Here's to all our old wars...............

[Jen]

OR
Why I will never hold a grudge.

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[Mytzlplk]

I haved no problem holding grudges, and scoff at the notion if it is being suggested here, that you're somehow "better" for not -- not that I find that claim believable.

And besides, forgiveness always carries a price that those I have a grudge against aren't willing to pay.

So you keep living in your fantasy world Saint Jennifer.

 

[OldGaffer]

 

[Jen]

My post was telling everyone here that YOU (all of you) are important enough that you should treat yourself well and holding a grudge hurts you.
I certainly am not a Saint and I definitely don't deserve for you to let go of wrongs I've done to you over the years. But you don't deserve the harm that holding on to my wrongs (or anyone's wrongs) would do to you............and I don't wish you that kind of harm so I sent you that message.

And that's all I was saying.
No Saint at all Jennifer.

I haved no problem holding grudges, and scoff at the notion if it is being suggested here, that you're somehow "better" for not -- not that I find that claim believable.

And besides, forgiveness always carries a price that those I have a grudge against aren't willing to pay.

So you keep living in your fantasy world Saint Jennifer.

 

[Jen]

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perfect!!

 

[Union_Jack_1972]

I am a [Unwelcome language removed] and admit it with a smile on my face...

With that said I do not hold any grudges and those that hold a grudge over something said on a internet message board, well all I can do is say God Bless them...

If someone want to judge me for my words on here while not knowing me in real life, well God Bless them...

In the end if someone that read your thread, and still want to hold a grudge, well God Bless them...

Also no one should have to ask forgiveness from anyone on here... It is the individual choice to apologize and it is the other poster choice to accept it or not, but if someone wrote to me that they would demand more, well God Bless them because they will never get anything more than my apology and that is it...

God Bless Jen...

 

[Jen]

I don't remember anything bad you've done, Jack. far as I know you've always been angelic (bwahahaha). Well........none of us has been angelic........... but I don't remember the bad stuff you've done if you've done any bad stuff.

And I agree.............. I would never ask anyone here to apologize to me for anything. First, I've probably forgotten that they insulted me by the time they would get around to apologizing and second, any bad thing anyone has done to me was forgiven before they did it. I am thankful if I ever get an apology because I know it takes a lot to do that. But I don't watch for it, hope for it or need it in order to move on.............

Jen

I am a [Unwelcome language removed] and admit it with a smile on my face...

With that said I do not hold any grudges and those that hold a grudge over something said on a internet message board, well all I can do is say God Bless them...

If someone want to judge me for my words on here while not knowing me in real life, well God Bless them...

In the end if someone that read your thread, and still want to hold a grudge, well God Bless them...

Also no one should have to ask forgiveness from anyone on here... It is the individual choice to apologize and it is the other poster choice to accept it or not, but if someone wrote to me that they would demand more, well God Bless them because they will never get anything more than my apology and that is it...

God Bless Jen...

 

[Union_Jack_1972]

Hey, don't mock the Halo that is supported by my horns...

Have a great weekend...

 

[Union_Jack_1972]

So what's the price someone has to pay for your forgiveness of your grudge against them???

 

[Mytzlplk]

hurts/harms me how?

They may those who spend a lot of time and effort focusing on them, but otherwise they are just a reminder of who and what we don't like and why.

In that respect they are beneficial.

 

[Jen]

It was the general "you". And really, to say more would be beating a dead horse. It is what it is, I made the statement and now it's done........... Time to move on.

hurts/harms me how?

They may those who spend a lot of time and effort focusing on them, but otherwise they are just a reminder of who and what we don't like and why.

In that respect they are beneficial.

 

[Mytzlplk]

in other words, you can't explain how one is harmed by holding grudges?

It's the same old xtianity-based stuff about hating the sin, not the sinner, etc, stuff to me.

I don't and never will buy it. To me it's like fear -- only bad and harmful to those having it when it becomes irrational.

 

[Jen]

Mytzlplk. It can be and has been scientifically proven that hate/ anger/ bitterness harm the physical body. It has something to do with religion only if you want it to. The fact is that those sort of negative emotions when held on to............harm you. I'm sure you can find plenty of evidence if you choose to. There is no reason to harp on me about it. I merely told you about it. You can take it from there........or not. But really it's nothing to me either way.

in other words, you can't explain how one is harmed by holding grudges?

