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how to get an abortion doctor killed

Some people opt not to engage the services of doctors who are also abortionists. So some people compose lists.
And killing them was what came to your mind.


You do realize that abortion clinics advertise online, and in print, don't you? Would you think that if a maniac wanted to find one, he'd be able to?


"Idiots", "weirdos" "a-holes" that's just what you said today.......and you told me MY hatefulness was embarrassing my fellow Catholics.
 
I think you're one sick cookie.....but that's just me.

In the U.S., violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eight people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.

March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.

July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before and was also bombed subsequently, in 1984 and 2012.

December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.

January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.

October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York.[10] His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at church in Wichita, Kansas.[11]

Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[12] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[8][13][14]
August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.[15]
January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.

[edit] Arson, bombing, and property crime

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[12] The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.[16] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[17] Incidents have included:
December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."[18][19][20] The clinic, the Ladies Center, would later be the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994 and a firebombing in 2012.
May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.[21]
October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.[22]
May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.[23][24][25] This was the second arson at the clinic.[26]
September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building, who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.[27]
June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.[22][28]
July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.[22]
December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.[29]
September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.[30] Time magazine listed the incident in a "Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots" list.[31]
April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.[32]
May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[33]
December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Altman's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.[34][35]
January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness [36] rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.[37]
January 1, 2012 Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there. The clinic had previously been bombed at Christmas in 1984 and was the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994.[38]

[edit] Anthrax threats

The first hoax letters claiming to contain anthrax were mailed to U.S. clinics in October 1998, a few days after the Slepian shooting; since then, there have been 655 such bioterror threats made against abortion providers. None of the "anthrax" in these cases was real.[13][39]
November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. On December 3, 2003, Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare.
 
And now I'm "one sick cookie" too? Boy that love is just pouring from your every pore, isn't it?


First lets' remember that it's not prolife boyfriends that are beating up and killing their girlfriends who won't get an abortion. Would you like to view a story by a woman who was taken by her boyfriend at gunpoint to her abortion? A story about a boyfriend who beat the crap out of his girlfriend hoping to cause a miscarriage? Maybe some other stories by women, in their own words, about what was done to them when they hesitated to abort?
Do you want to take a look at the charges brought against abortion doctors who have slapped, drugged, tied down and sexually abused patients and cut the spinal cords of their healthy full term babies?
Do you think it's violent to leave a child to die in a bucket? I do. Or to burn a child alive inside his mother over the course of days, in the name of medicine and choice? What about ripping a child apart limb from limb and then crushing his skull? I think all that's pretty violent, too. See, that's the difference. When one of these abortionists is found to be committing horrendous acts against women and babies, you'll view them as the exception, no matter how many stories you hear. When you're faced with the heinous things they do as a course of regular business, in order to get paid for ending a pregnancy, you'll support that but anyone who wants to talk about it is a "sick cookie". But then you'll find about 20 cases of crazies who attacked clinics-going back to the 1970s-and that's your rule for prolife. And the thing is, they did this without that list you're talking about.
Double standard much?
Second, take into consideration that NAF isn't going to tell you about the physical attacks on the persons and property of prolife supporters. They sure didn't send one of their own out to sympathize when my personal information was posted online with a bunch of BS by a pro"choice" mother who was pissed at us because her daughter found alternatives to abortion, or when my and others' homes and cars and centers have been vandalized, while children were inside.

There are crazies on both sides, Julie. If you let the ones on your side speak for you, then I'll do the same here.
 
You mean doctors would have their names posted on-line??

Yikes, what's next? Like people with offices with phone numbers appearing in the on-line yellow pages?? That could only lead to senseless slaughter I'm sure.
 
That's their objective Julie.. the responses you've got here confirm it.

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Cheap and dirty pool, Bo. Very dishonest.

What WE know is that when you guys resort to that tack, you really have nothing else to say. Even your president said, "there are plenty of people of good will on both sides."
I guess he lied, too.
 
And look at the side that's talking about killing abortionists. That's what came to Julie's mind when she read of the list. And she sounds pretty angry.
And the next to bring it up is you, Bo.

But yeah, tell us it's what WE'RE thinking about.

More leftist mindreading.
 
Cheap and dirty pool, Bo. Very dishonest.

What WE know is that when you guys resort to that tack, you really have nothing else to say. Even your president said, "there are plenty of people of good will on both sides."
I guess he lied, too.

