Mormons preparing for doomsday !!

[as seen on tv]

http://www.sltrib.com/home/2935776-155/some-mormons-stocking-up-amid-fears

Only 144,000 will be saved (when the world ends)! So clearly the mormons who are stocking up on canned goods, bottled water, and double A batteries are afraid they won’t be among the chosen few. There are about 15 million mormons worldwide (7 million in the USA), so less than 1 in a hundred will go to heaven. That’s got to be a bummer, if you picked the right religion (out of dozens) and STILL wind up in hell, eh?

I did go to Costco over the weekend - which in some ways is similar to hell. At the checkout line ahead of me some guy had a whole “cart” full of bottled water. But he looked vaguely Arabic or middle eastern, not like the Duggars. That Duggar kid who molested his sister – he’s not going to heaven either I bet. Anyway, Mo-Costco with the bottled water, he also had a lot plastic cutlery, napkins, and plastic cups. So either he operates a food truck, or he’s also afraid the end of the world is coming and wants to have some sort of party while there’s still time.

Mitt Romney isconsidering entreaties to “save” the republican party and re-enter the 2016 presidential race, so he’s not taking this end of days thing too seriously either. But then again, it’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a millionaire to enter heaven. The bible is mute on incestuous pedophiles though – so maybe Lot was granted entry after his wife turned to a pillar of salt and he consoled himself with his daughters? Hope for Josh Duggar yet!

I was curious concerning what signs of the apocalypse might be triggering mormons to max out their Visa cards (full disclosure – VISA can be translated as “666” which is the mark of the devil – in roman numerals). So here are some of the answers I got when I asked around:

• • Tim Tebow cut by the Eagles, after thowing 2 TDs and rushing for a bunch of yards in his final pre-season appearance. The mormon faithful were already predicting that Eagles 3rd string QB Matt Barkley was going to be traded or cut, but the Tebow move unnerved them.
  • Muslims fleeing muslims, looking for refuge in Nazi Germany. Okay – I know the Germans are no longer goose stepping, but the Greeks aren’t too thrilled with their new German designed austerity plan (this one - a muslim diaspora - is actually true. It’s actually predicted in the bible somewhere)
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  • Amazon announces a $50 tablet – Just a rumor for now. But if it’s true, the stock of Apple will crash, trigging the final apocalypse all by itself. Which is probably the inevitable result of Apple naming a gay man (Tim Cook) as CEO, if you believe that the Mormon god is “the one” and hates guys but loves polygamy.
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  • The halt in global warming – Planet earth has been warming/melting for 10,000 years. Since the end of the last ice age. The fact that this is slowing/stopping recently should be very worrisome. Planet earth normally (98% of the time) does not have polar ice caps, so their persistence, and the actual increase of snow depth in some locations, can’t be a good sign.
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  • The Pope isn’t catholic – Francis the Argentinian is some sort of socialist/libertine. He’s just announced free annulments for everyone, and abortions are no longer a barrier to going to heaven. Shouldn’t the leader of a major religion overturning 2,000 years of dogma be a worrisome sign?
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  • Gasoline Prices near $2 bucks – the lowest in 20 years. Under the stewardship of a US president who hates cars. This is possibly god’s retribution for Obama comparing himself to Jesus – god is going to destroy not just our government, but the entire planet?
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  • Donald Trump. No specific comment or deed by Trump. Just his actual existence. Evidently he’s the anti-christ, and not Obama?

Full disclosure - the ASOT household, which is devoutly secular, is hedging its bets on the possibility of an apocalypse. We did not purchase mass quantities of canned goods, batteries, and toilet paper. However, when a recent AT&T smartphone contract expired, we did NOT rush out and get "the latest thing". Adding an "S" to the end of a phone model released earlier in the year does not seem reason enough to do this. Although telling potential customers that they need to chuck perfectly good phones and get the new "S" model might be a sign of Satanic influence in product design and marketing . . .

 

[marvin martian]

Amusing as always. I suspect any "apocalypse" we may experience in the near future; economic, social, nuclear (if Obama and Iran get their way), etc., will be at the hands of incompetent, corrupt, evil or otherwise malicious governments and their lackeys, rather than biblical in nature.

Also, I'm not Mormon, but I believe they have a common practice of maintaining an emergency supply of food and water. Probably goes back to their days as a heavily persecuted minority during the founding days of their religion.

 

[as seen on tv]

Amusing as always. I suspect any "apocalypse" we may experience in the near future; economic, social, nuclear (if Obama and Iran get their way), etc., will be at the hands of incompetent, corrupt, evil or otherwise malicious governments and their lackeys, rather than biblical in nature.

