science. It has NOTHING to do with the doctors or anyone else that received those donations. It would have to be proven that they did anything wrong. The problem IS Planned Parenthood and how they collected those fetal parts.

It is true. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-no-apologies-for-1992-fetal-tissue-research/

PP can't make money on selling fetal tissue. It's against the law. Speaking of "it would have to proven that they did anything wrong," the same holds true for PP. They haven't.

 

[Spamature]

Even if TRUE, why are you libs not remembering according to liberalism folks can change their minds, ya boy Θ was dead AGAINST gay marriage before FOR gay marriage. SO after years of research your saying what, Carson doesn't have the same right to change his mind?

1992 OMG and libs here bi tch about OLD reports...........2 weeks old........'5 slaughtered by knife'..........

Why don't your donate your organs to science TONIGHT, since you think this is so great for mankind?

He didn't change his mind. He just made up a bs excuse for his behavior.

If you’re killing babies and taking the tissue, that’s a very different thing than taking a dead specimen and keeping a record of it."

He turns what he calls a baby when it was possession of PP into a dead specimen once he gets his paws on it an started hacking it up out of curiosity.

Like I said, HYPOCRISY !

 

[Spamature]

How about you wait to see if it's true? Like your TP states....MIGHT have been. Nobody has said fetal tissue can't be used for research. The problem is, is PP making money on what they're doing. The other problem is, did PP get permission from the women that had the abortions to donate their children to science. It has NOTHING to do with the doctors or anyone else that received those donations. It would have to be proven that they did anything wrong. The problem IS Planned Parenthood and how they collected those fetal parts.

You think he asked if the woman gave permission before he grabbed his knife and started hacking that fetus to pieces ?

Ben Carson: No apologies for 1992 fetal tissue research

 

[Spamature]

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So you want to kill off the future Ben Carsons of the world ? I am sure he'd love to see the kinds of feelings about Blacks his supporters have.

 

[gigi]

It is true. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-no-apologies-for-1992-fetal-tissue-research/

PP can't make money on selling fetal tissue. It's against the law. Speaking of "it would have to proven that they did anything wrong," the same holds true for PP. They haven't.

You might want to watch the latest video. The tech who gives the interview explains how people from her company and people from PP were given $ incentives to collect specimen.

And, you might want to read the Abby Johnson interview. She explained how it worked in her clinic very clearly:

A company asks for particular specimens, quoting the price they'll pay per...50 dollars, 75 dollars, 200 dollars...It depended on what they sought. The "counselors" at the abortion mill would then try to solicit consent to donate tissue from the patients. In most cases, the counselors were given monetary rewards ranging from 5 dollars to 20 dollars per consent, depending on what the buyer was paying for the specimen.

In addition to that, the buyer supplied the shipping materials, ice, etc...So the abortions would be done all day, with the collected specimens put in individual bags in the freezer. At the end of the day, the specimens would go into ONE box and be shipped. Johnson said it cost about 14 dollars to ship that box. Sometimes the buyer would send an employee to pick it up themselves. Everything else was profit. She says that her clinic sometimes profited as much as 120 thousand dollars in a month from selling specimens.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/10/f...irector-explains-the-tissue-donation-process/

As for Carson, who knows.....maybe he's "evolved" on the issue. Then again maybe he couldn't care less what's going on at PP. His opinion, one way or the other, doesn't change what's going on.

The very best things that are coming out of these videos are that A)people who dare to watch them are seeing the little arms and legs and heads of these innocent victims. Abortions are no longer so easily sanitized to a "choice".
B)girls and women are seeing a whole other side to those seemingly compassionate and gentle folks in the clinics that pretend to care. And C)there is a greater prayer effort being extended for those workers and their conversion.

 

[Spamature]

You might want to watch the latest video. The tech who gives the interview explains how people from her company and people from PP were given $ incentives to collect specimen.

And, you might want to read the Abby Johnson interview. She explained how it worked in her clinic very clearly:

A company asks for particular specimens, quoting the price they'll pay per...50 dollars, 75 dollars, 200 dollars...It depended on what they sought. The "counselors" at the abortion mill would then try to solicit consent to donate tissue from the patients. In most cases, the counselors were given monetary rewards ranging from 5 dollars to 20 dollars per consent, depending on what the buyer was paying for the specimen.

