More Fast and Furious details emerge!!!!!

[wookie-leeks]

Via ABC News/ Univision
http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/things-operation-fast-furious/story?id=17362933

Previously unidentified F&F guns discovered.
http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision...furious-guns-mexican-crimes/story?id=17361775

http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision...-emerge-us-government-armed/story?id=17352694


2009 Fast and Furious guns were used in the El Aliviane massacre of 18 men at a drug rehab center.

10 more deaths at Centro Anexo De Vida another similiar facility.

2010 at least 3 high powered assault rifles linked to Fast and Furious were used in the Salvarcar massacre at a birth day party of 60 highschool and college aged people, in this case 15 people were killed and another 12 were wounded.

All three aforementioned incidents were ordered by "El Diego" aka Antonio Acosta Hernandez, a chieftan warlord of La Linea the armed wing of the Juarez Cartel. Upon his capture he admitted to being responsible for the deaths of 1500 people through various means.



At least 100 Fast and Furious guns have been use in crimes that we know of. 57 more guns previously unknown to the congressional inquiry have recently come to light.

Mexico's government in fact did know about Fast and Furious despite official statements released by both governments denying knowledge thereof according to William Newell the special agent in charge of ATF's Phoenix office at the time.

There were MORE Fast and Furious programs launched by the Obama regime. Called Operation Castaway that involved "walking" guns into Honduras, Colombia, and Puerto Rico.

Agents Avila and Zapata working on behalf of the US Embassy in Mexico were were transporting surveillance equipment and came under attack by cartel gunmen in Zetas controlled territory. It is believed Fast and Furious guns were also used in this barrage of 90 bullets killing Agent Zapata, and seriously wounding Avila.


So that just about does it for this post. If any cartel wise guys are wondering, yep, I'm an A-hole.

FYI, I live in BBC Texas, come and get a piece. My dogs always had a hankering for goat testicles I don't see why they wouldn't like to eat fresh narco gang banger nuts and pinko pelotas as well.

Bienvenidos Cabron!!!

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Guns suck.

 

[Boltlady]

Via ABC News/ Univision
http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/things-operation-fast-furious/story?id=17362933

Previously unidentified F&F guns discovered.
http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision...furious-guns-mexican-crimes/story?id=17361775

http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision...-emerge-us-government-armed/story?id=17352694


2009 Fast and Furious guns were used in the El Aliviane massacre of 18 men at a drug rehab center.

10 more deaths at Centro Anexo De Vida another similiar facility.

2010 at least 3 high powered assault rifles linked to Fast and Furious were used in the Salvarcar massacre at a birth day party of 60 highschool and college aged people, in this case 15 people were killed and another 12 were wounded.

All three aforementioned incidents were ordered by "El Diego" aka Antonio Acosta Hernandez, a chieftan warlord of La Linea the armed wing of the Juarez Cartel. Upon his capture he admitted to being responsible for the deaths of 1500 people through various means.



At least 100 Fast and Furious guns have been use in crimes that we know of. 57 more guns previously unknown to the congressional inquiry have recently come to light.

Mexico's government in fact did know about Fast and Furious despite official statements released by both governments denying knowledge thereof according to William Newell the special agent in charge of ATF's Phoenix office at the time.

There were MORE Fast and Furious programs launched by the Obama regime. Called Operation Castaway that involved "walking" guns into Honduras, Colombia, and Puerto Rico.

Agents Avila and Zapata working on behalf of the US Embassy in Mexico were were transporting surveillance equipment and came under attack by cartel gunmen in Zetas controlled territory. It is believed Fast and Furious guns were also used in this barrage of 90 bullets killing Agent Zapata, and seriously wounding Avila.


So that just about does it for this post. If any cartel wise guys are wondering, yep, I'm an A-hole.

FYI, I live in BBC Texas, come and get a piece. My dogs always had a hankering for goat testicles I don't see why they wouldn't like to eat fresh narco gang banger nuts and pinko pelotas as well.

Bienvenidos Cabron!!!

Ah yes the hypocrisy of it all. We give guns to people who absolutely will use them to kill people, at the same time arrangements are being made to take the guns from people who might. It's a pretty skewed situation.

 

[wookie-leeks]

Guns suck.

No actually "we know what's best for you", neer do well, utopian liberals suck.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

No actually "we know what's best for you", neer do well, utopian liberals suck.

We don't shoot people. We don't need guns to make us feel like men. I'm good with that.

 

[Cerulean Mutt]

That's an outrage!

I mean since no guns except for those F&F guns are going across the border into Mexico all those people would still be alive!

