Interesting development

[Colorforms]

66% of New York state coronavirus hospitalizations are people staying at HOME and NOT essential workers - which begs question: Does lockdown even work?

66% of New York coronavirus hospitalizations are people at HOME

In a study of some 1,000 new patients over the last week, 66 percent were not essential workers and were staying at home. More than 80 percent had not taken any public transport.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This would, of course, put into question if the destruction of the economy by governors ordering massive shut downs was entirely unnecessary.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

You'll get crickets from the lefties on this.

 

[resident_evil]

66% of New York state coronavirus hospitalizations are people staying at HOME and NOT essential workers - which begs question: Does lockdown even work?

66% of New York coronavirus hospitalizations are people at HOME

In a study of some 1,000 new patients over the last week, 66 percent were not essential workers and were staying at home. More than 80 percent had not taken any public transport.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This would, of course, put into question if the destruction of the economy by governors ordering massive shut downs was entirely unnecessary.

I really find this worrisome in some ways. I believe quarantines, masks, distance, and washing hands work. Except I find my own family not as capable in practicing these things well or consistently (and yet far better than most).

 

[RickWA]

You'll get crickets from the lefties on this.

...or lies. By omission and commission - lefty invariably lies.

 

[Colorforms]

You'll get crickets from the lefties on this.

From Cuomo's own stats. It's hard to argue that all of this damage was worth it.

 

[RickWA]

I really find this worrisome in some ways. I believe quarantines, masks, distance, and washing hands work. Except I find my own family not as capable in practicing these things well or consistently (and yet far better than most).

Sooner or later, most of us will get this. Many of us have probably already had it and chalked it up to regular seasonal illness. Viruses don’t just vanish - and hanging around in our homes waiting it out is stupid policy - once the actual curve was flattened. This should NEVER have been allowed to go beyond four weeks for the healthy among us.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

66% of New York state coronavirus hospitalizations are people staying at HOME and NOT essential workers - which begs question: Does lockdown even work?

66% of New York coronavirus hospitalizations are people at HOME

In a study of some 1,000 new patients over the last week, 66 percent were not essential workers and were staying at home. More than 80 percent had not taken any public transport.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This would, of course, put into question if the destruction of the economy by governors ordering massive shut downs was entirely unnecessary.

66% of hospitalizations are people staying at home?

Based upon that incoherent sentence you conclude that mitigation doesn’t work?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

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I feel sorry for you if you think it makes sense to say that 66% of hospitalizations are people staying at home.

But I doubt your mind is that fried. More likely is that you just can’t resist the urge to ditto with your fellow Trump cultists.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

From Cuomo's own stats. It's hard to argue that all of this damage was worth it.

Impossible, actually. They didn't protect the nursing and personal care home residents who have died in droves. They sent everybody home to stop the spread, and they STILL got the disease. You can't be a bigger failure than that.

 

[RickWA]

I feel sorry for you if you think it makes sense to say that 66% of hospitalizations are people staying at home.

But I doubt your mind is that fried. More likely is that you just can’t resist the urge to ditto with your fellow Trump cultists.

Actually, whether or not one concurs with that particular study/sampling...the fact remains that the OP’s contention was perfectly understandable - and yet you trolled it as usual.

Yawn.

 

[resident_evil]

This should NEVER have been allowed to go beyond four weeks for the healthy among us.

14 days (21 max) for the quaranine to try and establish a testing and contact tracing regime once the epidemic has broken out. Masks and distance for a reasonable time thereafter by mandate for businesses interested in keeping their business license. And for me a mask whenever I damn well please out of the 365.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Actually, whether or not one concurs with that particular study/sampling...the fact remains that the OP’s contention was perfectly understandable - and yet you trolled it as usual.

Yawn.

Absurd. I can’t even tell what the contention is. Is it that mitigation does not work to reduce the spread? You want me to note the obvious and say that’s insane?

OK, I said it.

;-)

 

[RickWA]

14 days (21 max) for the quaranine to try and establish a testing and contact tracing regime once the epidemic has broken out. Masks and distance for a reasonable time thereafter by mandate for businesses interested in keeping their business license. And for me a mask whenever I damn well please out of the 365.

Ok by me.

 

[Colorforms]

66% of hospitalizations are people staying at home?

Based upon that incoherent sentence you conclude that mitigation doesn’t work?

Didn't seem that hard.

 

[Colorforms]

I feel sorry for you if you think it makes sense to say that 66% of hospitalizations are people staying at home.

But I doubt your mind is that fried. More likely is that you just can’t resist the urge to ditto with your fellow Trump cultists.

You feel sorry for Cuomo?
http://unfurl=true]https://www.nyda.../www.nydailynews.com/arcio/rss/category/news/']www.nydailynews.com/arcio/rss/category/news/[/URL][/URL]
The governor said it was “shocking" that 66% of new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who are either retired or unemployed and not commuting to work on a regular basis.
The statistic comes from a preliminary survey of 113 hospitals, done over three days, that included 1,269 responses as the state seeks more information about how COVID-19 spreads.
According to the data, 18% of new cases came from nursing homes, 4% from assisted-living facilities, 2% from congregate-care facilities, 2% were homeless, less than 1% from prisons and 8% were marked as “other."

 

[Spamature]

66% of New York state coronavirus hospitalizations are people staying at HOME and NOT essential workers - which begs question: Does lockdown even work?

66% of New York coronavirus hospitalizations are people at HOME

In a study of some 1,000 new patients over the last week, 66 percent were not essential workers and were staying at home. More than 80 percent had not taken any public transport.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This would, of course, put into question if the destruction of the economy by governors ordering massive shut downs was entirely unnecessary.

And exactly what do you think is the ratio among the population of people who stayed at home vs essential workers ?

 

[Colorforms]

And exactly what do you think is the ratio among the population of people who stayed at home vs essential workers ?

According to the data, 18% of new cases came from nursing homes, 4% from assisted-living facilities, 2% from congregate-care facilities, 2% were homeless, less than 1% from prisons and 8% were marked as “other."

I assume this is patients and care givers since they don't differentiate.

 

[Spamature]

According to the data, 18% of new cases came from nursing homes, 4% from assisted-living facilities, 2% from congregate-care facilities, 2% were homeless, less than 1% from prisons and 8% were marked as “other."

I assume this is patients and care givers since they don't differentiate.

So what is the percentage of people who had to continue to go to work or their relatives vs people who sheltered at home (not in a nursing home, or care facility because there will always be a continuous stream of people from the outside entering those facilities ).

What you are hinting at without saying is that the mitigation efforts didn't work and carrying on as usual would have had the same results.

So let's get beyond the hinting and look at the actual numbers and ratios.

 

[Colorforms]

So what is the percentage of people who had to continue to go to work or their relatives vs people who sheltered at home (not in a nursing home, or care facility).

Because what you are hinting at without saying is the mitigation efforts didn't work and carrying on as usual would have had the same results.

So let's get beyond the hinting and look at the actual numbers and ratios.

I gave you 2 links and all the stats I had available. If you find any stats in there that I didn't supply, feel free to use them.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

And exactly what do you think is the ratio among the population of people who stayed at home vs essential workers ?

Roughly the same, perhaps a little higher for those made to "stay home."