In addition to that, the buyer supplied the shipping materials, ice, etc...So the abortions would be done all day, with the collected specimens put in individual bags in the freezer. At the end of the day, the specimens would go into ONE box and be shipped. Johnson said it cost about 14 dollars to ship that box. Sometimes the buyer would send an employee to pick it up themselves. Everything else was profit. She says that her clinic sometimes profited as much as 120 thousand dollars in a month from selling specimens.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/10/f...irector-explains-the-tissue-donation-process/

As for Carson, who knows.....maybe he's "evolved" on the issue. Then again maybe he couldn't care less what's going on at PP. His opinion, one way or the other, doesn't change what's going on.

The very best things that are coming out of these videos are that A)people who dare to watch them are seeing the little arms and legs and heads of these innocent victims. Abortions are no longer so easily sanitized to a "choice".
B)girls and women are seeing a whole other side to those seemingly compassionate and gentle folks in the clinics that pretend to care. And C)there is a greater prayer effort being extended for those workers and their conversion.

Death is censored. How many car accidents victims , war dead, terminal patients in the throes of death are we exposed to ? Even lifesaving surgeries are unpleasant things to see.

If someone has made the decision to have an abortion then anything after that is inconsequential. That tissue either goes to research or the garbage pile at the dump. If people are paid extra to make sure it goes to research then we are really talking about nothing more than a recycling fee paid to PP to put it to a better use.

 

[Dawg]

So you want to kill off the future Ben Carsons of the world ? I am sure he'd love to see the kinds of feelings about Blacks his supporters have.

Sanger and Hillary wish that and here you low life MF'er, proves you're a LIAR:

Dr. Ben Carson
I wanted to use our time tonight to directly deal with an attack launched on me today by the left and the media. A couple questions came in on this subject, so... I want to address it head on.
Today I was accused by the press as having done research on fetal tissue. It simply is not true. The study they distributed by an anonymous source was done in 1992. The study was about tumors. I won’t bore you with the science. There were four doctors' names on the study. One was mine. I spent my life studying brain tumors and removing them. My only involvement in this study was supplying tumors that I had removed from my patients. Those tissue samples were compared to other tissue samples under a microscope. Pathologists do this work to gain clues about tumors.
I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study.
I am sickened by the attack that I, after having spent my entire life caring for children, had something to do with aborting a child and harvesting organs. My medical specialty is the human brain and even I am amazed at what it is capable of doing. Please know these attacks are pathetic attempts to blunt our progress.
Now lets get to answering your questions.
Nancy in Arkansas wants to know how my mother is doing.
Nancy, you know my mother is the only reason I stand here today. I surely would have been lost if it were not for her. She is an amazing woman. If she were the Secretary of Treasury, I assure you we would have a surplus. My mother was very ill when I announced my candidacy. The family was called in by her doctors. We surrounded her and prayed as did millions of you. She began to eat again. She has her strength back. She is doing as well as we can expect. Thank you for asking.
The next question is from Bill. He wanted to know if it was true that I was offered a slot at West Point after high school.
Bill, that is true. I was the highest student ROTC member in Detroit and was thrilled to get an offer from West Point. But I knew medicine is what I wanted to do. So I applied to only one school. (it was all the money I had). I applied to Yale and thank God they accepted me. I often wonder what might have happened had they said no.
Last question as it is getting late. A young nurse in Ohio wants to know how many patients did I treat during my career.
I treated over 15,000 patients in some 57 countries. We lived in Australia for a while as well. One of the most gratifying moments of each day is when I run into a former patient like I did tonight. My patients were all quite ill. I love seeing them with their families living normal lives. I think it is more gratifying than serving in Congress.
Speaking of serving in Congress. I constantly get asked how could I possibly become President when I have no political experience. Here is what I say. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,788 years of political experience. How is that working out? People forget that of our 56 founding fathers who risked it all to sign the Declaration of Independence, Five were Doctors.
Good night,
Ben

 

[gigi]

Death is censored. How many car accidents victims , war dead, terminal patients in the throes of death are we exposed to ? Even lifesaving surgeries are unpleasant things to see.