Also, I'm not Mormon, but I believe they have a common practice of maintaining an emergency supply of food and water. Probably goes back to their days as a heavily persecuted minority during the founding days of their religion.

the next national disruption will go much worse than the great depression.

people no longer live predominatntly on farms, and can raise chickens for food, chop wood for heat, and get water from a well.

our cities will quickly become a lawless free fire zone if basics like food, water, and electricity are cut off. anyone with a gun will use force to keep himself alive.

 

[marvin martian]

the next national disruption will go much worse than the great depression.

people no longer live predominatntly on farms, and can raise chickens for food, chop wood for heat, and get water from a well.

our cities will quickly become a lawless free fire zone if basics like food, water, and electricity are cut off. anyone with a gun will use force to keep himself alive.

Indeed. Look what happened when the EBT system went down for just a day or two. When those welfare cards, on which a very large percentage of our population are dependent for their basic necessities, come up with a $0.00 balance, the fallout will be tremendous, rapid and very violent. I'd hate to be living in or near a city when that happens.

Matt Bracken paints a pretty good picture of this if you're interested in reading a rather lengthy piece he wrote on the subject. He called it "When the Music Stops":

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpr...-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/

 

[as seen on tv]

Indeed. Look what happened when the EBT system went down for just a day or two. When those welfare cards, on which a very large percentage of our population are dependent for their basic necessities, come up with a $0.00 balance, the fallout will be tremendous, rapid and very violent. I'd hate to be living in or near a city when that happens.

Matt Bracken paints a pretty good picture of this if you're interested in reading a rather lengthy piece he wrote on the subject. He called it "When the Music Stops":

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/

my corporate server says "page cannot be displayed". it blocks a lot of things, including youtube, extremist sites, and probably porn too, although I haven't attempted to test that proposition.

I saw a doomsday analysis (on PBS?) a few years ago. Some guy was scoffing at the notion that hoarding kruggerands was going to help. "You meet a guy with a gun, and offer kruggerands to buy it. Before that transaction is over, someone is going to have both the gun AND the gold . . . "

 

[marvin martian]

my corporate server says "page cannot be displayed". it blocks a lot of things, including youtube, extremist sites, and probably porn too, although I haven't attempted to test that proposition.

I saw a doomsday analysis (on PBS?) a few years ago. Some guy was scoffing at the notion that hoarding kruggerands was going to help. "You meet a guy with a gun, and offer kruggerands to buy it. Before that transaction is over, someone is going to have both the gun AND the gold . . . "

Probably blocked because of the blog name (Western Rifle Shooter's Association). Well, if you're interested, check it out when you get home. Bracken is an author and former Navy SEAL.

 

[Arkady]

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  • The halt in global warming – Planet earth has been warming/melting for 10,000 years. Since the end of the last ice age. The fact that this is slowing/stopping recently should be very worrisome. Planet earth normally (98% of the time) does not have polar ice caps, so their persistence, and the actual increase of snow depth in some locations, can’t be a good sign.

Just in case anyone is actually reading this thread, I figured I'd inject a little actual information into it. According to the VAST majority of climate scientists, not only is warming not slowing/stopping, it's been accelerating.

 

[Charcat]

http://www.sltrib.com/home/2935776-155/some-mormons-stocking-up-amid-fears

Only 144,000 will be saved (when the world ends)! So clearly the mormons who are stocking up on canned goods, bottled water, and double A batteries are afraid they won’t be among the chosen few. There are about 15 million mormons worldwide (7 million in the USA), so less than 1 in a hundred will go to heaven. That’s got to be a bummer, if you picked the right religion (out of dozens) and STILL wind up in hell, eh?

I did go to Costco over the weekend - which in some ways is similar to hell. At the checkout line ahead of me some guy had a whole “cart” full of bottled water. But he looked vaguely Arabic or middle eastern, not like the Duggars. That Duggar kid who molested his sister – he’s not going to heaven either I bet. Anyway, Mo-Costco with the bottled water, he also had a lot plastic cutlery, napkins, and plastic cups. So either he operates a food truck, or he’s also afraid the end of the world is coming and wants to have some sort of party while there’s still time.

Mitt Romney isconsidering entreaties to “save” the republican party and re-enter the 2016 presidential race, so he’s not taking this end of days thing too seriously either. But then again, it’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a millionaire to enter heaven. The bible is mute on incestuous pedophiles though – so maybe Lot was granted entry after his wife turned to a pillar of salt and he consoled himself with his daughters? Hope for Josh Duggar yet!

