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Here we go again,.........................

Gramps

Mayor
taking a chance on war again..........

Why do I recall how Hitler justified his thrust to take over territory because, as he claimed, there were many who lived there that were of German roots?

And here we go again choosing up sides because the Ruskies are flexing their muscles half way across the world with a nation that was once their domain.

I think that of all the incidents that might've provoked a conflict no one can afford to undertake up until now this standoff could take the cake regarding the consequences.

I also think we would be wise to remain spectators for the time being while we try to determine where this might lead. Until I see Ukraine take a stand (physically as the Russians evidently did by invading Crimea) I see no reason to even offer an opinion. And even if it does blossom into a dreadful war we should keep in mind that it is a Asian/European squabble as regards its motives.

Turning back the clock to the Hitler days our continued support of allied nations after the shooting began didn't leave much room for determining where our choices lay so by offering Ukraine any aid now might tend to aggravate the situation rather than help.

I do not think the Russians are trustworthy over the long haul. And I doubt they trust us or any of our allies either. For the hawks this is a delightful powder keg some might love to ignite.

I say "let's cool it" for a spell. I know. The Europeans did appease Hitler and it was a mistake but this threat for something to start WWIII didn't begin recently. It's been ongoing for decades and we've managed to use negotiation rather that shooting to hold things in check.

Your views, please?

gramps


gramps
 
...I am sick of the US being the world police - we cannot afford it and honestly, it does not directly effect the US.

...if any US political leader wants to start a military adventure, I will gladly buy them a ticket to the Ukraine so they can personally lead any US troops into battle
 
Russia still has a major Naval Base in Crimea (imagine that a country having a Military installation outside it's borders)....So that is no surprise they sent in a contingent of troops to secure the area....The time is now for talk and cool heads....Ukraine's chaotic last few weeks has lead to no clear voice or government...Russia of course must flex it's muscles but an actual "invasion" is unlikely unless events spiral out of control, and the extremist voices on both sides are the only voices heard...That cannot be allowed to happen
 
I also think we would be wise to remain spectators for the time being while we try to determine where this might lead. Until I see Ukraine take a stand (physically as the Russians evidently did by invading Crimea) I see no reason to even offer an opinion. And even if it does blossom into a dreadful war we should keep in mind that it is a Asian/European squabble as regards its motives.


It's hyperbole to say that Russia "invaded" Crimea. The whole of Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union as recently as 1990, and they've maintained a military presence in Crimea without interruption. It isn't even shocking that they would send reinforcement troops to the area, since Crimea has had to host the exit of the Ukrainian government officials who were removed in response to the coup violent protests in Kiev.

Russia has more legitimate business in Ukraine than does the US. We need to support our European allies, but they need to take the lead in dealing with this hot mess.

That's my opinion.
 
Unfortunately for better or worse...NATO will follow America's lead....At the moment most of this is posturing and big talk....I think an invasion unlikely but with the Ukrainian government in a state of chaos Russia is prepared to step in if anarchy and mob rule prevails....America has a huge role to play as a honest broker between the two sides to prevent the situation from spiraling out of control...which would be to no ones benefit
 
Unfortunately for better or worse...NATO will follow America's lead....At the moment most of this is posturing and big talk....I think an invasion unlikely but with the Ukrainian government in a state of chaos Russia is prepared to step in if anarchy and mob rule prevails....America has a huge role to play as a honest broker between the two sides to prevent the situation from spiraling out of control...which would be to no ones benefit


I agree. It is a job for quiet diplomacy, not loud-mouthed talking head opinion mongers.
 
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