Housing the Refugees

[Arkady]

It looks like my own state of Massachusetts will be housing some of the immigrant children:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...nt-children/ivsf0tVmqJKYHDAGtQ50FP/story.html

I'm glad to hear it. It reminds be of the poem mounted in the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

 

[BRU]

We must help them that is for sure, we have no choice but to help them. 50 thousand children is sure going to take a toll on states economy; so I do sympathize with states, but we can't let them suffer. The real problem lies ahead tho; these are temporary shelters, what are we going to do with them after that?

 

[Boltlady]

It looks like my own state of Massachusetts will be housing some of the immigrant children:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...nt-children/ivsf0tVmqJKYHDAGtQ50FP/story.html

I'm glad to hear it. It reminds be of the poem mounted in the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Here ya go Arkady. Looks like you'll have a whole lot more to 'help' out.

PUBLISHED:
Wed, JUL 9th 2014 @11:27 am EDT

Earlier this week, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference to formally announce a new program that will allow Guatemalan citizens to legally travel through Mexico in their effort to enter the United States illegally. Guatemala is one of three sending countries accounting for most of the illegal aliens coming across the U.S.-Mexico border during the ongoing surge. The agreement grants Guatemalans 72 hours of legal status while they make their journey to the U.S.

The "Southern Border Program to Improve Passage" will increase the number of border checkpoints along the Mexico-Guatemala border, provide medical care, and offer Guatemalans a Regional Visitor's Card. The card grants Guatemalans enough time to make the trek to Mexico's northern border.

The program will also offer protection and financial assistance for unaccompanied minors who attempt to make the journey.

For more information, see the Examiner and El Universal.

Mexico & Guatemala announce agreement to make illegal passage to U.S. easier | NumbersUSA

 

[worldlymrb]

Refugees?

Refugee from what?

This is a Obama organized crisis to dilute the middle-class (producers) voting base, so as to create a majority army of govt dependent voters.

BTW ARKADY: You're a fool if you don't think they will vote to take every you got too!

 

[Arkady]

Refugees?

Refugee from what?

This is a Obama organized crisis to dilute the middle-class (producers) voting base, so as to create a majority army of govt dependent voters.

BTW ARKADY: You're a fool if you don't think they will vote to take every you got too!

Refugees from severe violent crime.

 

[Arkady]

Here ya go Arkady. Looks like you'll have a whole lot more to 'help' out.

PUBLISHED:
Wed, JUL 9th 2014 @11:27 am EDT

Earlier this week, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference to formally announce a new program that will allow Guatemalan citizens to legally travel through Mexico in their effort to enter the United States illegally. Guatemala is one of three sending countries accounting for most of the illegal aliens coming across the U.S.-Mexico border during the ongoing surge. The agreement grants Guatemalans 72 hours of legal status while they make their journey to the U.S.

The "Southern Border Program to Improve Passage" will increase the number of border checkpoints along the Mexico-Guatemala border, provide medical care, and offer Guatemalans a Regional Visitor's Card. The card grants Guatemalans enough time to make the trek to Mexico's northern border.

The program will also offer protection and financial assistance for unaccompanied minors who attempt to make the journey.

For more information, see the Examiner and El Universal.

Mexico & Guatemala announce agreement to make illegal passage to U.S. easier | NumbersUSA

Happy to be of service.

 

[Barbella]

Refugees from severe violent crime.

Where shall we send the thousands of innocent people caught in the middle of gang wars in Chicago, St. Louis, Camden, Detroit etc? You know, the "collateral damage" happening EVERY SINGLE DAY in our crime and drug infested, gang ruled inner cities?

 

[Arkady]

Where shall we send the thousands of innocent people caught in the middle of gang wars in Chicago, St. Louis, Camden, Detroit etc? You know, the "collateral damage" happening EVERY SINGLE DAY in our crime and drug infested, gang ruled inner cities?

There's no equivalence there. The murder rate in Honduras is 90.4, and El Salvador and Guatemala are around 40. And that's for the countries as a whole, not for the most dangerous cities in the countries. In San Pedro Sula, for example, the rate is 187.14. In Chicago,it's 18.5. So we're talking about these kids fleeing as much as ten times the risk of being murdered that we see in Chicago.

 

[BRU]

There's no equivalence there. The murder rate in Honduras is 90.4, and El Salvador and Guatemala are around 40. And that's for the countries as a whole, not for the most dangerous cities in the countries. In San Pedro Sula, for example, the rate is 187.14. In Chicago,it's 18.5. So we're talking about these kids fleeing as much as ten times the risk of being murdered that we see in Chicago.

but I think her point is Ark what about our 1,750,000 homeless in America? .....before we take on 50 thousand from another country. It's a valid point .

 

[Drumcollie]

and there you have Ark!