It's the same old xtianity-based stuff about hating the sin, not the sinner, etc, stuff to me.

I don't and never will buy it. To me it's like fear -- only bad and harmful to those having it when it becomes irrational.

 

[Mytzlplk]

like that's always the case, and the amount or frequency of experiencing negative emotions has no role in the negative health effects or lack thereof. They are healthy imo. http://personalgrowthmap.com/blog/2009/03/30/negative-emotions-are-healthy/ and only become otherwise when not dealt with properly and control you. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ressing-negative-emotions-add-years-life.html It's extremely doubtful that you can "tell" me anything about this or related issues that I haven't long known and understood, which is one reason why I challenged it. The second reason is what obviously motivated it.

By your own argument/standards here, you will no doubt be dying of a heart attack soon from ODS induced stress.

The simple fact of the matter is there is ONLY ONE reason for this top post -- in response to your recent experience with "grudges" manifesting themselves on this board, most notably between your old "pal" and yours truly.

It's also related to your signature as well, which has for some time been recognized as an admission that BHO controls you, even though it was no doubt motivated by a desire to let those who assault you verbally here that you scoff at all that, because you are in control. I see it as a phony facade used as a pretty obvious deterrent, kinda the way the little kid that skinned their knee yelling "Didn't HURT!!!through the tears.

Of course it's "something" to you, as evidenced by you top posting about it.

 

[Jen]

I'm glad you know all of those things about dealing with anger and bitterness, etc. And while I have responded to you here, this top post wasn't about you. It wasn't about anyone specific. And it certainly wasn't about me. I do not and have never carried anger and bitterness around with me. It's not in my genes to do that. So if I have a long-standing feud with anyone, it's one sided (with the other person feuding and me being unaware of it).

I've been here and on Slate long enough to have seen plenty of long-standing feuds. Anything going on between you and Jack, though, is news to me and seems to be something that just popped up in the past week or so...........that's about as long as I've been aware of it, so that wouldn't have come to mind at all as a "long standing feud" as I made this post. Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around you.

So, nope. This top post was NOT about me, or you, or Jack.

It was simply a reminder to those who tend to hold grudges. And holding a grudge is not one of those healthy expressions of anger as you, with all your knowledge, should know by now.

like that's always the case, and the amount or frequency of experiencing negative emotions has no role in the negative health effects or lack thereof. They are healthy imo. http://personalgrowthmap.com/blog/2009/03/30/negative-emotions-are-healthy/ and only become otherwise when not dealt with properly and control you. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ressing-negative-emotions-add-years-life.html It's extremely doubtful that you can "tell" me anything about this or related issues that I haven't long known and understood, which is one reason why I challenged it. The second reason is what obviously motivated it.

By your own argument/standards here, you will no doubt be dying of a heart attack soon from ODS induced stress.

The simple fact of the matter is there is ONLY ONE reason for this top post -- in response to your recent experience with "grudges" manifesting themselves on this board, most notably between your old "pal" and yours truly.

It's also related to your signature as well, which has for some time been recognized as an admission that BHO controls you, even though it was no doubt motivated by a desire to let those who assault you verbally here that you scoff at all that, because you are in control. I see it as a phony facade used as a pretty obvious deterrent, kinda the way the little kid that skinned their knee yelling "Didn't HURT!!!through the tears.

Of course it's "something" to you, as evidenced by you top posting about it.

 

[Union_Jack_1972]

Jen,

I have a request and that is leave me out of this conversation... I know I have brought you in another one, and it was incorrect on my part...

The grudge that the poster has is beyond childish and has become just retarded to me...

If someone hold a grudge against someone they have never seen in their life then that tell me they've got some serious issues...

So it does not matter how many times you tell him we're not Pals because he has latched on to this and will not be sway no matter how much we prove we're not pals...

Also it does not matter if your post was just another innocent post because to him it must be about him... He will accuse you of mocking him and will not accept anything else...

The internet is giant toliet, and political forums is the crap that usually that dumped in it...

I hold no grudge against you for wanting to be me pal even though you never wanted it but according to our new pal you are me pal even though I have no pals, but my new pal told me so...

Did you get that last part and if so then you will understand our new pal rants!?!

 

[Jen]

Done.
And you are as much a pal to me as anyone else here, Jack. I don't think of anyone here as a "pal". Acquaintance doesn't seem to be quite right either. I'm sure there is a word for the relationship but I haven't found just the right one yet.
I won't mention you again.

