How about that Chuck and Nancy show last night
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Sickofleft
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They looked like someone broke into a funeral home, picked two random people, took them out of their caskets and put them up in front of the camera.
sear
Mayor
This morning a commentator on a local NPR affiliate said that it was awkward stagecraft. He said they shouldn't have been at the same podium
AND (though I have not corroborated this)
He also said the camera work was chosen to make it look like it was broadcast from the white house, but the commentator says it was not.
What I'd like to know is whether if Trump ever requests prime time again, whether the networks will provide it.
Sources I've read said the broadcast networks lost $millions on this. And those networks have $financial obligations both to their share-holders, and to their sponsors.
AND (though I have not corroborated this)
He also said the camera work was chosen to make it look like it was broadcast from the white house, but the commentator says it was not.
What I'd like to know is whether if Trump ever requests prime time again, whether the networks will provide it.
Sources I've read said the broadcast networks lost $millions on this. And those networks have $financial obligations both to their share-holders, and to their sponsors.
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Sickofleft
Guest
It would be a terrible precedent to be set if the broadcast Networks refused to allow the POTUS to address the country.
The Sage of Main Street
Governor
(Janet Leigh): "Wouldn't It Be Better If You Put Her Someplace?"
(Tony Perkins): "You Mean an Institution? A Madhouse?"
The Libs also got Ruthie Ginzburg from a leftover prop used in Psycho.
She sure has Drumpf in a dither and that's fine with me. You guys do protest too much about Nancy. And when you talk about putting someone in the madhouse...think of the guy you defend 24/7. Donald Trump is losing it (if he ever had it) big time.
She's much brighter than th POTUS and tough as nails. Too bad you cons have to have a death wish on your Messiah's enemies.
When you spell out the POTUS...take out the TU and you'd be correct. POS. Why would the networks respect the POS who disrespects them every day?
marvin martian
Emperor
sear
Mayor
And it's a terrible precedent that President Trump hogs half an hour of $valuable $prime $time without anything new to say.
Previous presidents understood prudence.
This president either doesn't, or does but doesn't care.
And it would be a far sadder precedent if the U.S. became such a dictatorship that the exec. could dictate to private commercial industry the terms of their $money $making $operations.
There are no one-sided coins SL #6.
Enjoy your evening.
marvin martian
Emperor
How much network time did Obama take in his first two years?
sear
Mayor
I sincerely hope you're not that simple-minded.
It's not purely the numerical comparison of hours, minutes, and or seconds.
It's a matter of merit.
We're addressing commercial television here.
I don't want to lose you, so let's keep it simple. Here's a 101 primer on commercial TV.
'[Commercial] Television in America does not exist to deliver programs to viewers.
It exists to deliver audiences to advertisers.' a top CBS-TV executive
OBVIOUSLY when president Obama announced over network broadcast TV that ST6 had iced UBL, that was an issue of legitimate concern to those that lived through the attacks of 09/11/01.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
President Bush:
in his typical pseudo-Texas swagger said of UBL: "wanted, dead or alive".
But after years of failure, Bush was dismissive, as if it didn't matter.
But President Obama was a more disciplined, more methodical leader.
Obama tracked UBL down to Abadabad, Pakistan. And President Obama took the risky step of sending ST6 after UBL without obtaining clearance from Afghani authorities.
Had Obama attempted to do so, UBL might not have been there when ST6 arrived.
Bush failed.
Obama succeeded.
And Obama saw meticulously to every detail, giving UBL both a proper Muslim burial, and insuring the burial was at sea, so as to deny a shrine to UBL's murderous thug followers.
Many have criticized Obama for not taking UBL alive, which ST6 clearly could have done.
BUT !!
Had Obama done so, every U.S. citizen at home or abroad would have been at risk of being held hostage for UBL's release.
Obama dodged that bullet by planting one in the melon. LIGHTS OUT !!
But that was news.
What news was imparted by Trump last night, or Pelosi / Schumer for that matter?
zilch
nada
naught
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goose egg
Know it or not, believe it or not, like it or not, admit it or not mm, U.S. president of the United States of America Trump is a publicity slut.
Trump wants to dominate headlines every business cycle.
It's how he got elected.
Media estimates are that candidate Trump got a $Billion worth of free advertising, by making outrageous statements and promises he'd never keep.
- Mexico will pay for it.
- "Nobody knows the system better than me." "Which is why I alone can fix it." presidential candidate Trump 16/07/21 from the campaign podium
- "I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's gunna be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now." Candidate Trump 15/09/27 to CBS Scott Pelly
Trump's a huckster, a liar. "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. ... playing the members of the American public for suckers. He gets a free ride to the White House. And all we get is a lousy hat." Mitt Romney
There isn't much bipartisan agreement in DC these days.
But there's bipartisan agreement on that!
marvin martian
Emperor
I sincerely hope you're not that simple-minded.
It's not purely the numerical comparison of hours, minutes, and or seconds.
It's a matter of merit.
We're addressing commercial television here.
I don't want to lose you, so let's keep it simple. Here's a 101 primer on commercial TV.
'[Commercial] Television in America does not exist to deliver programs to viewers.
It exists to deliver audiences to advertisers.' a top CBS-TV executive
OBVIOUSLY when president Obama announced over network broadcast TV that ST6 had iced UBL, that was an issue of legitimate concern to those that lived through the attacks of 09/11/01.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
President Bush:
in his typical pseudo-Texas swagger said of UBL: "wanted, dead or alive".
But after years of failure, Bush was dismissive, as if it didn't matter.