 

[Zoar]

That's an outrage!

I mean since no guns except for those F&F guns are going across the border into Mexico all those people would still be alive!

IT'S A JOKE, RIGHT?

The US gov feeding guns to bad guys has been going on for 50 years. Come on. Did you ever hear of "Blow Back"?? Iran Contra??? The actions of our CIA and other covert agencies have ZERO to do with who is in the whitehouse! Will you ever wake up and smell the burnt coffee?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

IT'S A JOKE, RIGHT?

The US gov feeding guns to bad guys has been going on for 50 years. Come on. Did you ever hear of "Blow Back"?? Iran Contra??? The actions of our CIA and other covert agencies have ZERO to do with who is in the whitehouse! Will you ever wake up and smell the burnt coffee?

Don't you remember the Pugs screeching when there were "gunwalking" operations under GWB?

No? Me neither.

 

[Zoar]

Don't you remember the Pugs screeching when there were "gunwalking" operations under GWB?

No? Me neither.

Huh, you're so correct. All we heard from the Righties was crickets! Funny. Can this be called hypocrisy??? Yes rhetorical.

 

[wookie-leeks]

We don't shoot people. We don't need guns to make us feel like men. I'm good with that.

You people also don't believe in whipping young people's asses, and figure society, and the cops will deal with them once they reach adult hood. Instead you feed them psychotropic drugs, park them in front of a TV/ X box, Ipod, and feed them a steady diet of Mickey D's, global warming, and leftist indoctrination. You go girl!!!!! Pinko mofos!


As for Iran-Contra, yep, the liberals are still pissed off that we freed the hostages while Carter looked like an ineffectual clown, after Ollie North acting as a third party in an arms deal between Israel and Iran got it done.

The Iranians got shoulder fired stingers, when they were expecting big SAM's to take down high flying aircraft, so they were a tad dissappointed on Christmas day.

And so what, the Contras were fighting Communists, and we were arming them so that they could kill those mofos. There was also some drug dealing involved I hear. Oh no!

I don't hear you complaining about the CIA flooding the ghetto with cocaine and heroin.

Of course liberals forget about Mena Arkansas being used as a major drug hub when Bill Clinton was the Governor there.

"Kinky Sex Makes The World Go Round"

With regards to George Bush's gun walking operations, those were much smaller in scope, and carried out on a limited basis. With Obama's gun walking operations they were expanded and executed very poorly.

It would appear the lack of oversight and control of the operation was never a big issue. The issue was simply to "pour gasoline on the fires" in Mexico, then turn around and say that our loose gun laws are causing ALL of it!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, our beloved communist professor Obama can pretty much get away with murder, and Democrats do not have the integrity, honesty, or ethics to call him on it.

 

[wookie-leeks]

This whole idea about apples/oranges, and Obama walking guns into Mexico being equated to Iran Contra and Bush, is beyond bizarre. Bush's gun walking was much smaller in scope.

Fast and Furious alone involved 2000 guns, who knows about Operation Castaway.

For one thing, the CIA should be in charge of supplying arms to foreign elements, and usually those are sympathetic regimes that are fighting our enemies.

Somehow the Drug Cartels don't qualify.

Oh, and another thing, the ATF, and the FBI, are law enforcement, and are not the CIA, but under Obama, some goons within those agencies think they are evidently.

With a communist halfrican President, the sky is the limit when it comes to abuse of Government power..

After all, what kind of a douche bag openly states he wants a Civilian National Security Force, equal in size, strength, and equipping as the military??? Try a communist scum bag????


You know our Anglo tradition is that we only have large standing armies actively stationed abroad. When you have large standing armies or politicized paramilitary forces stationed on the homefront it is automatically seen as a threat to civil liberties.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPLdiagqtLE

The liberals don't care, it's what they secretly desire.


This is no problem to leftwing troglodytes, afterall they would like to exterminate their domestic political opposition by any means necessary. Bankrupt them, audit them, confiscate their wealth, guns, etc, have third world scum rape their women, and breed them out of existence.

Meanwhile the Ted Kennedy's, Rockefellers of the world have their kids fermetically insulated from what's going on at the ground level in America.

It's all a part of the globalist, New World Order plan, that there would be two classes of people.

Rulers, and Slaves.

The Democrats which are the vanguard of the NWO, and the Globalists themselves have no room for traditional middle class America.

So their plan is to elimiate middle America, by any means necessary.

 

[zzigzzag]

Bush's gun walking was much smaller in scope.

Oh...well....that's OK then.

