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Never Doubt The Experts....

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A Top Ten List, sort of:

1: GLOBAL WARMING TO WIPE NATIONS "OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH" IF CLIMATE CHANGE NOT ADDRESSED BY YEAR 2000

In 1989, the Associated Press relayed a warning from a U.N. official:

"A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000."

2: MASS STARVATION BY 1975

In 1967, a best-selling book came out called “Famine 1975! America’s Decision: Who Will Survive?”

It predicted mass starvation around the developing world due to increasing population. “Today’s crisis can move in only one direction – toward catastrophe,” it warned.

3: GLOBAL FREEZING AS DANGEROUS AS NUCLEAR WAR

Global cooling was once a worry to many, such as University of California at Davis professor Kenneth Watt, who warned that present trends would make the world “eleven degrees colder in the year 2000 ... about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

British science writer Nigel Calder was just as worried. "The threat of a new ice age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of wholesale death and misery for mankind,” Calder warned in International Wildlife magazine in 1975.

4: MASSIVE WARMING BY THE YEAR 2000

The same U.N. official who predicted the loss of entire nations by the year 2000 also claimed: "the most conservative scientific estimate [is] that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years.”

But looking back from 2019, the temperature rose about half of a degree Celsius since 1989, according to NASA.

6: AL GORE SAYS 10 YEARS ARE LEFT IN 2006

In 2006, while promoting his movie “An Inconvenient Truth”, Al Gore said that humanity had only 10 years left before the world would reach a point of no return.

Gore’s movie also featured animations of water inundating Manhattan and Florida.

Yet Gore’s critics point out that just a few years later, he bought an $8 million beach-front property near Los Angeles.

7: ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHE WILL CAUSE “NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST” BY THE YEAR 2000

In 1982, U.N. official Mostafa Tolba, executive director of the UN Environment Program, warned:

“By the turn of the century, an environmental catastrophe will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust.”

No such disaster occurred.

8: MASS EXTINCTION BY 1995

In 1970, Sen. Gaylord Nelson (D-Wisc.) – often considered the “father of Earth Day” – cited the secretary of the Smithsonian, who “believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

That did not happen.

9: METALS DEPLETED BY 1990

Scientist Harrison Brown predicted in Scientific American that lead, zinc, tin, gold and silver deposits would be fully depleted before 1990.

But mining companies found new technologies and reserves, such that by 2019, none of those minerals were near depletion.

10: THE REAL REASON?

Economist Walter E. Williams says environmentalists have occasionally tipped their hand about what motivates their predictions.

"We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have,” Stephen Schneider, a professor of Biology at Stanford University, said to Discover magazine in 1989. “Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”

Williams also cites Senator Timothy Wirth, a Democrat from Colorado, who said in 1988: "We've got to ... try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong ... we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy."

Complete text: https://www.foxnews.com/science/10-times-experts-predicted-the-world-would-end-by-now



Astute observers will note that's only nine.....#5 apparently was destroyed, presumably by man-made global warming.

What other explanation could there be?.....:D
 
One of the reasons I feel that any Presidential candidate who utters these words "Climate change is the existential threat of our time" or words similar to those, is horrendously unqualified for elected office.
 
One of the reasons I feel that any Presidential candidate who utters these words "Climate change is the existential threat of our time" or words similar to those, is horrendously unqualified for elected office.

Truth is the first casualty of politics....
 
A Top Ten List, sort of:

1: GLOBAL WARMING TO WIPE NATIONS "OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH" IF CLIMATE CHANGE NOT ADDRESSED BY YEAR 2000

In 1989, the Associated Press relayed a warning from a U.N. official:

"A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000."

2: MASS STARVATION BY 1975

In 1967, a best-selling book came out called “Famine 1975! America’s Decision: Who Will Survive?”

It predicted mass starvation around the developing world due to increasing population. “Today’s crisis can move in only one direction – toward catastrophe,” it warned.

3: GLOBAL FREEZING AS DANGEROUS AS NUCLEAR WAR

Global cooling was once a worry to many, such as University of California at Davis professor Kenneth Watt, who warned that present trends would make the world “eleven degrees colder in the year 2000 ... about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

British science writer Nigel Calder was just as worried. "The threat of a new ice age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of wholesale death and misery for mankind,” Calder warned in International Wildlife magazine in 1975.

4: MASSIVE WARMING BY THE YEAR 2000

The same U.N. official who predicted the loss of entire nations by the year 2000 also claimed: "the most conservative scientific estimate [is] that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years.”

But looking back from 2019, the temperature rose about half of a degree Celsius since 1989, according to NASA.

6: AL GORE SAYS 10 YEARS ARE LEFT IN 2006

In 2006, while promoting his movie “An Inconvenient Truth”, Al Gore said that humanity had only 10 years left before the world would reach a point of no return.

Gore’s movie also featured animations of water inundating Manhattan and Florida.

Yet Gore’s critics point out that just a few years later, he bought an $8 million beach-front property near Los Angeles.

7: ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHE WILL CAUSE “NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST” BY THE YEAR 2000

In 1982, U.N. official Mostafa Tolba, executive director of the UN Environment Program, warned:

“By the turn of the century, an environmental catastrophe will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust.”

No such disaster occurred.

8: MASS EXTINCTION BY 1995

In 1970, Sen. Gaylord Nelson (D-Wisc.) – often considered the “father of Earth Day” – cited the secretary of the Smithsonian, who “believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

That did not happen.

