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In April of 1961 with a newly-elected Democrat in the White House, the United States launched the infamous "Bay of Pigs" invasion aimed at Cuba:

As the invasion force lost the strategic initiative, the international community found out about the invasion, and U.S. president John F. Kennedy decided to withhold further air support.[9] The plan, devised during Eisenhower's presidency, had required the involvement of U.S. air and naval forces. Without further air support, the invasion was being conducted with fewer forces than the CIA had deemed necessary. The invading force was defeated within three days by the Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces (Spanish: Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias – FAR) and surrendered on 20 April. Most of the surrendered counter-revolutionary troops were publicly interrogated and put into Cuban prisons with further prosecution.

Were Democrats outraged? Did they condemn the President?


No.


In April of 1980, with another Democrat in the White House, the U.S. launched Operation Eagle, the objective being to rescue embassy hostages taken by the Iranian government:

The operation, one of Delta Force's first, encountered many obstacles and failures and was subsequently aborted.[1] Eight helicopters were sent to the first staging area called Desert One, but only five arrived in operational condition.[2] One had encountered hydraulic problems, another was caught in a sand storm, and the third showed signs of a cracked rotor blade. During the operational planning, it was decided that the mission would be aborted if fewer than six helicopters remained operational upon arrival at the Desert One site, despite only four being absolutely necessary.[2] In a move that is still discussed in military circles, the field commanders advised President Carter to abort the mission, which he did.[3]

As the US forces prepared to withdraw from Desert One, one of the remaining helicopters crashed into a transport aircraft that contained both servicemen and jet fuel. The resulting fire destroyed both aircraft and killed eight servicemen.




Were Democrats outraged? Did they condemn the President?


No.


In January of 2026, with a non-Democrat in the White House, the U.S. conducted Operation Absolute Resolve, designed to capture President Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and bring him to the U.S. to stand trial for narco-terrorism. The op was conducted with extreme precision and professionalism, and the mission objective was obtained with no casualties. A total success.


Were Democrats outraged? Did they condemn the President?


Yes.



Conclusion: Democrats are fine with abject failure. It is success that they cannot abide.


Which explains a lot.

Including this:

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Here endeth the lesson.
 
well, this is Different
it's why Delta Forces were used

that must be a picture of Joey when he learned his Pension can be $417,000
 
In April of 1961 with a newly-elected Democrat in the White House, the United States launched the infamous "Bay of Pigs" invasion aimed at Cuba:

As the invasion force lost the strategic initiative, the international community found out about the invasion, and U.S. president John F. Kennedy decided to withhold further air support.[9] The plan, devised during Eisenhower's presidency, had required the involvement of U.S. air and naval forces. Without further air support, the invasion was being conducted with fewer forces than the CIA had deemed necessary. The invading force was defeated within three days by the Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces (Spanish: Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias – FAR) and surrendered on 20 April. Most of the surrendered counter-revolutionary troops were publicly interrogated and put into Cuban prisons with further prosecution.

Were Democrats outraged? Did they condemn the President?


No.


In April of 1980, with another Democrat in the White House, the U.S. launched Operation Eagle, the objective being to rescue embassy hostages taken by the Iranian government:

The operation, one of Delta Force's first, encountered many obstacles and failures and was subsequently aborted.[1] Eight helicopters were sent to the first staging area called Desert One, but only five arrived in operational condition.[2] One had encountered hydraulic problems, another was caught in a sand storm, and the third showed signs of a cracked rotor blade. During the operational planning, it was decided that the mission would be aborted if fewer than six helicopters remained operational upon arrival at the Desert One site, despite only four being absolutely necessary.[2] In a move that is still discussed in military circles, the field commanders advised President Carter to abort the mission, which he did.[3]

As the US forces prepared to withdraw from Desert One, one of the remaining helicopters crashed into a transport aircraft that contained both servicemen and jet fuel. The resulting fire destroyed both aircraft and killed eight servicemen.




Were Democrats outraged? Did they condemn the President?


No.


In January of 2026, with a non-Democrat in the White House, the U.S. conducted Operation Absolute Resolve, designed to capture President Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and bring him to the U.S. to stand trial for narco-terrorism. The op was conducted with extreme precision and professionalism, and the mission objective was obtained with no casualties. A total success.


Were Democrats outraged? Did they condemn the President?


Yes.



Conclusion: Democrats are fine with abject failure. It is success that they cannot abide.


Which explains a lot.

Including this:

View attachment 85492


Here endeth the lesson.

1) Bay of Pigs was an Eisenhower operation that the CIA lied to Kennedy about. He fired the CIA director for this.

2) Jimmy Carter was a piss-poor leader who mishandled Iran. The Democrats stupidly continued to support him just like they did with Biden and the country paid the price for the stupidity.

