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I was one of those who could have used ACA to retire early

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IndependentinWis

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I retired from my "job" at 57 and my employer provided me health insurance for the first year after I retired. At that point I applied to Blue Cross-Blue Shield for health insurance and was turned down not because I had health problems, but because my father died early of heart problems. I was told by Blue Cross-Blue Shield that I would be turned down from every other provider because of my pre-existing condition. So I had to go get a part time job that provided health insurance. The job I applied for was close to being the my field so I got the job and the insurance. I found out at the time that 30 others had applied for the job, most of whom were in the same condition I was, wanting to retire but couldn't buy health insurance. And that is what the two million people who want to retire or cut their hours can now do so because of ACA and that is what the CBO is talking about.
 
bdtex said:
People who save and invest wisely can
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Absolutely. However, you have to keep in mind we're talking about Obama voters here. To think more than a minute percentage of them are either bright enough or have enough work ethic or are frugal enough to do so is unrealistic.
 
not being locked into a job you don't want or need AND be able to get health insurance is FREEDOM. rightwing think tanks have long talked about separating health coverage from employment for that exact reason. the ACA is building the infrastructure for that movement to decouple health care from employment. in addition, we have the experiment with single-payer in a couple of states. we know how that worked out in Canada....one province after another switched over.
 
drivebyheckler said:
Absolutely. However, you have to keep in mind we're talking about Obama voters here. To think more than a minute percentage of them are either bright enough or have enough work ethic or are frugal enough to do so is unrealistic.
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You'd be surprised my friend. I'm 55 and in pretty good shape to retire within the next 7 years with a pretty good retirement. Got lots of conservative,GWB/McCain/Romney voter friends in their 40's and 50's who have no retirement savings.
 
IndependentinWis said:
I retired from my "job" at 57 and my employer provided me health insurance for the first year after I retired. At that point I applied to Blue Cross-Blue Shield for health insurance and was turned down not because I had health problems, but because my father died early of heart problems. I was told by Blue Cross-Blue Shield that I would be turned down from every other provider because of my pre-existing condition. So I had to go get a part time job that provided health insurance. The job I applied for was close to being the my field so I got the job and the insurance. I found out at the time that 30 others had applied for the job, most of whom were in the same condition I was, wanting to retire but couldn't buy health insurance. And that is what the two million people who want to retire or cut their hours can now do so because of ACA and that is what the CBO is talking about.
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Mr. Indy,

You retired at 57? Mind if I asked which government agency you worked for.
 
bdtex said:
You'd be surprised my friend. I'm 55 and in pretty good shape to retire within the next 7 years with a pretty good retirement. Got lots of conservative,GWB/McCain/Romney voter friends in their 40's and 50's who have no retirement savings.
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Oh I believe you. While you're politically a lunatic, anyone can see you've got a good head on your shoulders. I'm not surprised you're in good shape.

However, when one looks at the entitlement mentality in our country, especially in the left half, it would be difficult for me to believe that that is the half more conscious of saving, holding no debt, planning for retirement, etc.

I hope to be in your position at your age. I'm not quite 50. It was just last month we paid our house off- in 15 years total. We have no car or other loan payments other than about $30,000 in student loans for my flight training. We have rental properties paid for in cash, well into six figures in various retirement accounts and a decent emergency fund. I completely understand that securing one's future transcends political mentality. I know plenty of "conservatives" who'd rather have that nice boat they hardly use than skimp on things, suck it up and sock money away.

But surely you don't expect me to not use this topic to attack liberals, right? ;)
 
JuliefromOhio said:
not being locked into a job you don't want or need AND be able to get health insurance is FREEDOM. rightwing think tanks have long talked about separating health coverage from employment for that exact reason. the ACA is building the infrastructure for that movement to decouple health care from employment. in addition, we have the experiment with single-payer in a couple of states. we know how that worked out in Canada....one province after another switched over.
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Poor Julie.... still doesn't understand the difference between FREEDOM and FREE STUFF. One can only hope someone like you will move beyond neanderthal thinking.
 
ya-ta-hey said:
Mr. Indy,

You retired at 57? Mind if I asked which government agency you worked for.
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If he was working for the Government he wouldn't have been given one year of health insurance. The Government couldn't do that but if he was Government he would have likely retired with health insurance.
 
ITALIA said:
If he was working for the Government he wouldn't have been given one year of health insurance. The Government couldn't do that but if he was Government he would have likely retired with health insurance.
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Mr. Italia,

True, government employees do tend to continue draining the system dry well after they leave the building.
 
57 ????

You wanted to retire at 57?.....but your pension plan or whatever it was you were retiring on wasn't sufficient so government was the solution!

Got it!

Not to worry though or feel any guilt about it, there are 20 somethings, and 30 somethings that are retired on the goverment's teat for the second or third generation

Disclaimer.....I retired at 47 after selling the business I built from scratch that Obama said I didn't build at all.
 
Boca said:
57 ????

You wanted to retire at 57?.....but your pension plan or whatever it was you were retiring on wasn't sufficient so government was the solution!

Got it!

Not to worry though or feel any guilt about it, there are 20 somethings, and 30 somethings that are retired on the goverment's teat for the second or third generation

Disclaimer.....I retired at 47 after selling the business I built from scratch that Obama said I didn't build at all.
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Where did he say government was the solution? He only got the part time job for the health insurance not to live on. What 20 or 30 somethings retiring for second or third generations? You making up shit? And you still saying that lie about what Obama said about who built the roads and infrastructure that enabled you to succeed in your business? Shame.
 
drivebyheckler said:
Oh I believe you. While you're politically a lunatic, anyone can see you've got a good head on your shoulders. I'm not surprised you're in good shape.

However, when one looks at the entitlement mentality in our country, especially in the left half, it would be difficult for me to believe that that is the half more conscious of saving, holding no debt, planning for retirement, etc.

I hope to be in your position at your age. I'm not quite 50. It was just last month we paid our house off- in 15 years total. We have no car or other loan payments other than about $30,000 in student loans for my flight training. We have rental properties paid for in cash, well into six figures in various retirement accounts and a decent emergency fund. I completely understand that securing one's future transcends political mentality. I know plenty of "conservatives" who'd rather have that nice boat they hardly use than skimp on things, suck it up and sock money away.

But surely you don't expect me to not use this topic to attack liberals, right? ;)
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You joined this forum January 3,2014? Thought you'd been here longer than that,just hadn't been here in awhile. What a coincidence. I think you're politically a lunatic.:cool:
 
IndependentinWis said:
I retired from my "job" at 57 and my employer provided me health insurance for the first year after I retired. At that point I applied to Blue Cross-Blue Shield for health insurance and was turned down not because I had health problems, but because my father died early of heart problems. I was told by Blue Cross-Blue Shield that I would be turned down from every other provider because of my pre-existing condition. So I had to go get a part time job that provided health insurance. The job I applied for was close to being the my field so I got the job and the insurance. I found out at the time that 30 others had applied for the job, most of whom were in the same condition I was, wanting to retire but couldn't buy health insurance. And that is what the two million people who want to retire or cut their hours can now do so because of ACA and that is what the CBO is talking about.
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total BS
my gawd
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JuliefromOhio said:
not being locked into a job you don't want or need AND be able to get health insurance is FREEDOM. rightwing think tanks have long talked about separating health coverage from employment for that exact reason. the ACA is building the infrastructure for that movement to decouple health care from employment. in addition, we have the experiment with single-payer in a couple of states. we know how that worked out in Canada....one province after another switched over.
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How's that Medicare working out for ya Jules____________?
or is it caid
 
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