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More witnesses or not?

Boca

Boca

Governor
What do you think?

Personally I'd love to see the fab five, Comey, Lynch, Brennan, Clapper, and Obama brought in and questioned. That the Dems want to allow that is a mystery.

Why put the five in jeopardy when all you want is to bring in Bolton and Parnas. That's the mystery given Bolton said he would testify if subpoenaed in the so-called inquiry but they didn't? Nor did they subpoena Parnas.

Why now? I don't get it.
 
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Boca said:
What do you think?

Personally I'd love to see the fab five, Comey, Lynch, Brennan, Clapper, and Obama brought in and questioned. That the Dems want to allow that is a mystery.

Why put the five in jeopardy when all you want is to bring in Bolton and Parnas. That's the mystery given Bolton said he would testify if subpoenaed in the so-call unquiry but they didn't? Nor did they subpoena Parnas.

Why now? I don't get it.
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I'd like to see them all testify. At this point it can't get any more muddled
 
Boca said:
What do you think?

Personally I'd love to see the fab five, Comey, Lynch, Brennan, Clapper, and Obama brought in and questioned. That the Dems want to allow that is a mystery.

Why put the five in jeopardy when all you want is to bring in Bolton and Parnas. That's the mystery given Bolton said he would testify if subpoenaed in the so-call unquiry but they didn't? Nor did they subpoena Parnas.

Why now? I don't get it.
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Sure, bring 'em in and let them embarrass the shit out of Republican Senators with their dumb@ss irrelevant questions.
Remember all those time Hillary made fools of Republicans in the house. Do that again.
 
I am so over impeachment, If the Senate believes the nonsense being touted by the Dem's then remove Trump (Which I do not believe will happen). If not, I would prefer that our elected officials get on with our Countries business. I do not believe more witnesses are going to change anyone's mind. If indeed witnesses are allowed, then by all means I fully expect the defense team to call in the Biden's, Schiff and the WB. Honestly, bringing in Parnas would make for some great entertainment, so lets throw him in the mix as well.
 
PhilFish said:
I'd like to see them all testify. At this point it can't get any more muddled
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Nope, Democrats are too afraid to do that. There’s no way they’ll allow Schiff, the whistleblower and anyone named Biden to testify as a witness.
The GOP should welcome witnesses and watch the Democrats scurry.
 
Boca said:
What do you think?

Personally I'd love to see the fab five, Comey, Lynch, Brennan, Clapper, and Obama brought in and questioned. That the Dems want to allow that is a mystery.

Why put the five in jeopardy when all you want is to bring in Bolton and Parnas. That's the mystery given Bolton said he would testify if subpoenaed in the so-call unquiry but they didn't? Nor did they subpoena Parnas.

Why now? I don't get it.
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I say no.

For no other reason than it makes all of my more liberal friends howl like gut shot panthers every time they hear that the Senate gets to make the rules of the trial, NOT the dems.

Petty perhaps, but it amuses me and I have no problem admitting why I have my opinion as opposed to so many who are running around acting if their opinion is based solely upon their unique, all-encompassing, uber-enlightened in depth understanding of the US Constitution and the intent of our founding fathers.

(Whom they all usually hate, oddly enough....)
 
Boca said:
What do you think?

Personally I'd love to see the fab five, Comey, Lynch, Brennan, Clapper, and Obama brought in and questioned. That the Dems want to allow that is a mystery.

Why put the five in jeopardy when all you want is to bring in Bolton and Parnas. That's the mystery given Bolton said he would testify if subpoenaed in the so-call unquiry but they didn't? Nor did they subpoena Parnas.

Why now? I don't get it.
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Dino said:
Nope, Democrats are too afraid to do that. There’s no way they’ll allow Schiff, the whistleblower and anyone named Biden to testify as a witness.
The GOP should welcome witnesses and watch the Democrats scurry.
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Yeah, sure.
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Dino said:
Seems like the House impeached the president without sufficient evidence.
Oh well.
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There was sufficient evidence to impeach.
Americans, by 70%, want Trump's people to testify....to add to the facts of the case.
Trump is refusing to let his people testify because he's guilty.
 
JuliefromOhio said:
There was sufficient evidence to impeach.
Americans, by 70%, want Trump's people to testify....to add to the facts of the case.
Trump is refusing to let his people testify because he's guilty.
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Not because he’s guilty. You should be paying attention to what’s going on.
There’s still questions of executive privilege that are as yet unsettled. If Democrats felt this testimony was significant would they have made such a silly error as to not have the courts coerce the testimony?
What a blunder.
 
Dino said:
Not because he’s guilty. You should be paying attention to what’s going on.
There’s still questions of executive privilege that are as yet unsettled. If Democrats felt this testimony was significant would they have made such a silly error as to not have the courts coerce the testimony?
What a blunder.
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Executive privilege, which Trump has never used - for a reason - doesn't apply in impeachment proceedings.
 
JuliefromOhio said:
Executive privilege, which Trump has never used - for a reason - doesn't apply in impeachment proceedings.
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More help is needed I see.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/jay-se...-on-executive-privilege-remember-eric-holder/

During his opening remarks in the Senate impeachment trial, President Donald Trump's lawyer Jay Sekulow quoted Democrats' own words against them. He condemned the House Democrats' rush to impeach Trump, adding an article of impeachment for "Obstruction of Congress" rather than litigating a matter of executive privilege in court. He quoted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), and Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), each of whom defended Barack Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder when he was held in contempt of Congress in 2012.

"Mr. Schiff did say the courts don't really have a role in this. Executive privilege? Why would that matter? It matters because it's based in the Constitution of the United States," Sekulow said. "The president's opponents in their rush to impeach have refused to wait for judicial review."


He quoted law professor Jonathan Turley, who warned, "I can't emphasize this enough...if you impeach a president — if you make a high crime and misdemeanor of going to the courts, it is an abuse of power. It's your abuse of power. You're doing precisely what you're criticizing the president for doing."
 
JuliefromOhio said:
There was sufficient evidence to impeach.
Americans, by 70%, want Trump's people to testify....to add to the facts of the case.
Trump is refusing to let his people testify because he's guilty.
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You don't seem to understand that when co-equal branches of government reach an impasse the courts decide, usually the Supreme Court.

As was the case with Nixon and the missing 18 minutes of audio tape.

Yet Schiff nor Nadler sued? Ask yourself why?
 
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Boca said:
You don't seem to understand that when co-equal branches of government reach an impasse the courts decide, usually the Supreme Court.

As was the case with Nixon and the missing 18 minutes of audio tape.

Yet Schiff nor Nadler sued? Ask yourself why?
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Not in this case.
SCOTUS rules on questions of constitutionality.
The Constitution already says:
1. the House has the power to impeach
2. the Senate shall conduct the trial.

SCOTUS ruled that Nixon had to turn over everything to congress. Trump is violating the law/precedent by not turning over all documents. Why waste time when SCOTUS would just affirm Trump needs to release his witnesses and turn over all documents?

In an incredible exchange at Davos, @realdonaldtrump admits he is comfortable with the status of the impeachment trial because the White House is withholding evidence. "Honestly, we have all the material. They don't have the material." As always, he says the quiet part out loud.
 
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