 

[Guthrie]

but I think her point is Ark what about our 1,750,000 homeless in America? .....before we take on 50 thousand from another country. It's a valid point .

The homeless ins American can be taken care off simultaneously. To assert that the homeless arent being cared for because of these children is ludicrous and dishonest.

Want to take care of the homeless? Then we must reverse a bi-partisan policy of not giving a damn about them.

 

[BRU]

The homeless ins American can be taken care off simultaneously. To assert that the homeless arent being cared for because of these children is ludicrous and dishonest.

Want to take care of the homeless? Then we must reverse a bi-partisan policy of not giving a damn about them.

but are they being taken care of? Are we asking states to provide shelter to all of them like we are these children? Nope. That is what people take issue to and I can't say I blame them. All be it I believe we need to help these kids I also believe this country needs to place the same priorities on our own as we do illegal aliens.

 

[Guthrie]

but are they being taken care of? Are we asking states to provide shelter to all of them like we are these children? Nope. That is what people take issue to and I can't say I blame them. All be it I believe we need to help these kids I also believe this country needs to place the same priorities on our own as we do illegal aliens.

That is 100 percent true. Couldn't agree more.

Most of the homeless are veterans mind you and nearly all are mentally sick.

Neither party addresses it because neither party cares.

 

[Arkady]

but I think her point is Ark what about our 1,750,000 homeless in America? .....before we take on 50 thousand from another country. It's a valid point .

I'm all for addressing problems at home, too. But we can work on multiple problems simultaneously. If we never dealt with any problems other than our own until all our own problems were fixed, we'd never end up dealing with anything other than our own problems. There's always some issue at home that needs attention. That was true in the golden age of immigration, when many of our ancestors came here, and it's true today.

 

[BRU]

I'm all for addressing problems at home, too. But we can work on multiple problems simultaneously. If we never dealt with any problems other than our own until all our own problems were fixed, we'd never end up dealing with anything other than our own problems. There's always some issue at home that needs attention. That was true in the golden age of immigration, when many of our ancestors came here, and it's true today.

Ok so how many states have agreed to take in our homeless 50 thousand at a time?

 

[Arkady]

but are they being taken care of? Are we asking states to provide shelter to all of them like we are these children? Nope. That is what people take issue to and I can't say I blame them. All be it I believe we need to help these kids I also believe this country needs to place the same priorities on our own as we do illegal aliens.

Here in Massachusetts we do, in fact, have homeless shelters. I've volunteered at one.

http://www.pinestreetinn.org/about_us

 

[Drumcollie]

The homeless ins American can be taken care off simultaneously. To assert that the homeless arent being cared for because of these children is ludicrous and dishonest.

Want to take care of the homeless? Then we must reverse a bi-partisan policy of not giving a damn about them.

Taken care "off" simultaneously????...first learn to spell...then learn how the debt in this country is working.

How so????...we are 17.7 trillion in debt...we have to borrow to help anyone so to assert that these can be taken in a sense yes....but at the expense of the American people....You have to take from what could be given to Americans..in the form of reduced debt or welfare or help to Veterans...so your p[ost and assertion is just plain stupid!

 

[Drumcollie]

Here in Massachusetts we do, in fact, have homeless shelters. I've volunteered at one.

http://www.pinestreetinn.org/about_us

let's guess how many will be displaced to shelter the illegals

 

[Arkady]

let's guess how many will be displaced to shelter the illegals

None. The plan is to shelter them on former military bases.

 

[Drumcollie]

That is 100 percent true. Couldn't agree more.

Most of the homeless are veterans mind you and nearly all are mentally sick.

Neither party addresses it because neither party cares.

The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development’s 5th Annual Homeless Assessment Report to Congress [11] estimated that 1.56 million people, or one in every 200 Americans, experienced homelessness and found shelter between Oct. 1, 2008 and Sept. 30, 2009 (p. iii). On a single night in January 2009, 643,000 people were homeless. Nearly two-thirds stayed in an emergency shelter or transitional housing program and the other third were living on the street, in an abandoned building, or another place not meant for human habitation (p. 19). A typical sheltered homeless person is a single, middle-aged man and a member of a minority group. Of all those who sought emergency shelter or transitional housing during 2009, the following characteristics were observed:

• 78 percent of all sheltered homeless persons are adults.

• 61 percent are male.

• 62 percent are members of a minority group.

• 38 percent are 31-to-50 years old.

• 64 percent are in one-person households.

• 38 percent have a disability.

(Annual Homeless Assessment Report to Congress, 2009)

23% of homeless population are veterans

http://nchv.org/index.php/news/media/background_and_statistics/

http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/veterans.html

http://www.studentsagainsthunger.org/page/hhp/overview-homelessness-america

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States

Where did you falsify your information?...I hate Americans...speciallyveterans.org