It'a Official! Obama Lost the Chess Game With Putin

[AIL]

Short sweet and to the point.. Best analgises of the two UN speeches. Putin won I agree.

It'a Official! Obama Lost the Chess Game With Putin


Hark! Hearest thou yonder sound? It is the sound of the United States government becoming OBSOLETE in the Middle East! Check out the news. See that? Now IRAQ is going to cooperate with Russia, Syria, and Iran to defeat ISIS over in Syria. HA HA HA! How do ya like THEM apples, Obama!? Hey, you can’t say I didn’t warn you. I said this could happen last week right here on Lew Rockwell when I said “Iraq might just join the party, too”.

First, Putin went to the UN and rightfully gave the United States a good, swift kick in the keester it has needed for a long time now in regards to this whole “Let’s arm the Syrian moderates!” shindig: “Instead of the triumph of democracy and progress, we got violence, poverty and social disaster — and nobody cares a bit about human rights, including the right to life,” Putin said. “I cannot help asking those who have forced that situation: Do you realize what you have done?” Uncle Sam is still rubbing his sore keester from that truth-spanking.

So, now we know Russia, Iran, and Syria are all cooperating and now we also know Iraq HAS, in fact, joined the party! Gosh, and the poor United States now feels left out. Aww…Uncle Sammy wasn’t invited to the party? Now Obama and Kerry have been scrambling, trying to talk to Iran about Syria and Yemen. Iran probably feels like Kerry is trying to invite himself to the soiree and use the old “Iran invited me!” shtick to crash the party. Now here goes Obama saying, “Oh, um, well, we want to cooperate with Russia! Seriously! But, Assad still needs to go, you guys!” Yeah, still trying to save face after all this time, even though there’s egg all over it. Give it up, clowns. You just got outflanked. You lost this chess game for keeps.

The U.S. has NOTHING to show for its efforts with Ye Olde Syrian Moderates that were going to get rid of ISIS and Assad both. A $500 million Pentagon program was supposed to train and equip more than 5,000 fighters, so they said. But what did SecDef Ash Carter tell us? A year later, they had FIFTY guys at the most! Then two weeks ago, it was admitted there were only five left AND their leader defected to al-Qaida and took all the weapons with him. Wow, great work guys! Did they give two weeks notice to HR, or was it just a shock to you? That was a swell use of $500 million American taxpayer dollars! And how come none of those airstrikes ever bore fruit? The Iranians pulled off successful airstrikes using cobbled-together F-4 Phantoms older than some Americans’ grand-dads! Probably because the U.S. airstrikes were dropping bombs on empty desert to look busy. “Hey you guys, look busy! Drop bombs on something!” “What should we bomb, sir?” “How should I know?! I’m going golfing with the president! Now get busy!”

Of course Obama is still sticking to this failed policy of trying to topple Assad even after Putin has thoroughly humiliated him in this chess game. Obama is whining over Assad STILL! You’d think Assad picked on Obama in high school or something! It’s like Obama is sitting there looking at all his chess pieces that got captured by Putin and saying, “Hey! No fair! Do over! I wasn’t looking when you put my king into check there!” Pssst! Hey Obama! Ya might wanna quit while, well, not while you’re ahead, because you’re not. But quit before it gets worse and maybe other countries join Russia because they see the U.S. is incompetent at best and dangerously foolish at worst. As in: Plays with fire kind of dangerously foolish. Iraq was “our guy” and now they just said they found a better deal with Russia. So underneath all of that probably lies a secret—for right now—military alliance between Russia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq. You can be sure the Saudis are already sweating not bullets, but ballistic missiles, as I said in my previous article.

Ahhh…the sweet smell of the fall of the American empire! It smells like…hilarity. For all of thinking it knew best, it sure fell for that one, eyes wide open. Last week, Obama was confident he’d control the talks and make it about Ukraine. Putin said no. It’ll be about Syria. And how! The U.S. just became obsolete in the Middle East. And, what, the Saudis are still our guys? So what! They’re in the hotseat with the rest of the Muslim world over that Hajj stampede. They’re getting sued in international court by Iran. Not to mention lots of people in the Middle East are rather angry about Saudi imperialism in Yemen. The rest of the Arab Gulf States will probably be watching close to see who they want to back in the future. I doubt it will be the United States and Saudi Arabia. The vacuum of people leaving that room will cause whirlwinds all over that region.

