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Gun control media fear mongering.

There is no law which grants any person the right to carry a weapon onto someone else's private property.
 
GordonGecko said:
Interesting dilemma for a conservative to be put in....do they favor superceding individual property rights in this case?
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While I am not a conservative, I would never supercede individual property rights. Personally I would love to see all officers of the law disarmed until they need a weapon. However, that is neither here nor there.


This article and incident highlights how our bias media, from both a conservative and liberal standpoint, does nothing but induce fear over issues that can be resolved without the fear tactic put in place. There is no more reason to fear a gun than there is to fear a muslim. It's assanine how much the media tailors to that fear to promote their agenda.
 
afella said:
While I am not a conservative, I would never supercede individual property rights. Personally I would love to see all officers of the law disarmed until they need a weapon. However, that is neither here nor there.


This article and incident highlights how our bias media, from both a conservative and liberal standpoint, does nothing but induce fear over issues that can be resolved without the fear tactic put in place. There is no more reason to fear a gun than there is to fear a muslim. It's assanine how much the media tailors to that fear to promote their agenda.
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"There is no more reason to fear a gun than there is to fear a muslim."

Depends on where you are.
 
Sacrebleu!

A Denny's employee gets confused over their policy regarding police officers and their guns, and it's an indictment of the media?

Unfluckingbelievable.
 
fxstc said:
"There is no more reason to fear a gun than there is to fear a muslim."

Depends on where you are.
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Not particularely. I never feared muslims while I was in Iraq, I didn't really fear much of anything after the first couple of miles on the road. You just come to accept that things happen and you really can't control them, no matter how hard you want to.
 
Cerulean Mutt said:
Sacrebleu!

A Denny's employee gets confused over their policy regarding police officers and their guns, and it's an indictment of the media?

Unfluckingbelievable.
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A customer who saw a gun got scared. Didn't care to see if it was an officer. However, yes it is an indictment of the media. The media tailors to a specific base and sponsorship, they will use each sides fears in their stories and representation of a story until they are called out on it. If you are objective and do not tailor to a party line finding the facts is a relatively easy thing to do, however if you tailor to a party line the content the media projects to you is acceptable and true. This applies to both fox and all other MSM sources.
 
afella said:
This article and incident highlights how our bias media, from both a conservative and liberal standpoint, does nothing but induce fear over issues that can be resolved without the fear tactic put in place. There is no more reason to fear a gun than there is to fear a muslim. It's assanine how much the media tailors to that fear to promote their agenda.
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What about the media that tailors fear about "all guns being banned" and gets people to rush out to gun stores to "stock up"???
 
GordonGecko said:
What about the media that tailors fear about "all guns being banned" and gets people to rush out to gun stores to "stock up"???
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It's just absurd as those media sources that talk about EXTREME gun control. There will be some sort of gun control passed in the near future, it will not be the feinstein bill or a reenactment of the 1994 assault weapons ban. It will have to boil down to a resonable debate that BOTH sides will not be happy with, it goes by a generic term of compromise. I won't be happy I'm sure when it gets done, but it will still be reasonable (just not by my terms). Both sides of the media are providing sources of fear to tailor to their base, it's about ratings not reasonable reporting, nonpartisan observations. People tend to let their emotions get way to involved.
 
So, let me get this straight.

A nut in a mask bradishing multiple semi automatic weapons (which he got through the internet) goes into a movie theatre and kills a bunch of people.

A nut walks into a school and kills dozens of children and teachers.

And it's the media's fault???????????????????????
 
I can't carry into a courtroom or school.. but I can carry into a business unless it is posted by owner.
That's what freedom is all about. People who don't like freedom should move to Cuba.

Remember, in each case a gun law was in force in the school shootings .. criminals do not follow laws. When and where ever guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns.
 
I call bullshit on that one.

How in hell do you know why the customer was scared? Do you know them personally? You're just making an assumption that it was media driven fear because that fits nicely into the narrative you're pushing.

And another thing, what do you want the media to do when there's a mass shooting like this? Ignore it? Do you want the government to dictate to the media how much or what coverage is appropriate?
 
TomFitz said:
So, let me get this straight.

A nut in a mask bradishing multiple semi automatic weapons (which he got through the internet) goes into a movie theatre and kills a bunch of people.

A nut walks into a school and kills dozens of children and teachers.

And it's the media's fault???????????????????????
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That's new to me that I blamed the media for violet attacks taken by deranged individuals. I blame the media for promoting fear to further their political agenda in favor of the party they choose to represent. I see NO difference between Fox and MSNBC.



My personal opinion: Murders, and in particular mass shootings, are a VERY small part of our society. While they no doubt affect people, they also represent something that happens so infrequently in our society that there is not that large of a need for gun control. I do not advocate these killings, but I do advocate freedom and in particular freedom from government in virtually any way shape or form. That being said, I understand that there is a need for some sort of gun control, due to others who have an opinion other than mine. That's why it has to be reasonable and relatively acceptable by both sides.
 
No difference between Fox and MSNBC????...Fox is 24/7 Bull$hit....How is that for a difference
 
There is no law that says that I must post a sign on my front door in order for you not to walk into my house with a weapon.

And there never will be.

Not as long as this is a free country.
 
Cerulean Mutt said:
I call bullshit on that one.

How in hell do you know why the customer was scared? Do you know them personally? You're just making an assumption that it was media driven fear because that fits nicely into the narrative you're pushing.

And another thing, what do you want the media to do when there's a mass shooting like this? Ignore it? Do you want the government to dictate to the media how much or what coverage is appropriate?
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My agenda being what? Showing that both democrats and republicans are capable of, and generally do, consent to using fear as a tactic to further their agendas on a daily basis through the media. I'll give them some credit every once and a while they get something right, like lindsey lohan being arrested.


My issue with the MSM sources is they typically get it wrong, and it induces fear. "The suspect had body armor", "The suspect used a automatic military weapons", "LA gun buyback nabs rocket launchers" (which were COMPLETELY useless launchers considering their design of being one time use weapons). It induces a state of fear on the general public. While the truth is there is almost one gun per person in this country and very few are used for criminal means. The rocket launcher one really burned me up, an expended AT-4 is not even a good door stop, it isn't heavy enough, and can do nothing after it's been used.
 
Saladin2 said:
No difference between Fox and MSNBC????...Fox is 24/7 Bull$hit....How is that for a difference
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As is MSNBC, you however agree with everything MSNBC says so you would not be objective of the opinions expressed on the station. I agree that Fox is BS though.
 
So, you don't know the scared customer or what her motivation was in complaining about the gun to the Denny's hostess?

Why didn't you just say so?
 
I do.

Fox News was founded on fear mongering and division. It's all they know to do.

Every crackpot scare campaign from duct tape, to vaccinations, to fear of the black man in the White House is promoted full throat by Fox Noise.

MSNBC promotes its agenda too, but they don't use fear tactics. They can make their case with facts.

I don't watch MSNBC all the time. And I don't do it so that they can tell me why I need to fear the GOP. By the time Rachel Maddow reads her script on MSNBC, I ususally know what's in the story, as does much of her audience. And she knows it. Her audience is the informed electorate. Fox caters to the other variety, as we know from the research.
 
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