Hillary smashes all expectations – no coughing or fainting !!

[as seen on tv]

http://www.searchquotes.com/quotes/author/Dr_Phil/
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/p/phil_mcgraw.html

Wow – what a surprise!! Newspapers and sites favorable to Hillary claim she won the debate. Sites which lean right think Trump won. How on earth could this happen??? I mean, they both can’t be true, can they? CAN THEY???

Okay – let’s just admit that no voters are likely to change their mind based on last night’s debate.

I’m honestly looking for electoral guidance here. On who would be better and safer for america. On whether to vote at all, in fact. I know a bunch of career politician republicans say they’re voting for Trump, because they’re afraid of the end of “politics as usual” in government if Trump becomes president. Democrats are voting for Hillary because they're afraid that Trump might get serious about taxes, spending, and the national debt. Horrors!

So I turned to the most trusted man in America for political advice: Dr. Phil !!! (Phil McGraw). He’s the only guy I’m sure won’t put feathers on a dog and call it an undocumented worker. I collected my most important questions on the election and the future of our nation, and cross referenced them against the "Dr. Phil quotes” in the links above. Here are the answers I got . ..

(Will Hillary change her ways if she becomes president?)
“The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior”

(Will Donald Trump’s Mexican wall actually work?)
Don't wait until you're in a crisis to come up with a crisis plan.

(Do you believe either candidate’s economic plan?)
It's so much easier to tell people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear.

(Hillary's entire campaign seems to revolve around the claim that Trump is trying to amp up voter fear)
Eighty percent of all choices are based on fear. Most people don't choose what they want; they choose what they think is safe.

(The national debt is now $200,000 for each of America’s 100 million families. How does this end?)
If you're trying to get out of debt, you have to be willing to treat everything as expendable.

(Hillary says Trump’s rhetoric is going to cause illegal aliens, ISIS and the 50% of citizens who are deplorable to become even more irrational and violent. Does she have a point?)
“People have the right to say whatever they want to. But you have the right not to react and act up”

(Do Trump's 3 past bankruptcies matter, regarding his economic skills?)
I grew up in athletics, where people keep score

(What do you consider the high point of Hillary’s tenure as Secretary of State? Or is there actually one?)
Failure is no accident.

(Why has international regard for America continued to fall under Obama? Can Hillary or Trump fix this by scaling back our obligations with NATO, Israel, South Korea, etc? Will that restore our international reputation?)
"No dog ever peed on a moving car."

(Should Trump release his taxes? Should Hillary release her Wall Street speeches and health records?)
People who have nothing to hide, hide nothing.

(How can Trump win over the centrists and undecided voters?)
“Learn when's a good time to shut up”

Thanks a lot, Dr. Phil!! (insert sarcastabang here). I guess the only Phil-o-gism that was in any way relevant is this:
"We teach people how to treat us"

I completely agree - I intend to teach the leadership of both parties that I won't be gulled into voting for candidates who are unacceptable, and can only make things worse. I'm staying home on election day.

 

[Sickofleft]

I think in the coming days if the debate is considered a draw that will be a disaster for Clinton.

 

[as seen on tv]

I think in the coming days if the debate is considered a draw that will be a disaster for Clinton.

I'm inclined to agree. the only upside here for her is that she wasn't asked to defend her actual "accomplishments", which of course are indefensible.

trump was interviewed on fox this morning. he didn't sound like a winner. most snap polls had trump winning. CNN was the outlier, and had Hillary as the winner.

 

[Sickofleft]

I'm inclined to agree. the only upside here for her is that she wasn't asked to defend her actual "accomplishments", which of course are indefensible.

trump was interviewed on fox this morning. he didn't sound like a winner. most snap polls had trump winning. CNN was the outlier, and had Hillary as the winner.

I don't want to make excuses for Trump but being it was the first time he had to do this, one on one for 90mins straight with no TV commercial time outs..........he wasn't half bad (yes the bar for him is at floor level).

People don't like Clinton they are looking for an excuse not to vote for her....all Trump has to do is keep seeming plausible as President.........he does that and he may win.

 

[as seen on tv]

I don't want to make excuses for Trump but being it was the first time he had to do this, one on one for 90mins straight with no TV commercial time outs..........he wasn't half bad (yes the bar for him is at floor level).

People don't like Clinton they are looking for an excuse not to vote for her....all Trump has to do is keep seeming plausible as President.........he does that and he may win.

wasnt' trump in a bunch of GOP debates during the primaries?

 

[Sickofleft]

wasnt' trump in a bunch of GOP debates during the primaries?

Yes, often with 9-12 other people with commercial breaks.

 

[as seen on tv]

Yes, often with 9-12 other people with commercial breaks.

trump has spent his entire life negotiating billion dollar business deals.

I'm not willing to assume he can't wait 90 minutes to visit the restroom, or keep his attention focused during that time.

 

[Sickofleft]

trump has spent his entire life negotiating billion dollar business deals.

I'm not willing to assume he can't wait 90 minutes to visit the restroom, or keep his attention focused during that time.

All true but debating is all together different. When on stage with a bunch of people as he was he can hide, he does not have to do anything when say...Cruz or Rubio or Christie or Bush or Paul or Fiorina are yelling at each other...he can sit back.

One on one for 90 mins with no TV timeouts, no place to hide and he is debating a machine.....ok zombie who has been doing this for...30yrs...........

I thought he was surprisingly good for the first 30mins then disappeared he just does not have the expertise or the policy knowledge to fall back on.....he could have hammered her so many times......Cyber security? Talk about a slow pitch right in the sweet spot .....and..............nothin.......

