How do we help Raz-putin off of this mortal coil?

[God of War]

The first Rasputin of history was a hard kill.

Grigori Rasputin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's a shame that the (((financial))) gurus who were charged with disemboweling... I mean transitioning Russia did what they did. They could have made a world partner rather than a more-than-lethal, lethal enemy.

 

[EatTheRich]

The first Rasputin of history was a hard kill.

Grigori Rasputin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's a shame that the (((financial))) gurus who were charged with disemboweling... I mean transitioning Russia did what they did. They could have made a world partner rather than a more-than-lethal, lethal enemy.

The most effective thing Americans can do to hasten the demise of Putin’s regime is supporting Pussy Riot, which is the vanguard of the anti-Putin opposition, and mobilizing to demand amnesty for the jailed members.

 

[God of War]

The most effective thing Americans can do to hasten the demise of Putin’s regime is supporting Pussy Riot, which is the vanguard of the anti-Putin opposition, and mobilizing to demand amnesty for the jailed members.

We should be honest.

Except for the U.S. getting the UN to sanction invading Iraq there is no difference between Putin's invasion of Ukraine and our invasion of Iraq. As a matter of fact that displayed penchant probably informed Putin on his decision in invading UKR. Given a chance he saw NATO invading Russia.

 

[EatTheRich]

We should be honest.

Except for the U.S. getting the UN to sanction invading Iraq there is no difference between Putin's invasion of Ukraine and our invasion of Iraq. As a matter of fact that displayed penchant probably informed Putin on his decision in invading UKR. Given a chance he saw NATO invading Russia.

The UN Security Council (speaking for the UN) sanctioned Desert Storm. Not the invasions of Iraq under Bush and Obama.

 

[God of War]

The UN Security Council (speaking for the UN) sanctioned Desert Storm. Not the invasions of Iraq under Bush and Obama.

So Sec. Powell failed?

I guess I mis-remember. I hope you aren't mis-informing me. ;0)

Regardless, believe it or not, I'm still for having gone into Iraq and killing Saddam and Sons. If we had just left afterwards that would have been a bad ass move. Giving a much better world lesson warning. But only if we hadn't destroyed as much infrastructure as that retard Bush 2 had committed.

Can you imagine if Saddam was still alive? Would we still be on Op. Overwatch in the no fly zones?

 

[EatTheRich]

So Sec. Powell failed?

I guess I mis-remember. I hope you aren't mis-informing me. ;0)

Regardless, believe it or not, I'm still for having gone into Iraq and killing Saddam and Sons. If we had just left afterwards that would have been a bad ass move. Giving a much better world lesson warning. But only if we hadn't destroyed as much infrastructure as that retard Bush 2 had committed.

Can you imagine if Saddam was still alive? Would we still be on Op. Overwatch in the no fly zones?

Bottom line: the empire the U.S. built in the 19th and 20th centuries is crumbling. It finds itself compelled more and more to rely on its still comparatively strong military to displace its greater economic and diplomatic weakness, and to police the world merely to avoid further destabilization of the empire. But this need for war exposes a still more fundamental vulnerability that as with Ancient Rome threatens to undermine the state via the military. Much like Russia (although Russia’s military though still having a relative advantage over Russia’s weaker points is much weaker and subject to insubordination already).

 

[God of War]

Bottom line: the empire the U.S. built in the 19th and 20th centuries is crumbling. It finds itself compelled more and more to rely on its still comparatively strong military to displace its greater economic and diplomatic weakness, and to police the world merely to avoid further destabilization of the empire. But this need for war exposes a still more fundamental vulnerability that as with Ancient Rome threatens to undermine the state via the military. Much like Russia (although Russia’s military though still having a relative advantage over Russia’s weaker points is much weaker and subject to insubordination already).

You're poorly informed. I gave you a link to Peter Zeiihan's thoughts on the matter a long time ago. I feel you blew that off. I'm sorry you did.

 

[EatTheRich]

You're poorly informed. I gave you a link to Peter Zeiihan's thoughts on the matter a long time ago. I feel you blew that off. I'm sorry you did.

Not gonna watch 20 minutes of some rando telling me the opinion he told you to have when I can talk to you, ascertain said opinion and that it is based on a fundamentally ignorant position, and move on in half that time.

 

[God of War]

Not gonna watch 20 minutes of some rando telling me the opinion he told you to have when I can talk to you, ascertain said opinion and that it is based on a fundamentally ignorant position, and move on in half that time.

