ObamacareForever
Senator
I said Trump would never get a penny for a wall, I discounted the fact that consitution is meaningless document and the president can just steal money that congress didn't give him.
I was wrong
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And still wrong. these Powers were ceded to the president and the executive branch by the Congress. remember all those times were people said somebody ought to read those omnibus bills and all the clauses hidden there in?
The Congress itself ceded these powers to the executive long ago
https://www.lawfareblog.com/how-congress-and-president-obama-made-trumps-wall-possible
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Your ignorance of how money can be appropriated is no excuse.
UPNYA2
Mayor
I would be forced to vote for YOU as the single most honest and open poster on PJ if each and every post from you consisted of ONLY the words in the title of your top post here...………
One can only dream...…………...
MrMike
Bless you all
He lost a bet with me whereas he claimed Trump would not get one penny for the wall and I bet him that he would get money. Whoever lost that bet would have to do a "I was wrong" top post. I guess this is his best effort to do so and try to save face by including a bit of spin. I will at least give him an E for effort!
llovejim
Current Champion
obama had something to do with it? wow...the president has always had the authority to declare a national emergency, as Commander in Chief, and to order funding to cover catastrophic emergencies, until Congress can appropriate funding, and the like, and that had nothing to do with Obama. why do so many right wing sources always try to tie either clinton or obama to what all other presidents also did if they are trying to defend Trump?
What makes this phony emergency, crisis, invaders at the border scenario different is that Trump went to Congress many times, even when republicans had both houses, asked for huge funding for the wall, after he lied about Mexico paying for it, and for political reasons, even the republicans did not fund such a wall for the two years they controlled congress...and then, when the elections came near, trump needed to stoke his base, to divide the country more, to rile up his bigots, so he started border bullshit. INVADERS!! EMERGENCY!! WARNING, WILL ROBINSON!! CARAVANS OF POOR WOMEN AND KIDS WALKING SLOWLY TOWARDS US TO LEGALLY APPLY FOR ASYLUM...BUILD THE WALL, PRONTO, OR WE ARE DOOMED!! DOOMED, I SAY!!
but even then only the dumbest trump voters and the most gutless republican politicians fell for that crap, and he still did not get the funding...SO THEN, AFTER TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A YEAR OR SO, HE THEN SAID IT WAS AN EMERGENCY TO BUILD THE WALL, AND HE WOULD USE FUNDING FOR THAT EMERGENCY, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME SAYING HE DID NOT HAVE TO CALL IT AN EMERGENCY!! Trump is so fundamentally stupid he squealed on himself by admitting the whole emergency bullshit was just a way to go around the fact Congress would not fund his stupid shit wall the way he wanted. period.
No other president has so clearly, and so clumsily, and so dishonestly went around the funding duties of Congress as laid out by the Constitution by just declaring an emergency when there was not one and a freaking wall would not have changed anything.
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Trump accidentally admits there's no actual emergency at the border ...
https://www.vox.com/policy-and.../1/9/.../trump-national-emergency-border-politics
Jan 9, 2019 - President Donald Trump inadvertently admitted the emergency ... on the southern borderis all about politics on Wednesday, saying it's “the people that are ... “I have the absolute right to do national emergency if I want,” Trump added. ... than $5 billion in wall funding be included in a government funding bill.
Trump just declared a national emergency at the border - Vox
https://www.vox.com/policy-and.../trump-national-emergency-border-wall-speech
Feb 15, 2019 - There's no major emergency at the border. Trump is declaring one ... The short answer is that Trump doesn't want to admit he lost. He's already ...
Donald Trump Admits, 'I Didn't Need to' Declare a National Emergency ...
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-didnt-need-national-emergency-1333194
Feb 15, 2019 - "I was successful, in that sense, but I want to do it faster," he said. ... barrier on the U.S.-Mexico border without funding approval from Congress.
'I didn't need to do this': Trump just kneecapped his own case for a ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../i-didnt-need-do-this-trump-just-kneecapped-his-ow...
Feb 15, 2019 - Trump says he 'didn't need' to declare emergency for wall ... admitted he doesn't even really see the situation at the border as an emergency. ... for Democrats not supporting wall and repeated: "I just want to do it faster.” ... emergency out there as an alternative if Congress didn't fund the wall .... No Thanks.
