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GordonGecko said:
One thing you nailed, Gramps....

even the Gun Right themselves cannot give any reason for their desire for massive self-arming....

but one based on fear.
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Sad thing for the like of you and grumps here, geeko, no one has any reason to even try to give you any reason they might have a desire to massively self-arm.

Sad fact of the matter is that, in spite of all your libby fears, in spite of all your dim cries and howls, some will chose to use their rights as they are granted with little to NO attention paid to those of you who seek to control the rights of everyone.

Get over it or die with it, strictly your call, skippy.
 
GordonGecko said:
One thing you nailed, Gramps....

even the Gun Right themselves cannot give any reason for their desire for massive self-arming....

but one based on fear.
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Do you require everyone you know to give you a "reason" for having their civil rights? I knew you had a fascist bent, but that seems out of order even for you...
 
Gramps said:
I finally reached a conclusion of what spawns the controversy.

Gun advocates have a need to own and keep guns as an edge against other people who own and keep guns. Under normal circumstances unarmed people are not to be feared while under normal circumstances those who are armed are to be feared.

So, that being the case those who say the problem is people and not guns err because by removi8ng the guns from the controversy there is no controversy.

Evidently fear is what motivates lots of gun lovers to arm themselves to their teeth. So, perhaps, it is neither guns nor people that fan the flames. Emotion must be the source. FDR's four freedoms included "freedom from fear" for Americans at a time when those fears were brought about by foreign powers threatening our lifestyle and NOW we arm ourselves as protection from fellow citizens.

Last year I disposed of my weapons. It was time. I hadn't used one of them in years, just something to take out of the cabinet and clean and oil now and again; having become conversation pieces. And d'ya know what? I haven't spent a single restless night fretting because I have no weapons at hand.

gramps
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So what did you do with your gun(s)?
 
UPNYA2 said:
Poor, poor ziggy, tell you what buddy, whenever I want to see some sh-t outta you I will just squeeze your head, 'K, skippy?

But.......... if you MUST know, just about 5 post above this one 'ol hoar in fact DID say just THAT, and I quote, "For the 10,478th time the NRA calls me all the time telling me---"

Also, perhaps you would do well to avoid trying to put down others for not being "capable of writing a paragraph without a glaring straw man at the beginning of every dishonest rant", when addressing a response to a statement like, ""For the 11,547 TIME! : We want the NRA and all those promoting KILLING PEOPLE WITH GUNS to STOP pushing so aggressively that we need more guns and that people are taking away guns.", as I was doing.

Unless of course YOU would be willing to do as I asked your friend hoar here to do, provide me with ANYTHING that shows me the NRA is actually, "promoting "KILLING PEOPLE WITH GUNS" as was STATED i mean...........
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What is your theory about what they are promoting when they make up phony statistics to scare people into arming themselves against phony threats and encourage everyone to carry a gun everywhere they go? Can you give me the alternate use for a firearm in a school or a church? Why don't they just accept the "price of freedom" that they figure is ok for the parents of dead little kids to swallow?
 
zzigzzag said:
Was "disposed of them" a language you don't speak?
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I'm so sorry your lack of education has so limited your ability to engage in discourse. I wish your parents had thought more of you than they did...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dispose

dis·pose verb \di-ˈspōz\
: to cause (someone) to be likely to do or have something
: to put (someone or something) in a particular position or place
dis·posed dis·pos·ing

Full Definition of DISPOSE
transitive verb
1
: to give a tendency to : incline <faulty diet disposes one to sickness>
2
a: to put in place : set in readiness : arrange <disposing troops for withdrawal>
bobsolete: regulate c: bestow
intransitive verb
1
: to settle a matter finally
2
obsolete: to come to terms
— dis·pos·ernoun
— dispose of
1
: to place, distribute, or arrange especially in an orderly way
2
a: to transfer to the control of another <disposing of personal property to a total stranger>
b (1): to get rid of <how to dispose of toxic waste> (2): to deal with conclusively <disposed of the matter efficiently>
 