After all, what kind of a douche bag openly states he wants a Civilian National Security Force, equal in size, strength, and equipping as the military?

Talk about being misinformed. You're clueless.

With a communist halfrican President

Bigotry goes well with stupidity. You're the whole winger package.

It's all a part of the globalist, New World Order plan, that there would be two classes of people.

Rulers, and Slaves.

The Democrats which are the vanguard of the NWO, and the Globalists themselves have no room for traditional middle class America.

So their plan is to elimiate middle America, by any means necessary.

Closing out by blaming Democrats for Republican aspirations was a unique stroke of stupidity....or is it just dishonesty? I can never tell whether you wingers are lying or just dumb. Hmmmm....dumb liars, I guess.

 

[Boca]

Indeed

In Wide Receiver the weapons were fitted with tracking devices; Mexican authorities were notified in advance of the program; when guns headed toward the border Mexican
authorities were notified; we assisted Mexico in interdiction at the border; Wide Receiver was immediately shut down in 2007 when it was discovered the tracking devices were being removed.

Whereas there were no tracking devices in F&F; Mexican officials were not briefed or notified; no weapons were tracked; no interdictions; an estimated 300 Mexican citizens and
officials were murdered; and it was only shut down when it was discovered and reported that one of our Border Agents was a victim.

Not to mention, AG Holder and DOJ have asked a federal court to indefinitely delay a FOIA lawsuit seeking F&F documents, including records withheld from Congress subject to Executive Privilege.

Otherwise, the programs were nearly identical in the Pig's latin.

Ohhh...and Wookie...

The issue was simply to "pour gasoline on the fires" in Mexico, then turn around and say that our loose gun laws are causing ALL of it!!!!!!!!!!

The irony worth noting here is that a crazed 20-something white kid accomplished what the two most powerful black men in the country couldn't....and with fewer dead.

 

[TomFitz]

Ah yes the hypocrisy of it all. We give guns to people who absolutely will use them to kill people, at the same time arrangements are being made to take the guns from people who might. It's a pretty skewed situation.

Hypocricy?

Hardly!

We're making arrangements to close the loophole in the law that makes it possible for this trade to exist in the first place.

As long as 40% of guns sold are private unregulated sales, and laws against straw man purchases are so weak that it is almost impossible to prosecute people charged under them, the US gun industry will continue to use these weak laws to arm Mexican drug cartels. And, apparantly, the NRA will continue to defend it.

 

[TomFitz]

The irony worth noting here is that a crazed 20-something white kid accomplished what the two most powerful black men in the country couldn't....and with fewer dead.

What is that supposed to mean?

 

[wookie-leeks]

<<<Talk about being misinformed. You're clueless. >>>


Did you not watch the video of Obama speaking at his pep rally in Denver prior to his election in 2008.

On that part, Obama's wasn't lying. The military isn't good enough for him, never will be, because he knows they are not loyal to him deep in their hearts like he desires.


How does he compensate for this??? Build his own political paramilitary army handpicked by him and his goons.

He stated in very simple terms even a layman would understand, but a kool aid drinker????

They just explain it away as he wants his own peace corps horde.


Ha, then why would a peace corps need to be just as "strong, well equipped, armed, and funded" as the military????? Hmmmm????????

Someone has penis envy, and it ain't me.

 

[wookie-leeks]

<<<Mexican officials were not briefed or notified;>>>

Yes, that was the official line from both governments originally, but if you read my links, William Newell the Special Agent in charge of the Phoenix ATF office stated that the Mexican Government was in fact notified of the operation.

 

[wookie-leeks]

Bush's gun walking was much smaller in scope.

Oh...well....that's OK then.

Trust me, if there had been government agents killed as a result of "walked" guns under the Bush regime the liberal media would have let us know about it.

Duh!

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

As for Iran-Contra, yep, the liberals are still pissed off that we freed the hostages while Carter looked like an ineffectual clown, after Ollie North acting as a third party in an arms deal between Israel and Iran got it done.

Ronald RayGun promised America that he would never negotiate with terrorists, and then was sending birthday cakes and Bibles to the Ayatollah, the world's greatest terrorist. So Ronald RayGun lied to America. You're OK with that.

Ollie North was convicted of perjury, of lying under oath to Congress. You're OK with that, too.

The ends justify the means, apparently, in your philosophy.

That is an old Marxist philosophy. Sounds like you're the practicing Communist, here.

 

[Boca]

Why would it be the "official line" from Washington, yet the Phoenix guy says not so?

Either Washington was setting him up as the fall guy, or it was so and Newell's trying to save his ass?