So, hey Obama, there’s your legacy! Please, stop whining. You lost a chess match with Putin. That’s what you get for listening to people in the Pentagon who thought it was a tiddlywinks tournament. Say, anyone up for a game of chess? The United States government sure wasn’t.

 

[LanceFreeman]

Truth is, the United States wasn't meant to win anything in Syria, Iraq, or anywhere else. The objective for the U.S. was two-fold:

(1) to destroy the region from North Africa to Iran, so that no 'threat' to Israel can exist, to destroy any vestige of Arab pride or accomplishment, to engender hatred for Muslims through fake terror (ISIS), and to clear land for Israel in Syria, so that Israel can later occupy it for more settlements.

(2) to deplete America's considerable wealth and resources, and to impoverish the American people, so that the United States becomes no more exceptional than any other country, but can rightly be classified as a Third World nation, with all the problems that plague such nations.

Two questions: (1) Has anyone noticed that we have arrived at that point; i.e. financially and morally bankrupt, economically prostrate, drug infested, dependent on food stamps, and racially divided? And--- (2) What role did our friend and ally, Israel, play in this fiasco for our country? [Note that as we march backwards to Third World status, the Israeli Zionists march forward to their dream of a greater (Eretz) Israel]

Over to you, dear citizen----and I know--you do not wish to think about it. It is, after all, just conspiracy theory. And, oh yes, the Neo-Republicans are going to save us from all this in 2016. The trick is to get rid of Obama.

 

[LanceFreeman]

It is ironic that the roles played by Russia and the United States in the past have now been reversed. Russia is now seen by most of the world nations as the 'good guy', playing the role of peace-keeper, promoting democracy and non-interference, while the United States is the warmonger, bully, and all-round 'bad guy'. Interesting, is it not?

 

[UPNYA2]

Short sweet and to the point.. Best analgises of the two UN speeches. Putin won I agree.

It'a Official! Obama Lost the Chess Game With Putin


Hark! Hearest thou yonder sound? It is the sound of the United States government becoming OBSOLETE in the Middle East! Check out the news. See that? Now IRAQ is going to cooperate with Russia, Syria, and Iran to defeat ISIS over in Syria. HA HA HA! How do ya like THEM apples, Obama!? Hey, you can’t say I didn’t warn you. I said this could happen last week right here on Lew Rockwell when I said “Iraq might just join the party, too”.

First, Putin went to the UN and rightfully gave the United States a good, swift kick in the keester it has needed for a long time now in regards to this whole “Let’s arm the Syrian moderates!” shindig: “Instead of the triumph of democracy and progress, we got violence, poverty and social disaster — and nobody cares a bit about human rights, including the right to life,” Putin said. “I cannot help asking those who have forced that situation: Do you realize what you have done?” Uncle Sam is still rubbing his sore keester from that truth-spanking.

So, now we know Russia, Iran, and Syria are all cooperating and now we also know Iraq HAS, in fact, joined the party! Gosh, and the poor United States now feels left out. Aww…Uncle Sammy wasn’t invited to the party? Now Obama and Kerry have been scrambling, trying to talk to Iran about Syria and Yemen. Iran probably feels like Kerry is trying to invite himself to the soiree and use the old “Iran invited me!” shtick to crash the party. Now here goes Obama saying, “Oh, um, well, we want to cooperate with Russia! Seriously! But, Assad still needs to go, you guys!” Yeah, still trying to save face after all this time, even though there’s egg all over it. Give it up, clowns. You just got outflanked. You lost this chess game for keeps.