If someone has made the decision to have an abortion then anything after that is inconsequential. That tissue either goes to research or the garbage pile at the dump. If people are paid extra to make sure it goes to research then we are really talking about nothing more than a recycling fee paid to PP to put it to a better use.

Abortion isn't merely an unpleasant thing to see. It's deliberate killing. Much like war is. The only small difference is that soldiers, through their own personal courage, get to choose to serve with the knowledge that they may go into harms way. And even then, every possible effort, from strategy planning to personal equipment is made to help them avoid making the ultimate sacrifice. Yet, the key word here is "sacrifice". The not yet born have no choice. They're defenseless and killed.

I thank you for mentioning the fact that the aborted human beings end up either in some lab, or in the garbage. It's the truth. But the law states that human organs, tissue, and human remains cannot be sold for profit. And it's sure looking like that's what PP has been doing. You can argue all you like about whether or not that law is just. But right now, it's the law.

NO additional workers are needed at PP for the culling of fetal remains.

There is no different procedure required in their onsite lab other than putting the pieces of their victims into bags to be frozen instead of in the medwaste box or down the garbage disposal.

And nowhere on those videos is any PP employee talking about "this is what it would cost us to obtain those specimens for you." Nope. But there is plenty of footage of the abortionists talking about getting a comparable price, and checking into what other places are getting.

In addition, stem cell procurement agencies have advertised that financial benefits and handsome compensation to "your" clinic are perks of doing business with them. And these are companies that PP has done business with.

 

[Spamature]

damn shame ya baby momma did abort you.............

Did you pull the cork on that jug this evening ? Not sure what you are rambling about.

 

[BobbyT]

You might want to watch the latest video. The tech who gives the interview explains how people from her company and people from PP were given $ incentives to collect specimen.

And, you might want to read the Abby Johnson interview. She explained how it worked in her clinic very clearly:

A company asks for particular specimens, quoting the price they'll pay per...50 dollars, 75 dollars, 200 dollars...It depended on what they sought. The "counselors" at the abortion mill would then try to solicit consent to donate tissue from the patients. In most cases, the counselors were given monetary rewards ranging from 5 dollars to 20 dollars per consent, depending on what the buyer was paying for the specimen.

In addition to that, the buyer supplied the shipping materials, ice, etc...So the abortions would be done all day, with the collected specimens put in individual bags in the freezer. At the end of the day, the specimens would go into ONE box and be shipped. Johnson said it cost about 14 dollars to ship that box. Sometimes the buyer would send an employee to pick it up themselves. Everything else was profit. She says that her clinic sometimes profited as much as 120 thousand dollars in a month from selling specimens.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/10/f...irector-explains-the-tissue-donation-process/

As for Carson, who knows.....maybe he's "evolved" on the issue. Then again maybe he couldn't care less what's going on at PP. His opinion, one way or the other, doesn't change what's going on.

The very best things that are coming out of these videos are that A)people who dare to watch them are seeing the little arms and legs and heads of these innocent victims. Abortions are no longer so easily sanitized to a "choice".
B)girls and women are seeing a whole other side to those seemingly compassionate and gentle folks in the clinics that pretend to care. And C)there is a greater prayer effort being extended for those workers and their conversion.

Selling fetal tissue for profit is illegal. If someone in PP has done something illegal, I am sure they will be hounded in court until the 12th of never by the anti-choice crowd. Especially if they have admitted it on tape.

Carson hasn't evolved on the issue. He still thinks it's right and necessary to do medical research on fetal tissue. He said specifically he doesn't think fetal tissue research should be banned nor is it immoral. The only thing he has "evolved" on is taking up the anti-PP bandwagon. He has no problem with using fetal tissue in research.

If anyone didn't think a developing fetus had arms and legs, they were deliberately ignorant. Bottom line (for me) is that a woman should have the right to choose whether she wants to carry a pregnancy to term. It's no one else's business. If abortion is illegal everywhere, abortions will continue. At a much higher health cost to women.