9: METALS DEPLETED BY 1990

Scientist Harrison Brown predicted in Scientific American that lead, zinc, tin, gold and silver deposits would be fully depleted before 1990.

But mining companies found new technologies and reserves, such that by 2019, none of those minerals were near depletion.

10: THE REAL REASON?

Economist Walter E. Williams says environmentalists have occasionally tipped their hand about what motivates their predictions.

"We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have,” Stephen Schneider, a professor of Biology at Stanford University, said to Discover magazine in 1989. “Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”

Williams also cites Senator Timothy Wirth, a Democrat from Colorado, who said in 1988: "We've got to ... try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong ... we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy."

Complete text: https://www.foxnews.com/science/10-times-experts-predicted-the-world-would-end-by-now



Astute observers will note that's only nine.....#5 apparently was destroyed, presumably by man-made global warming.

What other explanation could there be?.....:D

1. Global warming will wipe nations off the Earth. It is inevitable.
2. The author of a popular best-seller is not an expert. But here we are and global famine is widespread, however little overpopulation has to do with it.
3. Yes, the minority of experts who thought anthropogenic cooling forcings would outweigh anthropogenic warming forcings were wrong. The contention among experts was settled by the evidence, and for the last 40 years there has been a robust expert consensus that human activity was causing the Earth to warm.
4. It is dishonest to say that the prediction of a 1-7 degree Fahrenheit rise was falsified by the 0.6 degree Celsius actual rise. After all, 0.6 degrees Celsius is 1.1 degree Fahrenheit, within the preferred range.
5. Removed because it was embarrassingly confirmed so stunningly not even the dumbest winger could doubt it?
6. We have passed points of no return. It is inevitable now, for example, that Manhattan and most of Florida will be inundated by rising seas.
7. Climate change and pollution annually kill about 70,000 people. That’s almost as many people in 2 years as the Hiroshima bomb killed.
8. I doubt he quoted the director accurately. At any point, one person’s wrong projection does not mean that expertise is useless or that something accepted by millions of experts can be rejected out of hand without evidence.
9. Again, wrong and stupid. But his position was not a consensus position of all the experts supported by an overwhelming corpus of evidence.
10. A maliciously dishonest misquotation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/climatesight.org/2009/04/12/the-schneider-quote/amp/
 
1. Global warming will wipe nations off the Earth. It is inevitable.

So what happened to 2000? So now is just *inevitable*?

Hey, about we agree that global warming just destroy white countries? Would that work for you?
 
So what happened to 2000? So now is just *inevitable*?

Hey, about we agree that global warming just destroy white countries? Would that work for you?

2000 was the (approximate) deadline to take action to avoid setting in motion a process that would eventually result in those countries’ obliteration. It was never the projection that the countries would be destroyed by 2000, that is just selective illiteracy striking.
 
So what happened to 2000? So now is just *inevitable*?

Hey, about we agree that global warming just destroy white countries? Would that work for you?

It is mostly going to be brown people living in the countries that will first be destroyed by global warming. But interesting that racial conspiracy theories are your fall-back position when your original conspiracy theories are rebutted.
 
It is mostly going to be brown people living in the countries that will first be destroyed by global warming. But interesting that racial conspiracy theories are your fall-back position when your original conspiracy theories are rebutted.

What conspiracy theory of mine had been rebutted?
 
2000 was the (approximate) deadline to take action to avoid setting in motion a process that would eventually result in those countries’ obliteration. It was never the projection that the countries would be destroyed by 2000, that is just selective illiteracy striking.
Ok, since we missed the deadline..............when will countries be "obliterated"?

Give us a new year to worry about.:D
 
It is mostly going to be brown people living in the countries that will first be destroyed by global warming. But interesting that racial conspiracy theories are your fall-back position when your original conspiracy theories are rebutted.

So you're saying brown people are inferior because they can't adapt to *climate change* as well add white people. Sounds pretty racist to me.
 
No, brown people are in an inferior position due to geography and imperialist exploitation.
Which countries full of brown people will be the first to be "obliterated" by MMGW and "imerialist exploitation"?

Be specific, and give us the dates of their demise.
 
The one that says that scientists are making up the theory of AGW in order to control us.

I don't believe that. I believe politicians are using the theory of AGW to control us. And their policy is make it significantly clear that it is fact, not theory.

But thanks for admitting AGW is a theory. Oops.
 
There are island countries where the people have already by necessity all moved to higher ground but that higher ground will still be inundated.

Dumb brown people never heard of boats and/or airplanes to get off said Islands?

By the way, which islands would this be, and what date will they go under?
 
Ok, since we missed the deadline..............when will countries be "obliterated"?

Give us a new year to worry about.:D

The Maldives and Marshall Islands will have to be evacuated by about 2100. Unless carbon emissions growth levels off within the next 13 or so years, Tuvalu and Nauru will have to be evacuated by 2200 and possibly much earlier. By 2050 all 4 of these countries will no longer have potable groundwater due to rising sea levels and more than half of their land area will flood every year.
 
I don't believe that. I believe politicians are using the theory of AGW to control us. And their policy is make it significantly clear that it is fact, not theory.

But thanks for admitting AGW is a theory. Oops.

A theory is something that is stronger than any other conclusion scientists reach. Thanks for exposing your illiteracy about science, “thinker.” The politicians didn’t create the theory, and the top post was attacking the idea of listening to experts, not “politicians.”
 
Dumb brown people never heard of boats and/or airplanes to get off said Islands?

By the way, which islands would this be, and what date will they go under?

If they all have to take boats or airplanes to move to other countries, their countries will be destroyed.
 
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