The U.S. has NOTHING to show for its efforts with Ye Olde Syrian Moderates that were going to get rid of ISIS and Assad both. A $500 million Pentagon program was supposed to train and equip more than 5,000 fighters, so they said. But what did SecDef Ash Carter tell us? A year later, they had FIFTY guys at the most! Then two weeks ago, it was admitted there were only five left AND their leader defected to al-Qaida and took all the weapons with him. Wow, great work guys! Did they give two weeks notice to HR, or was it just a shock to you? That was a swell use of $500 million American taxpayer dollars! And how come none of those airstrikes ever bore fruit? The Iranians pulled off successful airstrikes using cobbled-together F-4 Phantoms older than some Americans’ grand-dads! Probably because the U.S. airstrikes were dropping bombs on empty desert to look busy. “Hey you guys, look busy! Drop bombs on something!” “What should we bomb, sir?” “How should I know?! I’m going golfing with the president! Now get busy!”

Of course Obama is still sticking to this failed policy of trying to topple Assad even after Putin has thoroughly humiliated him in this chess game. Obama is whining over Assad STILL! You’d think Assad picked on Obama in high school or something! It’s like Obama is sitting there looking at all his chess pieces that got captured by Putin and saying, “Hey! No fair! Do over! I wasn’t looking when you put my king into check there!” Pssst! Hey Obama! Ya might wanna quit while, well, not while you’re ahead, because you’re not. But quit before it gets worse and maybe other countries join Russia because they see the U.S. is incompetent at best and dangerously foolish at worst. As in: Plays with fire kind of dangerously foolish. Iraq was “our guy” and now they just said they found a better deal with Russia. So underneath all of that probably lies a secret—for right now—military alliance between Russia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq. You can be sure the Saudis are already sweating not bullets, but ballistic missiles, as I said in my previous article.

Ahhh…the sweet smell of the fall of the American empire! It smells like…hilarity. For all of thinking it knew best, it sure fell for that one, eyes wide open. Last week, Obama was confident he’d control the talks and make it about Ukraine. Putin said no. It’ll be about Syria. And how! The U.S. just became obsolete in the Middle East. And, what, the Saudis are still our guys? So what! They’re in the hotseat with the rest of the Muslim world over that Hajj stampede. They’re getting sued in international court by Iran. Not to mention lots of people in the Middle East are rather angry about Saudi imperialism in Yemen. The rest of the Arab Gulf States will probably be watching close to see who they want to back in the future. I doubt it will be the United States and Saudi Arabia. The vacuum of people leaving that room will cause whirlwinds all over that region.

So, hey Obama, there’s your legacy! Please, stop whining. You lost a chess match with Putin. That’s what you get for listening to people in the Pentagon who thought it was a tiddlywinks tournament. Say, anyone up for a game of chess? The United States government sure wasn’t.

"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, on the board and
Then struts around like it won the game."

~Vladimir Putin

 

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"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, on the board and
Then struts around like it won the game."

~Vladimir Putin

Funny. That's what I think of republicans here.

 

[UPNYA2]

Funny. That's what I think of republicans here.

Just pick up the pieces, hoss................

 

[write on]

Just pick up the pieces, hoss................

You must have missed my post when I said the exact same thing about cons a few days ago.

Or did you?

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Funny. That's what I think of republicans here.

You don't think the same applies to Democrats? Wow.

 

[write on]

You don't think the same applies to Democrats? Wow.

Yawn

So? I'm just laughing at UPNY's use of the same text I did a few days ago.

You just unwittingly acknowledge me saying it about republicans earlier.

lmao!

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Yawn

So? I'm just laughing at UPNY's use of the same text I did a few days ago.

You just unwittingly acknowledge me saying it about republicans earlier.

lmao!

Unwittingly? Umm... no, that would be EXPLICITLY, shorty.

 

[LanceFreeman]

Although America's apparent obsession with the overthrow of Syria's Assad is phony as a 2-dollar bill---the Assad regime has little impact on the U.S. one way or another, and might as well exist on the other side of the Moon---the truth behind Obama's public dance is that this idiotic stance his regime has taken, which has cost us a good portion of our treasure and military hardware, reflects only Israel's wishes, and that is all. This is not to mention the thousands of Syrians that have died, or the millions that have been displaced, or the miseries that have been generated, because of our meddling. No nation in that area observing our behavior is going to soon forget how the U.S. stood by while Israel's proxy army (ISIS) did its dirty work. People are not as stupid there, as they are over here; they can see what is going on.