[edit] - great photo of Biden - you really captured his being.
 
In April of 1961 with a newly-elected Democrat in the White House, the United States launched the infamous "Bay of Pigs" invasion aimed at Cuba:

As the invasion force lost the strategic initiative, the international community found out about the invasion, and U.S. president John F. Kennedy decided to withhold further air support.[9] The plan, devised during Eisenhower's presidency, had required the involvement of U.S. air and naval forces. Without further air support, the invasion was being conducted with fewer forces than the CIA had deemed necessary. The invading force was defeated within three days by the Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces (Spanish: Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias – FAR) and surrendered on 20 April. Most of the surrendered counter-revolutionary troops were publicly interrogated and put into Cuban prisons with further prosecution.

Were Democrats outraged? Did they condemn the President?


No.


In April of 1980, with another Democrat in the White House, the U.S. launched Operation Eagle, the objective being to rescue embassy hostages taken by the Iranian government:

The operation, one of Delta Force's first, encountered many obstacles and failures and was subsequently aborted.[1] Eight helicopters were sent to the first staging area called Desert One, but only five arrived in operational condition.[2] One had encountered hydraulic problems, another was caught in a sand storm, and the third showed signs of a cracked rotor blade. During the operational planning, it was decided that the mission would be aborted if fewer than six helicopters remained operational upon arrival at the Desert One site, despite only four being absolutely necessary.[2] In a move that is still discussed in military circles, the field commanders advised President Carter to abort the mission, which he did.[3]

As the US forces prepared to withdraw from Desert One, one of the remaining helicopters crashed into a transport aircraft that contained both servicemen and jet fuel. The resulting fire destroyed both aircraft and killed eight servicemen.




Were Democrats outraged? Did they condemn the President?


No.


In January of 2026, with a non-Democrat in the White House, the U.S. conducted Operation Absolute Resolve, designed to capture President Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and bring him to the U.S. to stand trial for narco-terrorism. The op was conducted with extreme precision and professionalism, and the mission objective was obtained with no casualties. A total success.


Were Democrats outraged? Did they condemn the President?


Yes.



Conclusion: Democrats are fine with abject failure. It is success that they cannot abide.


Which explains a lot.

Including this:

View attachment 85492


Here endeth the lesson.

What can one say about Trump cultists comparing the effort to rescue US hostages in Iran with Trump’s invasion of Venezuela to capture their leader and take control over their oil?

It’s a manifestation of brain damage, pure and simple. A brain rotted by decades of right wing lies and propaganda.
 
1) Bay of Pigs was an Eisenhower operation that the CIA lied to Kennedy about. He fired the CIA director for this.

2) Jimmy Carter was a piss-poor leader who mishandled Iran. The Democrats stupidly continued to support him just like they did with Biden and the country paid the price for the stupidity.

[edit] - great photo of Biden - you really captured his being.

1) The planning for the Bay of Pigs invasion was planned on Eisenhower's watch. It was executed on Kennedy's watch. The CIA probably did lie to JFK, but it's his job, his watch, his responsibility. As Truman put it, the buck stops with him, and no one else.

2) Jimmy Carter, while a decent human being, was not up to the job as POTUS. Operation Eagle Claw, like virtually everything else about his administration, was a complete flop.

I'm glad you liked the photo of Biden, one which I find emblematic of his four awful years in office.
 
In April of 1961 with a newly-elected Democrat in the White House, the United States launched the infamous "Bay of Pigs" invasion aimed at Cuba:

As the invasion force lost the strategic initiative, the international community found out about the invasion, and U.S. president John F. Kennedy decided to withhold further air support.[9] The plan, devised during Eisenhower's presidency, had required the involvement of U.S. air and naval forces. Without further air support, the invasion was being conducted with fewer forces than the CIA had deemed necessary. The invading force was defeated within three days by the Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces (Spanish: Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias – FAR) and surrendered on 20 April.





In January of 2026, with a non-Democrat in the White House, the U.S. conducted Operation Absolute Resolve, designed to capture President Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and bring him to the U.S. to stand trial for narco-terrorism. The op was conducted with extreme precision and professionalism, and the mission objective was obtained with no casualties. A total success.



View attachment 85492
Profile in Cowardice

Preppy Prettyboy JFK's incompetence and smug conceit had already murdered his crew members in the PT-109 incident, for which MacArthur said he should have been court-martialed, but Joe's bribery of JAG overrode the great general.

So JFK was afraid he might not get away with a disaster this time. Instead, he let Cuban patriots get slaughtered on the beaches of the Bay of Pigs. American History proves we can pull off any difficult military operation if we have the right leaders.
 
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