wookie-leeks
Mayor
I wish Easy E was still alive to tell the angry pink menace what time it is. I extend the number one salute to the liberals.
Merry Mofoing X Mas.
Merry Mofoing X Mas.
Guns!
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Gramps
Mayor
Newspapers are declining, IMHO, because they've evolved into a commercial advertiser; customers paying to read paid for advertisements. Where's the beef that readers are looking for?
gramps
I wish that were true. It would mean there was a reliable advertising base for newspapers to use for income. In reality, many businesses now avoid newspaper advertising in favor of web content, and few people are willing to pay money to place a classified when they can use Craigs List or backpage for free.
And it becomes a vicious cycle. Because ad revenues are down, newsroom staff gets reduced, which means that there is little "beef," and consequently readers turn away from the paper. Lower circulation means the paper can't charge as much for its ads (it has fewer people to offer to its advertisers), and so it has to cut its budget to remain profitable -- and the big, non-revenue-producing expense on a newspaper is newsroom staff.
Some of us just might find the idea of the gun totin' Christmas (you know...the celebration of the birth of the Prince of Peace) Card folks a bit askew with the general seasonal message of Peace On Earth and Goodwill Towards Men.
Yeah, Craig, those with no sense of humor or irony might be that way.
Ben Arnold
Council Member
For your viewing pleasure..
Pretty funny.
Differing senses of humor. It's stupid to claim others humorless when they fail to share our exact humor, but it doesn't stop folks from making the claim.
For example, I don't find the Three Stooges remotely funny, never have, but many seem to find them uncontrollably hysterical. But I find George Carlin funny. Louis CK...David Sedaris...because they play word games and use cultural references instead of physical comedy.
Yes, some irony is involved as your gun totin' families arm themselves to the teeth in celebration of peace on earth. Peace through strength, screw that swords into ploughshares silliness. Irony.
I like Carlin. I'm not as wild about Louis CK (although he was very funny in an interview I heard with Terry Gross on NPR last year). I don't find Sedaris funny (different strokes, as you say).
And being armed doesn't signify a hatred of peace -- it is merely that if you want peace you must be prepared for war.
Zoar
Governor
Yes the Righties are so Hypocritical they do not see their own blatant hypocricy and instead they see "humor". Sick humor.
I found it here: http://livebyquotes.com/2013/those-...-up-plowing-for-those-who-didnt-ben-franklin/ but I can't testify to the reliability of that source.
He certainly did write, for the Philadelphia Assembly's reply to the governor, "They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," which is a similar concept. I'm not willing to give up my essential liberty (firearms) in the name of safety.
Yeah...I went looking for verification and found none.
Similar perhaps, but different enough to notice. We aren't in the plowshares quote concerning ourselves with temporary safety and any loss of liberty, but a wholly sustainable and peaceful community unburdened by the horror of war between nations. Clearly an absurd notion as the phrase is OT...and war between nations has been nearly constant in those 3000 or so years since.
I thought we were talking in both cases about whether it is better to be armed or not armed in a time of crisis. The latter statement, which is much better documented, would certainly indicate a bias in favor of being armed, or at least of the retention of individual rights even if that means an elevated risk.
Frequently, what I hear from the more elevated people on the side of the debate that favors more controls on firearms, is a safety-based argument. I reject that argument as safety can't be assured with or without firearms. Given that fact, I'd prefer to retain my right to own firearms, even if that entails a higher risk.
Believe me...each and every one of us knows your feelings on guns.
In the plowshares consideration, the swords are armaments for war between nations, not self defense from a local predator.
I disagree. Witness the 1946 Battle of Athens, Tenn.