This little shit of a state has bled us like no other, costing us our wealth, our prestige around the world, our pride, our dignity, our sovereignty, our self-respect, and the enmity of countless peoples.

And still, the comatose American public cannot do enough for these thieves and master-manipulators. I received a package in the mail just yesterday from some minister of some church (don't know how he got my name) asking me to contribute money for Israel, because Iran was threatening it, and we are doing nothing about Iran. His letter stated that he had been to Israel lately, and some general there had told him that Iran was a hairsbreadth away from acquiring nuclear weapons, which it intends to use on Israel, and that Israel was finished unless Israel's American friends did something. This fool believed everything this 'general' told him, without question. His letter sounded frantic, like Israel's destruction was imminent.

This is the kind of hogwash the Jews inflict on gullible Americans every day (I see it on the forums daily). And Americans, for some reason, swallow any garbage made in Israel whole, like it was manna from heaven. And why not? Such garbage has paid the Israelis handsomely over the decades. It has given them everything they have ever wanted.

 

[LanceFreeman]

"We live in the dark, convinced by our public media and our insincere leaders that we are heroes and freedom fighters. In reality, the opposite is true: we are the plunderers, the ravagers, deceiving ourselves to do the dirty work of the manipulators who have twisted our minds with trinkets and false accounts of the people we kill, and the countries we ruin, in order to steal their treasures."
----John Kaminski

 

[RickWA]

Although America's apparent obsession with the overthrow of Syria's Assad is phony as a 2-dollar bill---the Assad regime has little impact on the U.S. one way or another, and might as well exist on the other side of the Moon---the truth behind Obama's public dance is that this idiotic stance his regime has taken, which has cost us a good portion of our treasure and military hardware, reflects only Israel's wishes, and that is all. This is not to mention the thousands of Syrians that have died, or the millions that have been displaced, or the miseries that have been generated, because of our meddling. No nation in that area observing our behavior is going to soon forget how the U.S. stood by while Israel's proxy army (ISIS) did its dirty work. People are not as stupid there, as they are over here; they can see what is going on.

This little shit of a state has bled us like no other, costing us our wealth, our prestige around the world, our pride, our dignity, our sovereignty, our self-respect, and the enmity of countless peoples.

And still, the comatose American public cannot do enough for these thieves and master-manipulators. I received a package in the mail just yesterday from some minister of some church (don't know how he got my name) asking me to contribute money for Israel, because Iran was threatening it, and we are doing nothing about Iran. His letter stated that he had been to Israel lately, and some general there had told him that Iran was a hairsbreadth away from acquiring nuclear weapons, which it intends to use on Israel, and that Israel was finished unless Israel's American friends did something. This fool believed everything this 'general' told him, without question. His letter sounded frantic, like Israel's destruction was imminent.

This is the kind of hogwash the Jews inflict on gullible Americans every day (I see it on the forums daily). And Americans, for some reason, swallow any garbage made in Israel whole, like it was manna from heaven. And why not? Such garbage has payed the Israelis handsomely over the decades. It has given them everything they have ever wanted.

Da Jooooooooooooooz!!!!

 

[LanceFreeman]

Why They Hate us
Admin September 24, 2015 Other Writers
. . . by Fred Reed


Lynndie England, Abu Ghraib torturer:“Why does everyone hate us?”

A frequent theme nowadays is “Why do they hate us?” meaning why does so much of the world detest the United States.

The reasons given are usually absurd: They hate our freedom or democracy. They hate us for our cultural superiority. They hate us because we are wonderful.

No. Actually the reason is simple if unpalatable. They hate us because we meddle, and have meddled. They hate us because we are the most murderous nation on the planet. They hate our insufferable smugness.

