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Guilty until proven innocent be it people or countries

Boltlady

Boltlady

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It seems like its doesn't matter whether something has just happened or we just found out about it, guilt is immediately assumed to be known. That's what is happening right now with Iran. While they may be behind the Hamas actions they also might not be. It has just been automatically assumed. If they're not, how many Iranian people will have to die or be seriously maimed before that is actually answered beyond assumptions?

That type of thing seems to be very common these days. People don't have the patience to wait for what's really happening to be found out.
 
Boltlady said:
It seems like its doesn't matter whether something has just happened or we just found out about it, guilt is immediately assumed to be known. That's what is happening right now with Iran. While they may be behind the Hamas actions they also might not be. It has just been automatically assumed. If they're not, how many Iranian people will have to die or be seriously maimed before that is actually answered beyond assumptions?

That type of thing seems to be very common these days. People don't have the patience to wait for what's really happening to be found out.
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Hamas Says Attacks on Israel Were Backed by Iran (wsj.com)

I think it's pretty clear :(
 
Boltlady said:
Maybe so. It still seems pretty convenient tying in with the general consensus, It might not have been said by official spokesmen. It just seems awfully soon to be sure.
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You could be right. These days, who knows if what we are being fed is the truth or not. I'm not going to pretend to be a foreign policy expert. What I do know though, is that every time we end up in a conflict in the Middle East, Iran always seems to be doing something behind the scenes.
 
Colorforms said:
You could be right. These days, who knows if what we are being fed is the truth or not. I'm not going to pretend to be a foreign policy expert. What I do know though, is that every time we end up in a conflict in the Middle East, Iran always seems to be doing something behind the scenes.
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About 9 or 10 years ago on this forum we spent a lot of time discussing the Middle East. There were a couple of folks who had a lot of familiarity with it. I archived a lot of articles about it but my failing eyesight doesn't allow me to search things (even my own records), like I used to. There are a lot of things that I could tell you about the actors in this play but for some reason we aren't allowed to just talk about things we've learned through the years. We're supposed to cut and paste links or articles that "verify" what we're saying. The irony is that if it's a really big picture it can take a lot of sources put together to 'see' it.

That's an example of our times. Everything is supposed to be confined to boxes.
 
Boltlady said:
It seems like its doesn't matter whether something has just happened or we just found out about it, guilt is immediately assumed to be known. That's what is happening right now with Iran. While they may be behind the Hamas actions they also might not be. It has just been automatically assumed. If they're not, how many Iranian people will have to die or be seriously maimed before that is actually answered beyond assumptions?

That type of thing seems to be very common these days. People don't have the patience to wait for what's really happening to be found out.
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Iran admits they were involved
Biden Administration On Notice After Bombshell Report on Iran-Israel (msn.com)
 
Boltlady said:
About 9 or 10 years ago on this forum we spent a lot of time discussing the Middle East. There were a couple of folks who had a lot of familiarity with it. I archived a lot of articles about it but my failing eyesight doesn't allow me to search things (even my own records), like I used to. There are a lot of things that I could tell you about the actors in this play but for some reason we aren't allowed to just talk about things we've learned through the years. We're supposed to cut and paste links or articles that "verify" what we're saying. The irony is that if it's a really big picture it can take a lot of sources put together to 'see' it.

That's an example of our times. Everything is supposed to be confined to boxes.
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I agree with you that it's rare that we get the whole picture. We don't seem to get anything in context anymore. I think it's dumbing us down as a society. If we can't get it on a bumper sticker then we're not interested.
 
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