It's started

[Bernard_Fokke]

No. Why? Do you?

Good at least we agree that the law should be obeyed and respected

 

[Arkady]

I've exerted as much effort as I intend on the matter. Feel free to do a sociological study as the record sits on this forum. Go back and read through a number pertinent posts.

Then I have no clue what point you were trying to make.

 

[Arkady]

Good at least we agree that the law should be obeyed and respected

I think that kind of thing backfires most of the time. That said, if you're pushing to start an actual revolution, it's a step towards radicalizing people (see, for example, the historical tactics of the Sons of Liberty).

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You do realize there is a difference between party names and what a country calls itself?

If you read the German Nazi party platform it was socialist. If you read the American Nazi party platform it is still socialist.

Countries don't have platforms they have constitutions. Was the Chinese or Soviet constitution ever republican?

Weewee on the People

All republics are oligarchies, so the USSR and the PRC were Constitutional republics. The Nazis outlawed unions, so they, too, established a republic. Socialism and Capitalism are both enemies of democracy. Anyone who preaches that we have to have one or the other is playing tricks. A "mixed economy" is a mixture of two bad ingredients.

Under fundamentalist Capitalism, businessmen own the government. Under fundamentalist Socialism, the government owns the businesses. Same difference. Absentee ownership by a different clique is still the same elitist domination.

Socialist leaders are the sons of Capitalists. So hereditary aristocracy and its universities are the sources of both tyrannies. Familyism is more primitive than tribalism; the longer the dynasties are around, the more regressive society becomes.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

@The Sage of Main Street

Has Trump made any of these promises to his white people?

Hitler's socialist promises to those of his race:

10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

The centralization of power into the state is characteristic of socialist organized communities and states.

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations

The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.

The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.



http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm

repeated here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

Descendants of Neanderthal Hybrids Called "Werewolves"

False advertising. The real service they were selling was to take all the Jews' money and property to finance wars that would take other countries' money and property.

 

[resident_evil]

Then I have no clue what point you were trying to make.

I'm good with that. Thanks for letting me know.

 

[resident_evil]

Weewee on the People

All republics are oligarchies, so the USSR and the PRC were Constitutional republics. The Nazis outlawed unions, so they, too, established a republic. Socialism and Capitalism are both enemies of democracy. Anyone who preaches that we have to have one or the other is playing tricks. A "mixed economy" is a mixture of two bad ingredients.

Under fundamentalist Capitalism, businessmen own the government. Under fundamentalist Socialism, the government owns the businesses. Same difference. Absentee ownership by a different clique is still the same elitist domination.

Socialist leaders are the sons of Capitalists. So hereditary aristocracy and its universities are the sources of both tyrannies. Familyism is more primitive than tribalism; the longer the dynasties are around, the more regressive society becomes.

There is no left or right because they are the same. There is only up and down (to paraphrase RR). When a society forms itself around individual rights over collective rights (i.e. an elected representative republic with a Bill of Individual Rights versus a democracy) you actually do what is best for the collective.

 

[Dawg]

I think that kind of thing backfires most of the time. That said, if you're pushing to start an actual revolution, it's a step towards radicalizing people (see, for example, the historical tactics of the Sons of Liberty).

Evidently these punks want Civil War 2

they will regret it

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

When a society forms itself around individual rights over collective rights (i.e. an elected representative republic with a Bill of Individual Rights versus a democracy) you actually do what is best for the collective.

Walking Tall by Walking All Over People

Well-financed propaganda bombarding defenseless minds day and night makes us believe that Every Man for Himself leads to the benefit of the whole, whether the isolated actors care to or not. But, outside the Matrix that blocks independent judgment, a "rugged individual" runs everybody else ragged. "A rising tide lifts all boats" is the constantly repeated fantasy; luxury pleasure cruisers capsize all rowboats is the reality.

 

[resident_evil]

Walking Tall by Walking All Over People

Well-financed propaganda bombarding defenseless minds day and night makes us believe that Every Man for Himself leads to the benefit of the whole, whether the isolated actors care to or not. But, outside the Matrix that blocks independent judgment, a "rugged individual" runs everybody else ragged. "A rising tide lifts all boats" is the constantly repeated fantasy; luxury pleasure cruisers capsize all rowboats is the reality.

Said like a hopeless communist. At some point that way of thinking will have to go extinct once and for all.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Said like a hopeless communist. At some point that way of thinking will have to go extinct once and for all.

Marx Was the Sex Slave of a Patty Hearst Type Duchess

Communists are the brats of the Right Wingers. They hate their Capitalist fathers, but want to change the government into the same kind of exclusivist tyranny.