People remember slights. They may not remember them as they actually happened, but they remember them. The Civil War ended in 1865, the Federal occupation in 1877. Yet today many Southerners are still bitter, to the point that their emotional loyalty is to the South, not to Washington. Silly? Yes, if you are from the North. Grievances matter more to those aggrieved than to the perpetrators.

Countries usually see their own virtues and the warts of others. Americans, perhaps because they do not much travel, carry this to an extreme and regard their country as superior to all others. The attitude is highly annoying. Consider the US from the point of view of others:

In Google Images, search on “Abu Ghraib.” You will see American Army women grinning as they torture and humiliate Arab men. They are having a wonderful time, and the whole world can see those pictures. This was American policy — low-ranking girl soldiers do not undertake this kind of thing without approval from command. The general in charge was a woman. Torture is still American policy.

Stalin did this sort of thing. So did Adolf. So did Pol Pot. And so does the United States. Other countries know it.
Below the Rio Bravo? The first rule of American hemispheric diplomacy south of Texas should be “Don’t get into Latin faces unless you have to.” The US has a long history of meddling to the south. At least three invasions of Mexico, at least one of Panama, the installation of Pinochet in Chile, and of support for various Central American dictators, United Fruit, the Canal Zone, the Bay of Pigs, on and on and on. These things are remembered.

A couple of examples of abjectly stupid, obnoxious meddling: First, many decades back, Mexico had a comic-book character called Memin Pinguin, a caricature black kid with exaggerated lips and so on who had adventures with white friends. In 2005, Mexico issued postage stamps with Memin’s picture, as we might of Elvis. To Mexicans it was innocent nostalgia. Yet in America outrage erupted. Jesse Jackson attacked the Mexican government and George Bush denounced the stamps as racism. People here were furious: Mexico couldn’t even issue postage stamps without approval from Washington.

Second: In 2006 , some Cuban businessmen took a room in the Sheraton in Mexico City. Washington got wind of it and forced Sheraton, an American company, to eject them. Childish, pointless, it enraged Mexicans who see Cuba as yet another small country being bullied by the US, and regarded the ejection as meddling with national sovereignty. The effect of course was to fan sympathy for Cuba.

Further, we tend to see things through lenses of moralistic abstractions: Democracy is good, and freedom is good, and therefore if we bomb Iraq and kill many thousands of soldiers who are someone’s husbands, brothers, children, and fathers, the survivors will throw flowers and turn into Fifth Century Athens. It’s all right to destroy cities because we say we have good intentions.

People detest condescension. Yet we lecture Russia and China condescendingly on human rights, and speak openly of committing “regime change” in various countries as if we had a divine right to determine their form of government. It smells of armed mommyism, which no one can stand.

It is even worth reflecting that our “democracy” and “freedom” do not look as resplendent as we might think to the people of a more collective-minded and well-run country. Try Singapore. Neither democratic nor free in our sense, it is prosperous, free of crime, without a drug problem (a country that executes drug dealers has few of them), enjoys schools far better than ours; lacks graffiti, vandalism, and trash in the streets, and has a high degree of technological advancement. Its people quietly regard themselves as civilizationally superior to a degraded America in decline. (Humility is not a besetting sin of the Chinese.)

Why do we not behave more sensibly? Americans obviously are not stupid people. Dummies don’t build Mars rovers. Yet we seem to have a wanton, almost genetic non-grasp of how others think — which means that we can’t predict what they will do. Often Americans just don’t care what others think. This of course plays into the hands of those with long memories.

That’s why they hate us. We meddle.

 

[write on]

Although America's apparent obsession with the overthrow of Syria's Assad is phony as a 2-dollar bill---the Assad regime has little impact on the U.S. one way or another, and might as well exist on the other side of the Moon---the truth behind Obama's public dance is that this idiotic stance his regime has taken, which has cost us a good portion of our treasure and military hardware, reflects only Israel's wishes, and that is all. This is not to mention the thousands of Syrians that have died, or the millions that have been displaced, or the miseries that have been generated, because of our meddling. No nation in that area observing our behavior is going to soon forget how the U.S. stood by while Israel's proxy army (ISIS) did its dirty work. People are not as stupid there, as they are over here; they can see what is going on.