Yet, he was ok. She has yet to put him away and that is a problem for her going forward.

 

[Arkady]

Newspapers and sites favorable to Hillary claim she won the debate. Sites which lean right think Trump won. How on earth could this happen??? I mean, they both can’t be true, can they? CAN THEY???

Real polls (those with random sampling, not online polls any bot can influence) say Clinton won by a big margin. But the right-wing sites always have to say the Republican won, no matter what.

Okay – let’s just admit that no voters are likely to change their mind based on last night’s debate.

We'll see, once the polls come out. I suspect it will have made a difference, just based on past history of strong debate performances influencing the next round of polls.

Anyway, it's pretty funny to watch all those who thought Clinton was dying scramble today. She went the whole debate without a cough, or a sip of water, or a trip to the bathroom, or even so much as leaning on the podium. She was poised and alert throughout, and only go stronger as the debate went on (judging by the polls showing stronger second-half performance). Trump, meanwhile, sniffed and snorted, hunched over his podium, and lost his temper and his train of thought repeatedly. It wasn't supposed to go that way according to the right-wing-media script. So, it must have come as a big surprise for those who have self-entombed within the conservative echo chamber.

Anyway, Clinton did a good job highlighting the incoherence of Trump's positions. He claims to be very concerned about how debt has increased, and yet has called for upper-class tax cuts that, according even to conservative analysts, will greatly increase the debt (as much as $9.5 trillion according to the Tax Policy Center, for one of the many half-baked policy proposals he's put out there).

 

[Arkady]

I'm inclined to agree. the only upside here for her is that she wasn't asked to defend her actual "accomplishments", which of course are indefensible.

trump was interviewed on fox this morning. he didn't sound like a winner. most snap polls had trump winning. CNN was the outlier, and had Hillary as the winner.

Which snap polls, specifically? Do you mean those online polls that anyone can vote in as many times as he wants? Obviously, those are worse than useless. Those are the kinds of polls that had Ron Paul dominating the Republican field for years, and that had Bernie Sanders beating Clinton in a huge landslide. I'm not aware of any real polls that showed Trump winning. The PPP and CNN polls both showed a big Clinton victory.

I assume the reason Trump didn't ask about her accomplishments is that his team realized in debate prep that wouldn't play well for him. All it does is hands her the mike and lets her pull from a quarter century of public service to highlight literally dozens of accomplishments, and then for her to conclude and ask Trump what he's ever done for the American people that wasn't self-service. I'm sure, since Clinton does her homework, she's polished her answer to "what have you accomplished" to a high sheen. Giving her the opening to basically do a mini stump speech would be a bad move for Trump.

 

[Dawg]

Real polls (those with random sampling, not online polls any bot can influence) say Clinton won by a big margin. But the right-wing sites always have to say the Republican won, no matter what.



We'll see, once the polls come out. I suspect it will have made a difference, just based on past history of strong debate performances influencing the next round of polls.

Anyway, it's pretty funny to watch all those who thought Clinton was dying scramble today. She went the whole debate without a cough, or a sip of water, or a trip to the bathroom, or even so much as leaning on the podium. She was poised and alert throughout, and only go stronger as the debate went on (judging by the polls showing stronger second-half performance). Trump, meanwhile, sniffed and snorted, hunched over his podium, and lost his temper and his train of thought repeatedly. It wasn't supposed to go that way according to the right-wing-media script. So, it must have come as a big surprise for those who have self-entombed within the conservative echo chamber.

Anyway, Clinton did a good job highlighting the incoherence of Trump's positions. He claims to be very concerned about how debt has increased, and yet has called for upper-class tax cuts that, according even to conservative analysts, will greatly increase the debt (as much as $9.5 trillion according to the Tax Policy Center, for one of the many half-baked policy proposals he's put out there).

If amount of meds she got before debate would kill most humans..........her eyes and that smile provided she was heavily medicated.

Of course no Lib will admit that.

 

[Dawg]

All true but debating is all together different. When on stage with a bunch of people as he was he can hide, he does not have to do anything when say...Cruz or Rubio or Christie or Bush or Paul or Fiorina are yelling at each other...he can sit back.

One on one for 90 mins with no TV timeouts, no place to hide and he is debating a machine.....ok zombie who has been doing this for...30yrs...........

I thought he was surprisingly good for the first 30mins then disappeared he just does not have the expertise or the policy knowledge to fall back on.....he could have hammered her so many times......Cyber security? Talk about a slow pitch right in the sweet spot .....and..............nothin.......

Yet, he was ok. She has yet to put him away and that is a problem for her going forward.

Trump disappointed me by being soft on illary.................

 

[Arkady]

If amount of meds she got before debate would kill most humans..........her eyes and that smile provided she was heavily medicated.

Of course no Lib will admit that.

I'm a bit more concerned for Trump. The guy couldn't stop sniffling, his eyes were puffy slits, and his face was its usual alarming shade of orange, plus he could help gesticulating spastically, when he wasn't slumped against the podium.

He reminded me a bit of those 80s corporate raider characters trying to hide the fact they just did a line of coke to try to get up for the big deal.

 

[marvin martian]

I'm a bit more concerned for Trump. The guy couldn't stop sniffling, his eyes were puffy slits, and his face was its usual alarming shade of orange, plus he could help gesticulating spastically, when he wasn't slumped against the podium.

He reminded me a bit of those 80s corporate raider characters trying to hide the fact they just did a line of coke to try to get up for the big deal.

Clinton looked like she had her makeup done by a mortician.