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MSNBC says: Rand Paul didn’t plagiarize his NSA lawsuit

Marcus Aurelius

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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/rand-paul-didnt-plagiarize-his-nsa-lawsuit

Did Rand Paul lift legal work from a celebrated conservative lawyer without fully paying him? The attorney in question says he didn’t.

On Wednesday, the Kentucky Republican senator announced he was teaming up with former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli and the conservative activist group Freedomworks to sue the NSA over it’s telephone metadata collection program. Although there are already several pending legal challenges, Paul’s suit is unique in that it’s a class-action lawsuit, driving home his political argument that the program amounts to a violation of all Americans’ constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure. Paul has encouraged supporters to sign up as part of the lawsuit at his political action committee’s (known as RANDPAC) website, which asks for donations after requesting contact information from the user.

Late Wednesday, the Washington Post published a story quoting Mattie Fein, identified as the ex-wife and spokesperson of conservative attorney Bruce Fein, saying that Paul and Cuccinnelli had used Bruce Fein’s legal work without fully compensating him, and that the filing in the lawsuit was identical to one Fein had worked on for Paul’s PAC.

A spokesperson for RANDPAC forwarded an email from Fein denying Mattie Fein’s allegations. “Mattie Lolavar was not speaking for me,” Fein said in the email. “Her quotes were her own and did not represent my views. I was working on a legal team, and have been paid for my work.” Bruce Fein confirmed to msnbc that the email was from him.

The Kentucky Senator has previously come under criticism for lifting work without attribution in op-eds, speeches, and even his book.

But when it comes to his lawsuit against the NSA, the accusation appears to be without merit.



Suck it, Paul haters!
 
Since December, the libertarian lawmaker, a tea party favorite, had been working with former Reagan administration lawyer Bruce Fein to draft a class-action suit seeking to have the National Security Agency’s surveillance of telephone data declared unconstitutional; the two men appeared together as early as last June to denounce the NSA’s activities.

But when Paul filed his suit at the U.S. District Court in Washington on Wednesday morning, Fein’s name had been replaced with that of Ken Cuccinelli, the failed Republican gubernatorial candidate in Virginia who until last month had been the state’s attorney general. [...]

Fein, who has not been paid for his legal work by Paul’s political action committee, was furious that he had been omitted from the filing he wrote.
 
Bo-4 said:
Since December, the libertarian lawmaker, a tea party favorite, had been working with former Reagan administration lawyer Bruce Fein to draft a class-action suit seeking to have the National Security Agency’s surveillance of telephone data declared unconstitutional; the two men appeared together as early as last June to denounce the NSA’s activities.

But when Paul filed his suit at the U.S. District Court in Washington on Wednesday morning, Fein’s name had been replaced with that of Ken Cuccinelli, the failed Republican gubernatorial candidate in Virginia who until last month had been the state’s attorney general. [...]

Fein, who has not been paid for his legal work by Paul’s political action committee, was furious that he had been omitted from the filing he wrote.
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“Mattie Lolavar was not speaking for me,” Fein said in the email. “Her quotes were her own and did not represent my views. I was working on a legal team, and have been paid for my work.” Bruce Fein confirmed to msnbc that the email was from him.

Suck that, dumb ass.
 
LOL! You mean Obama-funded MSNBC got it wrong again?? I'm shocked. That place is full of racists, stooges and idiots. If not for the government cheese, they would have been off the air years ago...
 
Bo-4 said:
Since December, the libertarian lawmaker, a tea party favorite, had been working with former Reagan administration lawyer Bruce Fein to draft a class-action suit seeking to have the National Security Agency’s surveillance of telephone data declared unconstitutional; the two men appeared together as early as last June to denounce the NSA’s activities.

But when Paul filed his suit at the U.S. District Court in Washington on Wednesday morning, Fein’s name had been replaced with that of Ken Cuccinelli, the failed Republican gubernatorial candidate in Virginia who until last month had been the state’s attorney general. [...]

Fein, who has not been paid for his legal work by Paul’s political action committee, was furious that he had been omitted from the filing he wrote.
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Save this post for the next time the poor thing scoffs at the "Unreliable/biased/etc" source in lieu of a damaging response the impotent thing almost always lacks.
 
Mytzlplk said:
Save this post for the next time the poor thing scoffs at the "Unreliable/biased/etc" source in lieu of a damaging response the impotent thing almost always lacks.
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So, even though the man himself says his EX-wife is not his spokesperson, and does not speak for him, and he was indeed paid for his efforts... you and Bo-bo the Clown still swear Ron Paul plagiarized the NSA lawsuit.

Dumb asses, the pair of you.
 
Bo-4 said:
Since December, the libertarian lawmaker, a tea party favorite, had been working with former Reagan administration lawyer Bruce Fein to draft a class-action suit seeking to have the National Security Agency’s surveillance of telephone data declared unconstitutional; the two men appeared together as early as last June to denounce the NSA’s activities.