Trump says he didn't need to declare national emergency for border wall
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-didnt-need-declare-national-emergency-...
Feb 15, 2019 - President Donald Trump declaring a national emergency at the US-Mexico border. ... a national emergency to obtain funding for a wall along the US-Mexico border. ... "I just want to get it done faster, that's all," Trump added.
UPNYA2
Mayor
Do you honestly never tire of presenting everyone with evidence that you are, literally, a walking, talking, propaganda machine for American dems/libs today?
Earlier you posted, "I said Trump would never get a penny for a wall, I discounted the fact that consitution is meaningless document and the president can just steal money that congress didn't give him."
Now concentrate, (ok, ok, just TRY...…), on the bolded words a moment...……
Yet here, in this post in the same damned thread you stated, "...the president has always had the authority to declare a national emergency, as Commander in Chief, and to order funding to cover catastrophic emergencies, until Congress can appropriate funding, and the like,"
As well as, " that had nothing to do with Obama. why do so many right wing sources always try to tie either clinton or obama to what all other presidents also did if they are trying to defend Trump?"
If, as YOU say, "all other Presidents" have done it, why is it you ONLY refer to the President acting as if "the constitution is a meaningless document" and that the President is "stealing money", when that President is Trump?
Not Clinton, not obami, not ANY other President whom you sat did exactly the same thing?
What a partisan, political hack. You could AT LEAST try to maintain some fake manner of a consistent moral core.
Damn.
He lost a bet with me whereas he claimed Trump would not get one penny for the wall and I bet him that he would get money. Whoever lost that bet would have to do a "I was wrong" top post. I guess this is his best effort to do so and try to save face by including a bit of spin. I will at least give him an E for effort!
evidently Jim disagrees with honesty how stupi
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Winston
Do you feel lucky, Punk
If Trump stole money please arrest now
redtide
Mayor
HOw did you forget that? I ask because the lawn jockey did that when he imposed the ACA upon US and stole the health insurance of many.
EatTheRich
President
I’ll ignore your racial slur to focus on the fact that Congress passed the ACA.
resident_evil
Senator
You don't know the constitution. You've been slapped with it here on PJ time and again and you couldn't identify it. Rich of you to bring it up now and use it inappropriately. ha ha
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Bugsy McGurk
President
You and millions of other sane, patriotic Americans did not foresee that Trump would act in his completely lawless fashion, or that his GOP lackeys in Congress and his rabble would just go along with the lawlessness.
But that’s where we are. Who wudda thunk it?
redtide
Mayor
Rent seeking is in no way patriotic, SPIN AGAIN
Drumcollie
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So lefty does hate the constitution. Proof.
Drumcollie
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And millions were right as the left's certainty of collusion turned out to be a lie. How odd is it after knowing that you lied, with another election looming and you having horrible candidates, the leader of them, known as "Creepy Uncle Joe" and "Gropin' Joe" that you would take the same line of lying. Thank you in advance of Trumps next victory. I thank you and my retirement thanks you.
So who wudda thunk it? Obviously you did. You fabricated this whole thing huh or did your caucus tell you to say this a 25 cents per click.
Drumcollie
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Which was a bad deal. I am on it and I lost my plan, could not keep my plan and every year under Obama I signed up for Obamacare and got kicked off.
Drumcollie
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They all do it!
Drumcollie
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What Happened to the $2.6 Trillion Social Security Trust Fund?
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Jul 13, 2011 · Here’s why: Social Security has a trust fund, and that trust fund is supposed to have $2.6 trillion in it, according to the Social Security trustees. If there are real assets in the trust fund ...
Oops they all do it...Democrats just take more.
https://www.forbes.com/.../13/what-happened-to-the-2-6-trillion-social-security-trust-fund
Jul 13, 2011 · Here’s why: Social Security has a trust fund, and that trust fund is supposed to have $2.6 trillion in it, according to the Social Security trustees. If there are real assets in the trust fund ...
Oops they all do it...Democrats just take more.
Winston
Do you feel lucky, Punk
It went to illegals