But President Obama was a more disciplined, more methodical leader.
Obama tracked UBL down to Abadabad, Pakistan. And President Obama took the risky step of sending ST6 after UBL without obtaining clearance from Afghani authorities.
Had Obama attempted to do so, UBL might not have been there when ST6 arrived.
Bush failed.
Obama succeeded.
And Obama saw meticulously to every detail, giving UBL both a proper Muslim burial, and insuring the burial was at sea, so as to deny a shrine to UBL's murderous thug followers.
Many have criticized Obama for not taking UBL alive, which ST6 clearly could have done.
BUT !!
Had Obama done so, every U.S. citizen at home or abroad would have been at risk of being held hostage for UBL's release.
Obama dodged that bullet by planting one in the melon. LIGHTS OUT !!
But that was news.
What news was imparted by Trump last night, or Pelosi / Schumer for that matter?
zilch
nada
naught
nix
nope
goose egg
Know it or not, believe it or not, like it or not, admit it or not mm, U.S. president of the United States of America Trump is a publicity slut.
Trump wants to dominate headlines every business cycle.
It's how he got elected.
Media estimates are that candidate Trump got a $Billion worth of free advertising, by making outrageous statements and promises he'd never keep.
- Mexico will pay for it.
- "Nobody knows the system better than me." "Which is why I alone can fix it." presidential candidate Trump 16/07/21 from the campaign podium
- "I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's gunna be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now." Candidate Trump 15/09/27 to CBS Scott Pelly
Trump's a huckster, a liar. "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. ... playing the members of the American public for suckers. He gets a free ride to the White House. And all we get is a lousy hat." Mitt Romney
There isn't much bipartisan agreement in DC these days.
But there's bipartisan agreement on that!
Describe to me the merit of Obama's use of network time in his first two years of office versus President Trump's, since that's the key differentiator, according to you.
sear
Mayor
Fair question.
But Obama's first two years were 2009, & 2010.
Candidly, I don't remember what Obama's first 2 years of prime time broadcasts were, apart from knowing he had two SOU's.
If you'll refresh my memory I can flesh it out for you.
BUT !!
We don't need any of that.
The point is, Trump didn't introduce any new information last night.
What Trump did was to repackage his message with methodical continuity, and read it from a teleprompter, instead of vamp as he prefers.
Please tell us mm.
Did Trump change YOUR mind last night?
He didn't change mine.
He didn't change Pelosi's.
He didn't change Schumer's.
The fact is, Trump wasted $millions of other people's $money, not for U.S. national security, for this "crisis" is substantially manufactured by Trump.
Trump wants this wall out of ego. He said he would, and he wants to.
Trump made grandiose promises about improving health care. And Trump quickly failed.
“Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated.” President Trump
The Republicans are giving up on healthcare for now. The best they can manage is to destroy what the Democrats accomplished under Obama's superior leadership.
So now with the eggs of failure dripping from Trump's face, he wants a vivid win. And Trump has chosen the wall as the issue at which he'll make his stand.
How terribly sad that for Trump his own ego is a higher priority than the welfare, the national security of the United States of America.
But Obama's first two years were 2009, & 2010.
Candidly, I don't remember what Obama's first 2 years of prime time broadcasts were, apart from knowing he had two SOU's.
If you'll refresh my memory I can flesh it out for you.
BUT !!
We don't need any of that.
The point is, Trump didn't introduce any new information last night.
What Trump did was to repackage his message with methodical continuity, and read it from a teleprompter, instead of vamp as he prefers.
Please tell us mm.
Did Trump change YOUR mind last night?
He didn't change mine.
He didn't change Pelosi's.
He didn't change Schumer's.
The fact is, Trump wasted $millions of other people's $money, not for U.S. national security, for this "crisis" is substantially manufactured by Trump.
Trump wants this wall out of ego. He said he would, and he wants to.
Trump made grandiose promises about improving health care. And Trump quickly failed.
“Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated.” President Trump
The Republicans are giving up on healthcare for now. The best they can manage is to destroy what the Democrats accomplished under Obama's superior leadership.
So now with the eggs of failure dripping from Trump's face, he wants a vivid win. And Trump has chosen the wall as the issue at which he'll make his stand.
How terribly sad that for Trump his own ego is a higher priority than the welfare, the national security of the United States of America.
marvin martian
Emperor
Not true.
Changing minds wasn't the purpose of the address. The purpose of the address was to elucidate the fact that people like you are actively harming my country because you hate the president more than you love your fellow Americans.
The rest of your post was just hateful drivel and TDS, so I'm ignoring it.
sear
Mayor
- piffle -
There's no denying that U.S. President Bush (younger) broke both federal, and international law by torturing persons in U.S. federal custody, and then lying emphatically about it.
But my sources indicate that UBL's Abadabad compound location was discovered by Obama's agents following a UBL courier from an al Jazeera office.
For security, so the cell-phone location couldn't be traced, UBL fed al Jazeera updates by courier. Obama's agents followed the courier, and eventually, the location to which the courier initially retreated was traced back to Abadabad.
The Bush / Cheney / Rumsfeld torture crime spree had nothing to do with it. But if it did, why didn't Bush nail UBL, instead of Obama, years into his administration?
Yours is a very familiar double-standard.
Republicans get the credit.
And Democrats get the blame.
It doesn't actually work that way.
U.S. President Obama was the commander in chief.
ST6 was under Obama's command, not Bush's when the UBL hit was completed.
You can credit Bush if it pleases you to lie.
But if you're going to credit Bush, why not also Abe Lincoln, and the tooth fairy?