 

[BobbyT]

Sanger and Hillary wish that and here you low life MF'er, proves you're a LIAR:

Dr. Ben Carson
I wanted to use our time tonight to directly deal with an attack launched on me today by the left and the media. A couple questions came in on this subject, so... I want to address it head on.
Today I was accused by the press as having done research on fetal tissue. It simply is not true. The study they distributed by an anonymous source was done in 1992. The study was about tumors. I won’t bore you with the science. There were four doctors' names on the study. One was mine. I spent my life studying brain tumors and removing them. My only involvement in this study was supplying tumors that I had removed from my patients. Those tissue samples were compared to other tissue samples under a microscope. Pathologists do this work to gain clues about tumors.
I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study.
I am sickened by the attack that I, after having spent my entire life caring for children, had something to do with aborting a child and harvesting organs. My medical specialty is the human brain and even I am amazed at what it is capable of doing. Please know these attacks are pathetic attempts to blunt our progress.
Now lets get to answering your questions.
Nancy in Arkansas wants to know how my mother is doing.
Nancy, you know my mother is the only reason I stand here today. I surely would have been lost if it were not for her. She is an amazing woman. If she were the Secretary of Treasury, I assure you we would have a surplus. My mother was very ill when I announced my candidacy. The family was called in by her doctors. We surrounded her and prayed as did millions of you. She began to eat again. She has her strength back. She is doing as well as we can expect. Thank you for asking.
The next question is from Bill. He wanted to know if it was true that I was offered a slot at West Point after high school.
Bill, that is true. I was the highest student ROTC member in Detroit and was thrilled to get an offer from West Point. But I knew medicine is what I wanted to do. So I applied to only one school. (it was all the money I had). I applied to Yale and thank God they accepted me. I often wonder what might have happened had they said no.
Last question as it is getting late. A young nurse in Ohio wants to know how many patients did I treat during my career.
I treated over 15,000 patients in some 57 countries. We lived in Australia for a while as well. One of the most gratifying moments of each day is when I run into a former patient like I did tonight. My patients were all quite ill. I love seeing them with their families living normal lives. I think it is more gratifying than serving in Congress.
Speaking of serving in Congress. I constantly get asked how could I possibly become President when I have no political experience. Here is what I say. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,788 years of political experience. How is that working out? People forget that of our 56 founding fathers who risked it all to sign the Declaration of Independence, Five were Doctors.
Good night,
Ben

Benny can't seem to keep his stories straight. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-no-apologies-for-1992-fetal-tissue-research/

 

[Spamature]

Sanger and Hillary wish that and here you low life MF'er, proves you're a LIAR:

Dr. Ben Carson
I wanted to use our time tonight to directly deal with an attack launched on me today by the left and the media. A couple questions came in on this subject, so... I want to address it head on.
Today I was accused by the press as having done research on fetal tissue. It simply is not true. The study they distributed by an anonymous source was done in 1992. The study was about tumors. I won’t bore you with the science. There were four doctors' names on the study. One was mine. I spent my life studying brain tumors and removing them. My only involvement in this study was supplying tumors that I had removed from my patients. Those tissue samples were compared to other tissue samples under a microscope. Pathologists do this work to gain clues about tumors.
I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study.
I am sickened by the attack that I, after having spent my entire life caring for children, had something to do with aborting a child and harvesting organs. My medical specialty is the human brain and even I am amazed at what it is capable of doing. Please know these attacks are pathetic attempts to blunt our progress.
Now lets get to answering your questions.
Nancy in Arkansas wants to know how my mother is doing.
Nancy, you know my mother is the only reason I stand here today. I surely would have been lost if it were not for her. She is an amazing woman. If she were the Secretary of Treasury, I assure you we would have a surplus. My mother was very ill when I announced my candidacy. The family was called in by her doctors. We surrounded her and prayed as did millions of you. She began to eat again. She has her strength back. She is doing as well as we can expect. Thank you for asking.
The next question is from Bill. He wanted to know if it was true that I was offered a slot at West Point after high school.
Bill, that is true. I was the highest student ROTC member in Detroit and was thrilled to get an offer from West Point. But I knew medicine is what I wanted to do. So I applied to only one school. (it was all the money I had). I applied to Yale and thank God they accepted me. I often wonder what might have happened had they said no.
Last question as it is getting late. A young nurse in Ohio wants to know how many patients did I treat during my career.
I treated over 15,000 patients in some 57 countries. We lived in Australia for a while as well. One of the most gratifying moments of each day is when I run into a former patient like I did tonight. My patients were all quite ill. I love seeing them with their families living normal lives. I think it is more gratifying than serving in Congress.
Speaking of serving in Congress. I constantly get asked how could I possibly become President when I have no political experience. Here is what I say. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,788 years of political experience. How is that working out? People forget that of our 56 founding fathers who risked it all to sign the Declaration of Independence, Five were Doctors.
Good night,
Ben

Sanger and Hillary and YOU wish that about Blacks according to your ranting. You just posted that you wanted to see all Blacks babies aborted.