You ever watch a movie someone recommended? Did you then discuss the merits of the movie? How about a documentary? Discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the positions taken? The arguments?

I guess I see why this forum in general has been unable to do this regarding stuff I've tried to share in these terms. Lack of intellectual curiosity board wide. ;0)

 

[EatTheRich]

You ever watch a movie someone recommended? Did you then discuss the merits of the movie? How about a documentary? Discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the positions taken? The arguments?

I guess I see why this forum in general has been unable to do this regarding stuff I've tried to share in these terms. Lack of intellectual curiosity board wide. ;0)

Read the dozens of books I’ve read on the subjects we’re discussing and tell me with a straight face I’ll learn much from a propaganda video.

 

[God of War]

Read the dozens of books I’ve read on the subjects we’re discussing and tell me with a straight face I’ll learn much from a propaganda video.

All your books were chosen on the basis of confirmation bias.

 

[EatTheRich]

All your books were chosen on the basis of confirmation bias.

Availability heuristic was the bigger source of bias by far. How about your videos though?

 

[Jack4freedom]

The first Rasputin of history was a hard kill.

Grigori Rasputin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's a shame that the (((financial))) gurus who were charged with disemboweling... I meanie transitioning Russia did what they did. They could have made a world partner rather than a more-than-lethal, lethal enemy.

Putin has had every chance to join polite society since he has been in power. He decided at some point to join the crew of thieving oligarchs who arose right after the dismantling of the old USSR instead of representing the people of Russia and helping them become a vital part of the world economy and a successful country on the world stage. Instead of arresting and prosecuting these international criminals Putin joined them for a big piece of the action.

If you would like to educate yourself on this transition there is a great book written by Bill Browder called “Red Notice”. Browder was there in Russia for years during the early transition from communism to free enterprise in Russia. He worked with and had a good relationship with Putin in his early days as leader of Russia. Browder testified under oath before the US Senate Intel Committee in 2017 and enlightened them regarding what has and is transpiring in Russia. Instead of parroting right wing and Trumpist bullshit, it might be a good idea to actually read about what we are dealing with now and for the past 10 years. Good luck and Cheers

 

[God of War]

Instead of parroting right wing and Trumpist bullshit, it might be a good idea to actually read about what we are dealing with now and for the past 10 years. Good luck and Cheers

You got me. You got me good. I was more than halfway through thinking I'd give your post a like. Then I got to the part quoted above. And I thought to myself. This guy can go fvck himself.

 

[God of War]

Availability heuristic was the bigger source of bias by far.

Availability eurestics had nothing to do with unless you mean your daddy's library. And then you'd be just like Booteygig and AllInSky.

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Don't watch it. Zeihan was just on Fox's news show. Good enough for them means shit for you. :0)

 

[Jack4freedom]

You got me. You got me good. I was more than halfway through thinking I'd give your post a like. Then I got to the part quoted above. And I thought to myself. This guy can go fvck himself.

That’s fine, but it would still be a good idea to read the definitive book on the origins of total corruption in Russia today. I read it a few years back and it put a lot of things in perspective for me regarding what we and sadly the Ukrainian people are dealing with right now. Sorry for the snarky remark at the end. Nothing personal....

Red Notice by
Bill Browder

 

[RickWA]

That’s fine, but it would still be a good idea to read the definitive book on the origins of total corruption in Russia today. I read it a few years back and it put a lot of things in perspective for me regarding what we and sadly the Ukrainian people are dealing with right now. Sorry for the snarky remark at the end. Nothing personal....

Red Notice by
Bill Browder

I now interrupt this exchange to note that Jack4 is a good dude. Far too infrequently, we step in across the left/right abyss to attest to the character of folks. Jack, like BD, is a decent person and is one of the rare folks here that actually shares/reveals interesting things about himself rather than filibuster daily party messaging. I often criticize people for having ZERO personality/sense of humor/any semblance of actual human personhood outside of sterile pressing of partisan interests. This forum needs MORE Jacks…and fewer faceless/lifeless drones.

 

[Jack4freedom]

I now interrupt this exchange to note that Jack4 is a good dude. Far too infrequently, we step in across the left/right abyss to attest to the character of folks. Jack, like BD, is a decent person and is one of the rare folks here that actually shares/reveals interesting things about himself rather than filibuster daily party messaging. I often criticize people for having ZERO personality/sense of humor/any semblance of actual human personhood outside of sterile pressing of partisan interests. This forum needs MORE Jacks…and fewer faceless/lifeless drones.

Thanks Rick...Just trying to keep it real as they used to say back in ‘78...lol..