I keep reading about a cool July

[Mytzlplk]

from flat earthers that simply can't seem to wrap their minds around the fact that "global" means global, and whatever shack they're living in is experiencing regional/local temps, precipitation, etc.

Can I ask what bizness people that can't even gain a command of basic definitions have thinking that their opinion regarding the topic of AGW has any merit? It's like their ignorance is at least equal to if not something that can trump knowledge or something, ain't it?

July Adds To Globe’s String of 341 Warm Months

• Published: August 20th, 2013 , Last Updated: August 20th, 2013

By Andrew Freedman
The year-to-date has been the sixth warmest on record globally, and July was also the sixth warmest such month since global surface temperature records first began in 1880, according to new data released on Tuesday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The figures show that July 2013 was the 37th straight July, and the 341st straight month, with warmer-than-average global temperatures — a more than 28-year timespan that reflects the significant warming observed worldwide since the 1970s.

That means that no one under the age of 28 has ever experienced a month in which global average surface temperatures were cooler than average (based on the 20th century average).

Leaked drafts of a forthcoming report from the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations-sponsored group of scientists tasked with assessing the scientific evidence on climate change, show that the group is likely to more conclusively tie this warming to manmade greenhouse gas emissions, compared to the group’s last major assessment in 2007. http://www.climatecentral.org/news/july-adds-to-globes-unbroken-string-of-warm-months-16360​

 

[justoffal]

I keep reading from the Lysenkoists that we should already be past the point of no return and that our current c02 concentrations are irreversibly damaging. So now that China is increasing their co2 output by hundreds of thousands of tons per month...what shall we do Trovin?

Additionaly ubran temperature readings have already been debunked as useless due to the effect of heat pooling caused by city structures and Road covering.

More conclusive proof? Bwahahahah......I can't wait to see that.

Um....

Just more AGW bullshit from the Lysenkoists.

JO

 

[Mytzlplk]

as the reader can see the poor flat earther has no rebuttal/refutation of the facts, since thermometers don't lie, and merely continues to polish a turd that the most recent Berkeley study did debunk.

Berkeley Earth also has carefully studied issues raised by skeptics, such as possible biases from urban heating, data selection, poor station quality, and data adjustment. We have demonstrated that these do not unduly bias the results. http://berkeleyearth.org/summary-of-findings

The team's preliminary findings, data sets and programs were made available to the public in October 2011, and their results have been published as peer-reviewed scientific papers beginning in December 2012.[7][8][9] The study addressed scientific concerns raised by skeptics including urban heat island effect, poor station quality, and the risk of data selection bias. The Berkeley Earth group concluded that the warming trend is real, that over the past 50 years (between the decades of the 1950s and 2000s) the land surface warmed by 0.91±0.05°C, and their results mirrors those obtained from earlier studies carried out by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the Hadley Centre, NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) Surface Temperature Analysis, and the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia. The study also found that the urban heat island effect and poor station quality did not bias the results obtained from these earlier studies.[10][11][12][13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Earth_Surface_Temperature
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but hey, some of them are quite Linus-like the way they stupidly cling to some of their fav turds

 

[Dawg]

coolest july & august I can remember, ever..............

Gorebal Cooling...is that why?

 

[Dawg]

but hey, some of them are quite Linus-like the way they stupidly cling to some of their fav turds[/quote]

liberal hypocrisy at it's finest

who is the turd polisher.....................look at the [/quote]

 

[Mytzlplk]

I see I had another acutely stupid flat earther that admits it can't understand the diff between regional/local, and the "global" in global warming.

I sure love it when they help make my case/validate it for me.

 

[Number_58]

I'm willing to entertain any study where all evidence and all variables are used to reach the study's conclusion. Unfortunately, in all of this Global Warming "science" the scientists themselves have proven they can't be honest in their findings. The omission of certain variables that cause problems with the findings they wish to show destroys any validation of the study.

Having taken several courses that required labs to prove or disprove certain hypotheses, we were warned at the beginning of the courses that removal of variables effecting the outcome of the experiment would result in failure for that particular test.

It's well known and documented that several variables effecting the findings these scientists wanted were omitted from this "study". If they want me to consider what they have to say, they should at least be honest with their information.

 

[Dawg]

I see I had another acutely stupid flat earther that admits it can't understand the diff between regional/local, and the "global" in global warming.

I sure love it when they help make my case/validate it for me.

just trying to keep ya from bumping ya top post.........guess ya feel like an island usually......no.

 

[Mytzlplk]

my my, we have yet another flat earther making baseless claims while as is customary, providing no foundation for (other than fact/evidence-free claims) or evidence of them. This is of course particularly amusing given the nature of their criticism -- charges of lies by omission that negatively impact credibility.

as always, the flat earther crowd provides some pretty amusing stuff, but never any relevant rebuttals. What "variables" there could possibly be associated with taking temps, much less that in any way undermine those temp records, have already been repeatedly and extensively addressed, and rejected, as the linked to material above makes clear.

if they can't understand that, well, they have no bizness in the debate.

 

[Number_58]

A simple internet search of omissions that have taken place in the Global Warming "science" would revel to you what you ask me to provide. Seems to me it's much more foolish to trust in an assertion where it's proven relevant facts have not been included in the research than to ask for a comprehensive study that includes all the data.

I was the one that said I would entertain the findings if all data were included to back their findings...you on the other hand are perfectly comfortable with buying into incomplete information...and I'm called the flat earther...that is humorous.

The flat earthers were those content on believing what they were told without access to all the information available...that would describe you rather than me. Seems you have more in common with the early Catholic Church followers than you would care to admit.

 

[Mytzlplk]

A simple internet search of omissions that have taken place in the Global Warming "science" would revel to you what you ask me to provide. Seems to me it's much more foolish to trust in an assertion where it's proven relevant facts have not been included in the research than to ask for a comprehensive study that includes all the data.

I was the one that said I would entertain the findings if all data were included to back their findings...you on the other hand are perfectly comfortable with buying into incomplete information...and I'm called the flat earther...that is humorous.

The flat earthers were those content on believing what they were told without access to all the information available...that would describe you rather than me. Seems you have more in common with the early Catholic Church followers than you would care to admit.

ah shut up ya ignorant liar.

it's rather clear ya got nothing but at best, BS that has likely been molding for years now, and which is most likely associated with the most stupid conspiracy ever known as climategate.

 

[ITALIA]

I'm willing to entertain any study where all evidence and all variables are used to reach the study's conclusion. Unfortunately, in all of this Global Warming "science" the scientists themselves have proven they can't be honest in their findings. The omission of certain variables that cause problems with the findings they wish to show destroys any validation of the study.

Having taken several courses that required labs to prove or disprove certain hypotheses, we were warned at the beginning of the courses that removal of variables effecting the outcome of the experiment would result in failure for that particular test.

It's well known and documented that several variables effecting the findings these scientists wanted were omitted from this "study". If they want me to consider what they have to say, they should at least be honest with their information.

Is this one of those variables?

http://news.yahoo.com/science-points-global-warming-source-sea-172049290.html

 

[Mytzlplk]

there's not a single thing these clowns can post that likely hasn't been debunked to high heaven already, which is why I'm supposed to be looking up "hidden" variables he can't even specify, and which I'm supposed to look up without that specificity.

they obviously don't even know what the necessary elements of a valid argument are, yet think themselves able to "debate"