Jen

Jen,

I have a request and that is leave me out of this conversation... I know I have brought you in another one, and it was incorrect on my part...

The grudge that the poster has is beyond childish and has become just retarded to me...

If someone hold a grudge against someone they have never seen in their life then that tell me they've got some serious issues...

So it does not matter how many times you tell him we're not Pals because he has latched on to this and will not be sway no matter how much we prove we're not pals...

Also it does not matter if your post was just another innocent post because to him it must be about him... He will accuse you of mocking him and will not accept anything else...

The internet is giant toliet, and political forums is the crap that usually that dumped in it...

I hold no grudge against you for wanting to be me pal even though you never wanted it but according to our new pal you are me pal even though I have no pals, but my new pal told me so...

Did you get that last part and if so then you will understand our new pal rants!?!

 

[Mytzlplk]

what balderdash.

This post was as much about your recently being in the middle of a grudgefest, as the top post was about "internet pals" it generated. That is why both - your "grudge" post here and that rather stupid "Internet Pals" post occurred in such close temporal proximity to one another and the "grudgefest".

stuff your "it's purely coincidental" crap. Few around here are as gullible as you are, and the making of this case is far removed from any claims by me that "the world revolves around me". I'm just stating the obvious cause/effect, the latter of which this post was.

Sure, you weren't aware of any "long standing feuds". It's almost like your old pal "dawg" was the only one following me around like a little puppy dog nipping at my ankles with "crackhead", etc, daily -- in lieu of any intelligible responses. You cons had quit a few such mealy-mouthed morons serving as that kinda hatchet guy.

But you were blissfully unaware of all that? Too funny

I don't have any problems with grudges with other posters here. They are forgotten as soon I leave and influence my conduct while here - hardly the kinda stuff short or long term health problems will arise from.

Perhaps maybe you can link the reader to another spontaneous "words of wisdom from jennifer" post like this one, no?

 

[Jen]

The LAST thing I notice around here is any bug nipping at anyone's heels unless it's my own heels. But hey...........dawg has been gone quite a while. You seem to still be smarting from it. That tells me he got in a good bite or two. But yes. I was blissfully unaware of that (specifically) but obviously dawg did enough overt stuff that it got him banned. You are safe now, mytzlplk. And I am glad no other grudges are hanging on to you. I have known posters (one or two from BB who didn't come here with us) for whom the events on the boards could ruin their day/week. That is the sort of person this post was aimed toward.

what balderdash.

This post was as much about your recently being in the middle of a grudgefest, as the top post was about "internet pals" it generated. That is why both - your "grudge" post here and that rather stupid "Internet Pals" post occurred in such close temporal proximity to one another and the "grudgefest".

stuff your "it's purely coincidental" crap. Few around here are as gullible as you are, and the making of this case is far removed from any claims by me that "the world revolves around me". I'm just stating the obvious cause/effect, the latter of which this post was.

Sure, you weren't aware of any "long standing feuds". It's almost like your old pal "dawg" was the only one following me around like a little puppy dog nipping at my ankles with "crackhead", etc, daily -- in lieu of any intelligible responses. You cons had quit a few such mealy-mouthed morons serving as that kinda hatchet guy.

But you were blissfully unaware of all that? Too funny

I don't have any problems with grudges with other posters here. They are forgotten as soon I leave and influence my conduct while here - hardly the kinda stuff short or long term health problems will arise from.

Perhaps maybe you can link the reader to another spontaneous "words of wisdom from jennifer" post like this one, no?

 

[Mytzlplk]

in other words, you have the powers of observation of an earthworm.

that would explain why you're so grossly wrong all the time, like suggesting that mere citation of something can lead inexorably to ONLY ONE conclusion -- something still bites. I'll hate your racist, etc, former email/phone buddy dog until the day I die, but that hardly means I go into a tizzy every time I tell my Husky "good dog", or even think of your old racist, etc pal in the process or afterwards, even when I mention that scummy little bastard to you.

Face it, like with your "pal", you aren't bright enough to be a good liar.

If no one here has been observed by you to be holding grudges (other than your "pal" and I) then where's the need for these words of wisdom?

Your efforts to cut the tether between this TP and the dialogues that prompted it are failing quite miserably.