I was curious concerning what signs of the apocalypse might be triggering mormons to max out their Visa cards (full disclosure – VISA can be translated as “666” which is the mark of the devil – in roman numerals). So here are some of the answers I got when I asked around:

• • Tim Tebow cut by the Eagles, after thowing 2 TDs and rushing for a bunch of yards in his final pre-season appearance. The mormon faithful were already predicting that Eagles 3rd string QB Matt Barkley was going to be traded or cut, but the Tebow move unnerved them.
  • Muslims fleeing muslims, looking for refuge in Nazi Germany. Okay – I know the Germans are no longer goose stepping, but the Greeks aren’t too thrilled with their new German designed austerity plan (this one - a muslim diaspora - is actually true. It’s actually predicted in the bible somewhere)
  • 
    
  • Amazon announces a $50 tablet – Just a rumor for now. But if it’s true, the stock of Apple will crash, trigging the final apocalypse all by itself. Which is probably the inevitable result of Apple naming a gay man (Tim Cook) as CEO, if you believe that the Mormon god is “the one” and hates guys but loves polygamy.
  • 
    
  • The halt in global warming – Planet earth has been warming/melting for 10,000 years. Since the end of the last ice age. The fact that this is slowing/stopping recently should be very worrisome. Planet earth normally (98% of the time) does not have polar ice caps, so their persistence, and the actual increase of snow depth in some locations, can’t be a good sign.
  • 
    
  • The Pope isn’t catholic – Francis the Argentinian is some sort of socialist/libertine. He’s just announced free annulments for everyone, and abortions are no longer a barrier to going to heaven. Shouldn’t the leader of a major religion overturning 2,000 years of dogma be a worrisome sign?
  • 
    
  • Gasoline Prices near $2 bucks – the lowest in 20 years. Under the stewardship of a US president who hates cars. This is possibly god’s retribution for Obama comparing himself to Jesus – god is going to destroy not just our government, but the entire planet?
  • 
    
  • Donald Trump. No specific comment or deed by Trump. Just his actual existence. Evidently he’s the anti-christ, and not Obama?

Full disclosure - the ASOT household, which is devoutly secular, is hedging its bets on the possibility of an apocalypse. We did not purchase mass quantities of canned goods, batteries, and toilet paper. However, when a recent AT&T smartphone contract expired, we did NOT rush out and get "the latest thing". Adding an "S" to the end of a phone model released earlier in the year does not seem reason enough to do this. Although telling potential customers that they need to chuck perfectly good phones and get the new "S" model might be a sign of Satanic influence in product design and marketing . . .

They have been stocking up on supplies since they began--so that's not a sign. When they all start moving to Missouri, THEN you can worry.

http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/...cle_4acfb38a-f4ef-500f-9cc9-e4fbf1116636.html

 

[marvin martian]

Just in case anyone is actually reading this thread, I figured I'd inject a little actual information into it. According to the VAST majority of climate scientists, not only is warming not slowing/stopping, it's been accelerating.

Haha. When you said "actual information" I thought I might be treated to the very rare occasion when you actually credit your source. But I guess linking to carboncredits-r-us.com probably doesn't help your case...

 

[Arkady]

Haha. When you said "actual information" I thought I might be treated to the very rare occasion when you actually credit your source. But I guess linking to carboncredits-r-us.com probably doesn't help your case...

Check any major source's graph of temperatures and you'll see the same thing. The IPCC is generally considered the best of the meta-analyses -- it gets criticized about equally from each side, which is a good sign they're doing something right in their efforts to summarize all the published literature. Here's their combined graph of the various major temperature reconstructions:

https://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch6s6-6.html

Here's another reconstruction:

And this one's just the Northern Hemisphere:

http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/069.htm

 

[Drumcollie]

the next national disruption will go much worse than the great depression.

people no longer live predominatntly on farms, and can raise chickens for food, chop wood for heat, and get water from a well.

our cities will quickly become a lawless free fire zone if basics like food, water, and electricity are cut off. anyone with a gun will use force to keep himself alive.

Wait..guessing you haven't heard of S. Chicago...it's already here

 

[as seen on tv]

Wait..guessing you haven't heard of S. Chicago...it's already here

it's cow-proof this time.

