More success from the unAffordable Care Act?

[MrMike]

Maybe they should have read the bill before the passed the bill?

"Blue Cross and Blue Shield is seeking increases averaging 53.7 percent across its Affordable Care Act plans"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-blue-cross-obamacare-premiums-0605-biz-20160603-story.html

 

[Deleted member 21794]

This can't be. Liberals tell us premiums are rising more slowly than ever. Of course, that still means premiums are moving in the OPPOSITE direction Obama promised again and again. But just wait. "Middleview" says we gotta wait until ObamaScam is fully implemented to see how awesome the results are. Of course, by then Obama will be long gone.

 

[worldlymrb]

I'm hearing about insurers saying Obamacare is stiffing them on promised subsidies and subsidy payments.

That shouldn't be surprising to big insurance though because Obamcare is also stiffing the American poor workers Obamacare subsidies as well.

 

[Dawg]

ObamaCare fixing to go POOF

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/heal...-obamacare-in-2017/ar-BBtTdva?ocid=spartandhp

 

[ObamacareForever]

Who's getting rich from those rising premiums?

 

[Dawg]

Who's getting rich from those rising premiums?

point is ObamaCare is a fraud, was known to be a fraud on jump street.
who saved $2500 as ya boy Θ promised?
Breaking News
http://www.headlinepolitics.com/breaking-court-just-ruled-obamacare-illegal/?source=tpi

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Who's getting rich from those rising premiums?

Typical leftist neanderthal- rather than confront the failure of the disastrous policy, engage the lower part of the brain to whine about "who's getting rich"?

There better questions to ask, such as "why is this scam making so many people so much more than promised? Another better question is, especially given your silly alias, is why on Earth would anyone be stupid enough to continue supporting something so clearly a disaster?

 

[ObamacareForever]

Typical leftist neanderthal- rather than confront the failure of the disastrous policy, engage the lower part of the brain to whine about "who's getting rich"?

There better questions to ask, such as "why is this scam making so many people so much more than promised? Another better question is, especially given your silly alias, is why on Earth would anyone be stupid enough to continue supporting something so clearly a disaster?

It's a totally reasonable question to ask where the money is going. Is it going to cover medical expenses or is going into the pocket of the insurance company?

 

[Dawg]

It's a totally reasonable question to ask where the money is going. Is it going to cover medical expenses or is going into the pocket of the insurance company?

Insurance industry didn't donate $20,000,000 to ya boy Θ in 2008 not looking for a BIG return on donation.

 

[ObamacareForever]

Insurance industry didn't donate $20,000,000 to ya boy Θ in 2008 not looking for a BIG return on donation.

You don't think innovative drug companies coming up with new life saving and expensive treatments are driving up costs at all?

 

[ObamacareForever]

Insurance industry didn't donate $20,000,000 to ya boy Θ in 2008 not looking for a BIG return on donation.

Insurance companies profit margins are capped. If they don't spend enough of your premium on health expenses, you get a refund the following year. If you get your insurance through your employer, your employer most likely intercepts that refund check.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

It's a totally reasonable question to ask where the money is going. Is it going to cover medical expenses or is going into the pocket of the insurance company?

Really? So you want to talk about whether the insurance companies, who spent a lot of money to help get ObamaScam passed are now profiting? I really don't think that's in your best interest. But hey, if you want to look like an even bigger jackass than you already do, knock yourself out.

Furthermore, you're displaying complete ignorance on how ObamaScam works. It limited the percentage of money it took in that could be used for things other than paying for services. So a 53% increase clearly indicates the cost of services is going up. You continually display complete ignorance on the matter, yet continue wanting to get the US deeper into this disaster.

But the fact remains, it's the law that is the problem. Your insistence on defending on doubling down is hilarious.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

You don't think innovative drug companies coming up with new life saving and expensive treatments are driving up costs at all?

Kook Obama defender: It's the insurance companies! It's big pharma! It's not ObamaScam! I swear it's not! Oh and please ignore Hillary being the number one recipient of big pharma money!

 

[ObamacareForever]

Kook Obama defender: It's the insurance companies! It's big pharma! It's not ObamaScam! I swear it's not! Oh and please ignore Hillary being the number one recipient of big pharma money!

I totally think Big Pharma can charge whatever they want. They are saving people's lives, they should be able to charge an arm and leg. I also think that is driving up the cost of insurance and not Obamacare.

 

[Dawg]

Insurance companies profit margins are capped. If they don't spend enough of your premium on health expenses, you get a refund the following year. If you get your insurance through your employer, your employer most likely intercepts that refund check.

I'm Retired, it's why I posted of your ignorance of Medicare.

 

[Dawg]

You don't think innovative drug companies coming up with new life saving and expensive treatments are driving up costs at all?

Show where I posted that__________________________wasn't even part of the damn discussion.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

I totally think Big Pharma can charge whatever they want. They are saving people's lives, they should be able to charge an arm and leg. I also think that is driving up the cost of insurance and not Obamacare.

Pfizer net profit margin:

2011: 14.84%
2012: 24.70%
2013: 42.65%
2014: 18.42%
2015: 14.25%

Hey, how about Merck?

https://www.stock-analysis-on.net/N...ong-Term-Trends/Net-Profit-Margin#Calculation

Nope.

OK, what about Amgen?????

https://ycharts.com/companies/AMGN/profit_margin

Sorry, you lose again! Isn't time you simply admit you're a babbling fool?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Pfizer net profit margin:

2011: 14.84%
2012: 24.70%
2013: 42.65%
2014: 18.42%
2015: 14.25%

Hey, how about Merck?

https://www.stock-analysis-on.net/N...ong-Term-Trends/Net-Profit-Margin#Calculation

Nope.

OK, what about Amgen?????

https://ycharts.com/companies/AMGN/profit_margin

Sorry, you lose again! Isn't time you simply admit you're a babbling fool?

Big Pharma made out like fat rats when GWB and the GOP insisted that the feds can't negotiate drug prices with them.

The GOP is fighting to preserve that law. You oppose the GOP on that, right?

 

[Caroljo]

This can't be. Liberals tell us premiums are rising more slowly than ever. Of course, that still means premiums are moving in the OPPOSITE direction Obama promised again and again. But just wait. "Middleview" says we gotta wait until ObamaScam is fully implemented to see how awesome the results are. Of course, by then Obama will be long gone.

A few weeks ago my surgeon said just wait until Obamacare is fully implemented....we'll all be screwed. She should know.....

 

[Deleted member 21794]

A few weeks ago my surgeon said just wait until Obamacare is fully implemented....we'll all be screwed. She should know.....

And of course it'll be Republicans' fault. ObamaScam was specifically designed to fail after Obama is out of office, though liberals will still say something like, see we tried! We gotta have single payer to REALLY fix health care.