There are indeed plenty of good people on both sides gigi. There are also bad actors on both sides. You have no right to post personal information on Doctors who perform abortions OR their clients online or anywhere else.
 
There are indeed plenty of good people on both sides gigi. There are also bad actors on both sides. You have no right to post personal information on Doctors who perform abortions OR their clients online or anywhere else.

Bo, they advertise on line and in print!! They don't worry about the bad actors when they do that. They shouldn't worry about the bad actors. But when they do it, nobody calls them stupid. When a prolife group does it, right away, some assign a motive or predict the "logical" outcome.

The second thing is, for those that don't advertise their name in conjunction with abortion services but will pay to advertise their clinics.....tell the truth. Women have a right to decide whether or not someone who'd just as soon abort their babies is the one making medical-possibly life and death decisions-for them and their babies. A guy who'd pull your child apart if you asked him to maybe isn't the guy you want helping ensure her best health.

Time after time former abortionists have confessed to the fact that they prefer anonymity. They don't cite being afraid of prolifers as the reason, though. They talk about the disconnect between what they do in the clinics, what mistakes they might make, and the fact that keeping it away from their private practices insulates them against complaints and public scrutiny that would affect their standing in the community.
Do you know that typically, the patient at a clinic doesn't meet her abortionist until he comes into the room to do the procedure? And if she's opted for general anesthesia, she may never lay eyes on him or her at all. We have had to tell them that they have the RIGHT to know the abortionists name ahead of time.

Further, there are clinics run by doctors who have had their medical licenses suspended, or have committed such errors and events of poor judgement that they can only operate under the supervision of another doctor, willing to sign off for them. That doesn't mean these supervising docs are in the OR with them. It just means they paid them a fee for the use of their names. There are also doctors running clinics and per diem working at clinics that have had their hospital priveleges stripped. Wouldn't you want to know if your wife or daughter was about to be operated on by one of these? They're certainly not going to offer this info.
 
As far as patients' names being public, I agree with you. The article said "it could" come to that. But not how. I don't see how it can.
 
Can you please link me to an ad by a specific US abortion doctor (not just a clinic for women such as Planned Parenthood).

I'll wait here with bells on. ;~)
 
Can you please link me to an ad by a specific US abortion doctor (not just a clinic for women such as Planned Parenthood).

I'll wait here with bells on. ;~)

Bo, I'll be happy to look for you. But you're proving the exact thing I'm telling you!

They'll advertise clinics but they don't want their names in the ads. However, according to Julie's post of yesterday, clinics have been targeted for violence by those bad actors we discussed. We know that this has happened. And all without doc's names listed. But all with the presence of clinic name, address and business hours ADVERTISED in print and online.

My point is...while doctors have no problem telling you where to meet them for the abortion, and, according to those of you who think we're all looking to blow them up...where to set the bomb, they don't want their names out there.....because it interferes with their other life.

But why aren't you asking to see any documentation from former abortionists discussing why they prefer the anonymity?


Where else in medicine do you see people outraged by an online list of providers? Where else in medicine is it okay if you aren't encouraged to meet with the surgeon BEFORE the moment of surgery?

If a girl or woman you love is about to have an abortion, would you want the opportunity to know the professional history of the abortionist?

Why don't you do an experiment if you want to and find the spare time....
Pull out your yellowpages and comb through the quarter page and eighth of a page ads for OB/gyn offices, dentists, gastroenterology practices, etc...Note that there will be doctors' names in the ads.
Then look at abortion clinic ads. See how many doctors' names you find in the ads.

Then go look at just the name and phone listings under topic headings. Under other medical specialties, you'll find docs' names listed. Under abortion, you'll only find clinic names.

Again, no fear in giving the nutcases the address of where to find them. But no names, please. Why?
 
the abortion doctors and clinics have been targeted and continue to be targeted by those who want to cause them harm/death. which side are you on?
 
I wouldn't put my name in an ad for my abortion clinic either. Apparently YOU think they should so that idiots with signs depicting bloody fetuses can hang out at the end of their driveways on weekends.
 
And look at the side that's talking about killing abortionists. That's what came to Julie's mind when she read of the list. And she sounds pretty angry.
And the next to bring it up is you, Bo.

But yeah, tell us it's what WE'RE thinking about.

More leftist mindreading.

I don't know what you personally are thinking about gigi.. but i do know what Scott Roeder was thinking about, for YEARS.
 
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