This little shit of a state has bled us like no other, costing us our wealth, our prestige around the world, our pride, our dignity, our sovereignty, our self-respect, and the enmity of countless peoples.

And still, the comatose American public cannot do enough for these thieves and master-manipulators. I received a package in the mail just yesterday from some minister of some church (don't know how he got my name) asking me to contribute money for Israel, because Iran was threatening it, and we are doing nothing about Iran. His letter stated that he had been to Israel lately, and some general there had told him that Iran was a hairsbreadth away from acquiring nuclear weapons, which it intends to use on Israel, and that Israel was finished unless Israel's American friends did something. This fool believed everything this 'general' told him, without question. His letter sounded frantic, like Israel's destruction was imminent.

This is the kind of hogwash the Jews inflict on gullible Americans every day (I see it on the forums daily). And Americans, for some reason, swallow any garbage made in Israel whole, like it was manna from heaven. And why not? Such garbage has payed the Israelis handsomely over the decades. It has given them everything they have ever wanted.

I would think that you'd be glad that Obama is using Putin to fight the 'proxy war' in the M.E. that he thinks should be fought by those there.

Obama has done what he said. He's playing Putin for the narcissist that he is...all the while saving American lives.

 

[LanceFreeman]

I would think that you'd be glad that Obama is using Putin to fight the 'proxy war' in the M.E. that he thinks should be fought by those there. Obama has done what he said. He's playing Putin for the narcissist that he is...all the while saving American lives.

I don't want anyone fighting a proxy war in Syria. Leave these people alone. They don't need you, or I, or Putin to solve their problems. People are dying needlessly there because Americans want to play games with Putin. Let's see who's smarter, us or Putin.

 

[write on]

I don't want anyone fighting a proxy war in Syria. Leave these people alone. They don't need you, or I, or Putin to solve their problems. People are dying needlessly there because Americans want to play games with Putin. Let's see who's smarter, us or Putin.

I agree. But it was Bush that put us in this situation.

And it was Bush that wanted an uprising to transform the M.E.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031106-2.html

And what do we hear from those with their head still stuck up his ass making excuses for him? A complete clusterfuck!

Blame Obama!

 

[LanceFreeman]

I agree. But it was Bush that put us in this situation.
And it was Bush that wanted an uprising to transform the M.E.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031106-2.html
And what do we see from his complete clusterfuck?
Blame Obama!

Usually, I have no quarrel with those things you say, but Bush did not give us Syria, or the so-called 'freedon fighters' trained by our forces in Jordan, or ISIS (also trained by our forces in Turkey and elsewhere). Obama is a puppet and a traitor to this country. Everything he does, he does for his masters in London and Jerusalem---not for you.

 

[write on]

Usually, I have no quarrel with those things you say, but Bush did not give us Syria, or the so-called 'freedon fighters' trained by our forces in Jordan, or ISIS (also trained by our forces in Turkey and elsewhere). Obama is a puppet and a traitor to this country. Everything he does, he does for his masters in London and Jerusalem---not for you.

Did you read the link I provided that shows what Bush said right after he started the war in Iraq?

That pos, and his neocon [Unwelcome language removed] puppet masters, knew what would happen when they invaded Iraq.

They didn't give a shit. They're like every con here and everywhere. They never take blame. It's always someone else's fault.

 

[LanceFreeman]

Did you read the link I provided that shows what Bush said right after he started the war in Iraq?
That pos, and his neocon [Unwelcome language removed] puppet masters, knew what would happen when they invaded Iraq.
They didn't give a shit. They're like every con here and everywhere. They never take blame. It's always someone else's fault.

Yes, I finally read it. Understand that both Bush and Obama work for the same master; that no matter what Bush said, or did not say, Obama would have done exactly what he has done already. Obama received the baton from Bush in 2008, and has carried out the elite plan for America to the next level. Do not be fooled by this puppet. He is not his own man. He receives his orders from his handlers in New York (the CFR), who receive them from London. Bush got his orders the same way. We need to get rid of these traitors; they've ruined our country beyond recognition.