NinaS said:
That's bullshit Dawg. I can cite two cases that happened just recently when people were shot NOT committing home invasions. One was the teenager who knocked on someone's door to get help after a car accident and got shot in the face and the other one was the old man with Alzheimer's who was wandering in someone's yard and instead of waiting until the police the lady of the house had called the 32 yr old guy opened the door and shot the old guy in the chest 3 times. Do you think that was wise?? Shit happens like that all the time not even counting the little kids who die from gunshot wounds when playing with daddy's arsenal.
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and it's you that claim I follow you around here........hypocrisy much☻
 
marvin martian said:
You would be hard pressed to find a single PJ lib willing to admit they are aware of any homicide with a firearm that took place in Chicago...
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'O' they can't admit that due to their Community Organizer from the windy city......of course thugs aren't murdering thugs in the blessed city of 'O', he made sure before going to DC there was 'HOPE & CHANGE' in the sewer known as Chicago√
 
Dawg said:
'O' they can't admit that due to their Community Organizer from the windy city......of course thugs aren't murdering thugs in the blessed city of 'O', he made sure before going to DC there was 'HOPE & CHANGE' in the sewer known as Chicago√
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Way nicer than some backwater shit hole in MS, TN or other godforsaken place full of racist [Unwelcome language removed] with the intelligence of [Unwelcome language removed] turnips.

So there's that
 
UPNYA2 said:
Got it.

Only the rights that you libs are afraid of should be denied to everyone.



If you ever DO decide to crawl out from under the covers of your bed though, you might look into this old saying about the pen being mightier than the sword.........

It COULD make for an interesting read for you if you ever need to discuss ALL of our rights one day.


Then AGAIN.......... It COULD also send you shivering back into the shadows to suck your thumb and tremble at the notion there are people out ther whom you are not allowed to control too.........so maybe not.

You just stick with your one fear, 'k, sweetie?
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You gun freaks are the ones who need to get under the covers to control your fears of whatever or whomever you think is going to "get you". If I were as big as c oward as you try to portray me as, I'd have a stash of guns as well. You con's lust for being able to kill and get by with it will maybe come back to haunt you one day if it happens to one of yours.
 
NinaS said:
You gun freaks are the ones who need to get under the covers to control your fears of whatever or whomever you think is going to "get you". If I were as big as c oward as you try to portray me as, I'd have a stash of guns as well. You con's lust for being able to kill and get by with it will maybe come back to haunt you one day if it happens to one of yours.
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http://www.westernjournalism.com/buckshot-patty/

good thing that little girl is safe..............no☻
 
marvin martian said:
Keep wondering. Your cluelessness, bigotry and ignorance is an ongoing source of amusement for me...
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Actually I don't wonder why...I KNOW why. You're scared to live without them.
Pathetic. And BTW nobody is even trying to take them away from you, just make some laws that prevents people from having and using weapons made only for killing others.
 
I must have missed the part where he said he wanted everyone's guns taken from them. Don't think anyone suggested removing words from the dialogue, either.

You guys can usually manage a tie in a debate with a straw man.
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That's their only defense. Their stupid FEAR that someone is going to take away all their friggen guns.
 
NinaS said:
Actually I don't wonder why...I KNOW why. You're scared to live without them.
Pathetic. And BTW nobody is even trying to take them away from you, just make some laws that prevents people from having and using weapons made only for killing others.
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Really? :rolleyes: Nobody is trying to take them, you just want laws that prevent us from having them? Seriously?:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Why don't you start by disarming Law Enforcement? They are public servants, after all, and they are obliged to at least listen to you as a member of the public, (unlike the rest of us). Explain that they don't need to be carrying "weapons that are made only for killing others", and that they should set an example. We can use them as test subjects, and after a couple years of watching how that works out for them, then we can finally dispose of this entire, nonsensical, argument.
 
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