But when Paul filed his suit at the U.S. District Court in Washington on Wednesday morning, Fein’s name had been replaced with that of Ken Cuccinelli, the failed Republican gubernatorial candidate in Virginia who until last month had been the state’s attorney general. [...]

Fein, who has not been paid for his legal work by Paul’s political action committee, was furious that he had been omitted from the filing he wrote.
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and as you can see, the impotent one was left with little choice but to attribute to me things that are nowhere in evidence as a dishonest or stupid diversion, given that all I addressed was the poor things use of MSNBC as a source.
 
marvin martian said:
LOL! You mean Obama-funded MSNBC got it wrong again?? I'm shocked. That place is full of racists, stooges and idiots. If not for the government cheese, they would have been off the air years ago...
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Link to gubment subsidies to MSNBC or "racism" on their part Marv?

Meh.. :rolleyes:
 
Bo-4 said:
Link to gubment subsidies to MSNBC or "racism" on their part Marv?
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1. Gov't bail out of GE in 2009.
2. Repeated apologies (followed by firings) from racist MSNBC employees for their offensive tweets and on-air comments.

You know it's there, Bo. Pretending it isn't only makes you look even dumber...

Now...dodge away!
 
Stick to the thread topic dumb asses...

huff-po has updated their story...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ma-lawsuit_n_4780386.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

UPDATE (12:05 p.m. ET) -- The following statement was provided to Paul's office from Bruce Fein:

"Mattie Lolavar was not speaking for me. Her quotes were her own and did not represent my views. I was working on a legal team, and have been paid for my work."
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Now... your OWN SOURCE has corrected the story.

Do you still believe it was plagiarism, Bo-bo???
 
Bo-4 said:
I call him The Marble BUST ;-)
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huff-po has updated their story...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ma-lawsuit_n_4780386.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

UPDATE (12:05 p.m. ET) -- The following statement was provided to Paul's office from Bruce Fein:

"Mattie Lolavar was not speaking for me. Her quotes were her own and did not represent my views. I was working on a legal team, and have been paid for my work."
Now... your OWN SOURCE has corrected the story.

Do you still believe it was plagiarism, Bo-bo???
 
Mytzlplk said:
Save this post for the next time the poor thing scoffs at the "Unreliable/biased/etc" source in lieu of a damaging response the impotent thing almost always lacks.
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Save it too, for the next time someone says something like, "Hey, the guy's a lawyer and we all KNOW ya can't trust anything a lawyer says!"

It sorta reminds me of when all those Fox/GOP's preferred to side with Russia's Pooty-poot, over their own American president and were apparently oblivious to the fact of just how contradictory that was - espeically for Republicans.
 
Mr. Friscus said:
It appears Bo's source has been corrected straight from the horse's mouth, but Bo will probably cling to what is factually incorrect information just to keep up the agenda of being anti-Republican
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No, it appears that Mr. Fein corrected the misinformation so i take him at his word.

But nobody can blame MSNBC for running with the story considering Little Rand's past issues with plagiarism.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115497/rand-paul-apologizes-plagiarism

He'll be president when pigs fly. ;)
 
fairsheet said:
Save it too, for the next time someone says something like, "Hey, the guy's a lawyer and we all KNOW ya can't trust anything a lawyer says!"

It sorta reminds me of when all those Fox/GOP's preferred to side with Russia's Pooty-poot, over their own American president and were apparently oblivious to the fact of just how contradictory that was - espeically for Republicans.
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well both things are just examples of their "both ways" BS that oftentimes involves selectivity fair, which in turn is determined solely by who is damaged by that selected as their immutable position on the matter.
 
Bo-4 said:
No, it appears that Mr. Fein corrected the misinformation so i take him at his word.

But nobody can blame MSNBC for running with the story considering Little Rand's past issues with plagiarism.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115497/rand-paul-apologizes-plagiarism

He'll be president when pigs fly. ;)
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well, as you can see, you "lied" by reporting/posting the HP material, but he was telling the whole truth and nothing but by claiming that I was insisting that their reporting was beyond reproach (like you allegedly) when I posted nothing but a comment about how the clown almost always (in my expereince) whines about and dismisses any and all reporting as "biased, etc, when they come from lefty sources like he no doubt believes MSNBC to be.

Given that there was nothing I posted that would lead any reasonable and objective person to that conclusion, it would appear that the only liar here is marblehead.
 
Mytzlplk said:
well, as you can see, you "lied" by reporting/posting the HP material, but he was telling the whole truth and nothing but by claiming that I was insisting that their reporting was beyond reproach (like you allegedly) when I posted nothing but a comment about how the clown almost always (in my expereince) whines about and dismisses any and all reporting as "biased, etc, when they come from lefty sources like he no doubt believes MSNBC to be.

Given that there was nothing I posted that would lead any reasonable and objective person to that conclusion, it would appear that the only liar here is marblehead.
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translation: I lied about Rand Paul too, but I don't have the balls to admit it.
 
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