 

[as seen on tv]

Check any major source's graph of temperatures and you'll see the same thing. The IPCC is generally considered the best of the meta-analyses -- it gets criticized about equally from each side, which is a good sign they're doing something right in their efforts to summarize all the published literature. Here's their combined graph of the various major temperature reconstructions:

https://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch6s6-6.html

Here's another reconstruction:

And this one's just the Northern Hemisphere:

http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/069.htm

sorry - the IPCC 'meta analysis" has been demonstrated to be inferior to "pristine sites". I've posted this before. You're simply in denial. pristine sites removes all the chicanery with "adjustments" and "urban heat islands", and simply uses REAL temperature data from locations outside urban areas. No warming at all. In fact, slight cooling:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/15/a...ion-data-shows-us-in-a-10-year-cooling-trend/

 

[as seen on tv]

Just in case anyone is actually reading this thread, I figured I'd inject a little actual information into it. According to the VAST majority of climate scientists, not only is warming not slowing/stopping, it's been accelerating.

the vast majority of scientists aren't using the "pristine site" numbers, which are free of chicanery such as "adjustments" and "urban heat islands".

the pristine sites show no warming over the past decade. in fact they show a slight cooling trend.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/15/a...ion-data-shows-us-in-a-10-year-cooling-trend/

of course, that won't matter to true believers. drink the kool ade, and enjoy


hey, wasn't NYC supposed to be 6 feet under water by now? that was Dr Hansen's prediction in 1985, wasn't it? How is it that lying son of a bitch is still being paid by our tax dollars?

 

[Arkady]

sorry - the IPCC 'meta analysis" has been demonstrated to be inferior to "pristine sites".

I've explained your misunderstanding about those data multiple times. I'll try again.

(1) That "pristine site" data is only for the United States. The US takes up approximately 2% of the planet. It would be like tracking temperatures in Missouri and thinking that tells you what's been going on in the US as a whole. Yes, there's been no warming trend in the US over a ten year period, but that doesn't tell us anything at all about the planet as a whole.

(2) The "pristine site" data SUPPORTED the global warming theory, rather than undermining it. There had been a claim that the data showing global warming was a phantom of the instruments -- a mere result of poorly-set instrument sites, which were showing fictional warming trends based merely on things like changing footprints of heat islands. By setting up a pristine set of instruments, that theory could be tested for. It turns out that the pristine sites showed the same change in temperatures as the non-pristine sites, indicating that there was no meaningful problem with the old data set.

Of course, people who get their science news from Tucker Carlson's little conservative propaganda site won't be told any of that. They're told only the things that the conservative movement wants them to know. And so they'll assume that since the pristine data shows no warming trend in the US over the last ten years, this somehow means no GLOBAL warming over that time, and that somehow this pristine data undermines rather than supports the wider data set (despite them each showing essentially the same trend over that time period).

Here's a little hint for those trying to avoid making fools of themselves: If you see Anthony Watts quoted as a source, what you're reading is right-wing propaganda, not science reporting. Watts is not a climate scientist. He's a blogger who never even graduated college, much less received any serious scientific training. He's one of those empty suits who stands in front of a green screen and points while making dumb jokes for the viewers. If a story is forced to scrape the bottom of the barrel hard enough that Anthony Watts is the only thing that comes up, they're really at a loss.

 

[Arkady]

the vast majority of scientists aren't using the "pristine site" numbers, which are free of chicanery such as "adjustments" and "urban heat islands".

the pristine sites show no warming over the past decade. in fact they show a slight cooling trend.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/15/a...ion-data-shows-us-in-a-10-year-cooling-trend/

of course, that won't matter to true believers. drink the kool ade, and enjoy


hey, wasn't NYC supposed to be 6 feet under water by now? that was Dr Hansen's prediction in 1985, wasn't it? How is it that lying son of a bitch is still being paid by our tax dollars?

The "pristine sites" show almost the exact same trend as the other sites!

Can you spot the difference between the pristine (USCRN) sites and the non-pristine ones?. Look very carefully. They track almost exactly, except that there's actually a slight uptick in temperatures for the pristine sites just recently.

What this pristine data did was to confirm that whatever problems individual sites may have had in the old data set, those problems tended to cancel each other out, so that the overall trend being tracked ended up being almost identical to what you'd get if you used only the most pristine sites. There wasn't a systematic bias up or down, in the non-pristine data. There was just a bunch of random errors both up and down, so that when you averaged out the massive data set, you got just about what you'd have gotten without those errors.

Before we set up and tracked those pristine sites, it was at least possible to imagine that the warming trend was an instrument phantom, caused by a systematic bias in the way the measurements were done. Now that we have the pristine sites to compare against, we have found out there wasn't a systematic bias of that sort, and so the non-pristine data (taken on an average basis) looks plenty reliable. That data shows a very clear trend of global warming.

 

[Arkady]

hey, wasn't NYC supposed to be 6 feet under water by now? that was Dr Hansen's prediction in 1985, wasn't it?

No. Did you HONESTLY not see my thorough debunking of that meme? If so, I can link you to it. But if you did see it, and you're just posting the same crap you know to be a lie, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.