Don't try to lie your way out of this one. It's there for all to see.

 

[resident_evil]

The GOP is lucky to have TrumZilla. He distracts from the total hypocrisy of the other candidates.


according to Dr. Jen Gunter, an OB-GYN and pain medicine physician, the Republican presidential candidate published a study with three other colleagues in 1992 that described using “human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”


She wrote on her blog:


As a neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson knows full well that fetal tissue is essential for medical research. His discipline would have a hard time being [where] it is today without that kind of work. What is even more egregious than dismissing the multitude of researchers whose work allowed him to become a neurosurgeon is the hypocrisy of actually having done that research himself while spouting off about its supposed worthlessness.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-aborted-fetal-tissue_55cc920ce4b0898c48869108

Let me give you an analogy that you might understand. Planned Parenthood takes life with the same sense of the sanctity of (human) life that Dr. Walter Palmer had when taking Cecil the lion in Zimbabwe. Dr. Carson used banked tissue with the same sense of sanctity that indigenous people have when taking whale or seal.

 

[gigi]

Selling fetal tissue for profit is illegal. If someone in PP has done something illegal, I am sure they will be hounded in court until the 12th of never by the anti-choice crowd. Especially if they have admitted it on tape.

Carson hasn't evolved on the issue. He still thinks it's right and necessary to do medical research on fetal tissue. He said specifically he doesn't think fetal tissue research should be banned nor is it immoral. The only thing he has "evolved" on is taking up the anti-PP bandwagon. He has no problem with using fetal tissue in research.

If anyone didn't think a developing fetus had arms and legs, they were deliberately ignorant. Bottom line (for me) is that a woman should have the right to choose whether she wants to carry a pregnancy to term. It's no one else's business. If abortion is illegal everywhere, abortions will continue. At a much higher health cost to women.

I was just reading something Dawg had posted from Ben Carson. And if what Carson says is true, then no, he hasn't taken part of this. But honestly, I'm not sidetracked with Ben Carson. I'm a bit amused by the fact that people who claim that PP has done nothing wrong are trying to make Ben Carson a villian for allgedly doing this thing they said wasn't wrong in the first place!!

Not knowing gestational developmental stages is not about deliberate ignorance, Bobby. When I was a teenager in the 70s, PP was telling the story that up til 3 months all that existed was a 'bag" and some cells that, after the third month, would begin developing into a baby.

LiveAction has video of PP and other abortion mill workers LYING to questions put to them by people they thought were abortion clients about whether their babies had arms, legs, a heart. Here are just two examples of how the folks at PP, the very people so many want to call upon to give our kids "quality" sex ed, lie and misinform so readily. So don't go calling girls and women who don't know the answers to these questions "deliberately ignorant." They're told to go see these "experts" for their sexual health and family planning needs. And these "experts" lie.

http://liveaction.org/rosaacuna/indianapolis-in-the-rosa-acuna-project/

http://liveaction.org/rosaacuna/milwaukee-wi-the-rosa-acuna-project/

As far as a much higher health cost to women, I read something today that was interesting. In the 1940s, about 1300 women per year died of abortion related and maternal injuries. By 1966, while abortion was still illegal, that number dropped to about 140. The number didn't decrease because abortion was made legal by Roe. That decision was still years away. The number decreased because of advances in medicine. In parts of our Country where there are restrictions and waiting periods on abortion, the maternal injury or death rate has not increased, but the abortion rate has decreased.

These days, unlike the forties and the sixties and even the seventies, women are not likely to be driven to seek illegal abortions because they fear being fired, ostracized by society, or evicted because they're pregnant. We've come a bit of a long way. We've got laws that protect us against such discrimination.