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This is really upsetting.....what IS Obama doing? After his comment the other day about not having a strategy (which I took as basically letting the enemy know he has no idea what to do), I'm hoping that he actually does, secretly, have a plan & it's being put into place now. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that he actually does have something in the works to destroy these terrorists but this was his way of throwing them off.

But I doubt it. I expect any day to have a "Breaking News" report come on TV that another 9/11 has happened in the US. The anniversary will be in about 2 weeks....lets pray everything will be ok!
 
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Horror: Video emerged Thursday showing ISIS militants marching 250 Syrian soldiers, lad only in their underwear, to a mass execution near the key northern Tabqa air base

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-ground-Iraq-airstrikes.html#ixzz3BmqpHG7f
This is really upsetting.....what IS Obama doing? After his comment the other day about not having a strategy (which I took as basically letting the enemy know he has no idea what to do), I'm hoping that he actually does, secretly, have a plan & it's being put into place now. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that he actually does have something in the works to destroy these terrorists but this was his way of throwing them off.

But I doubt it. I expect any day to have a "Breaking News" report come on TV that another 9/11 has happened in the US. The anniversary will be in about 2 weeks....lets pray everything will be ok!

Spreading to Egypt:

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Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis, who have been described as Egypt's most dangerous militant group, has released a shocking new video in which four men, accused of being Israeli Mossad spies, are beheaded

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In the video, the captives can be seen kneeling on the floor with armed men in black masks standing behind them as one of the militants reads out a statement. Minutes later the four men have been beheaded

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...recent-Islamist-beheadings.html#ixzz3BmwbRYmQ

We better get our shit together, pronto...
 
EVERYONE should be crying out to the world leaders to DO SOMETHING! I don't believe this is JUST up to the US to stop this. What are the other countries planning to do to help? Something has to happen soon, they only get stronger every day we ignore this tragedy!
 
EVERYONE should be crying out to the world leaders to DO SOMETHING! I don't believe this is JUST up to the US to stop this. What are the other countries planning to do to help? Something has to happen soon, they only get stronger every day we ignore this tragedy!

That's precisely what Obama is working to do right now, as the usual mindless carpers screech at him to start bombing in more places. Iraq, in particular, has to get its act together and its soldiers must root ISIS out of the towns and cities it occupies. I don't think Americans will support US soldiers doing it, at a cost of tens of thousands of casualties, televised beheadings of captured US soldiers, and the like.
 
That's precisely what Obama is working to do right now, as the usual mindless carpers screech at him to start bombing in more places. Iraq, in particular, has to get its act together and its soldiers must root ISIS out of the towns and cities it occupies. I don't think Americans will support US soldiers doing it, at a cost of tens of thousands of casualties, televised beheadings of captured US soldiers, and the like.

So you KNOW what Obama is working on? Nobody else does. But I do hope you're right. Iraq is never going to get it's act together (that's my opinion anyway). You're also right that Americans will not support boots on the ground again....you know that ISIS would try to only capture them so they can make videos of beheading our soldiers. That's one thing Obama better not even consider!!
 
So you KNOW what Obama is working on? Nobody else does. But I do hope you're right. Iraq is never going to get it's act together (that's my opinion anyway). You're also right that Americans will not support boots on the ground again....you know that ISIS would try to only capture them so they can make videos of beheading our soldiers. That's one thing Obama better not even consider!!

Obama and his people are obviously not broadcasting what they're doing, but media accounts based on leaks, here and abroad, report on the discussions. Iraq is obviously the key player, but the discussions also involve other Middle East and European countries. The ISIS problem is obviously not just a US problem.

And it's obviously complex. As you say, Americans have no appetite right now for putting US soldiers in charge of ro0ting ISIS out of populated areas, either in Iraq or Syria. So, what to do? ISIS cannot be defeated with bombs alone. Who will provide the soldiers? Iraq? Somebody else? And what about Syria? Everyone has been calling for weakening Assad - do we now form an allegiance with him, so his soldiers can better fight ISIS? Syrian soldiers have been getting their asses kicked so far.

It's truly a conundrum. So complex that not even Obama haters are being specific about what should be done - they just screech "Do something!" Unhelpful, as always.
 
Obama and his people are obviously not broadcasting what they're doing, but media accounts based on leaks, here and abroad, report on the discussions. Iraq is obviously the key player, but the discussions also involve other Middle East and European countries. The ISIS problem is obviously not just a US problem.

And it's obviously complex. As you say, Americans have no appetite right now for putting US soldiers in charge of ro0ting ISIS out of populated areas, either in Iraq or Syria. So, what to do? ISIS cannot be defeated with bombs alone. Who will provide the soldiers? Iraq? Somebody else? And what about Syria? Everyone has been calling for weakening Assad - do we now form an allegiance with him, so his soldiers can better fight ISIS? Syrian soldiers have been getting their asses kicked so far.

It's truly a conundrum. So complex that not even Obama haters are being specific about what should be done - they just screech "Do something!" Unhelpful, as always.

Of course anyone knows we can't expect Obama himself to find an answer....that's what he has other people for. I think much of the time we screech DO SOMETHING, it's not just directed at Obama, it's directed to WHOEVER has the ability to come up with a plan. I know it's not an easy decision....do we bomb the crap out of the whole country (I sometimes think we should)? Is anyone putting any "plans" in place here in the US in case ISIS is already here (which many believe they are)?
 
This is really upsetting.....what IS Obama doing? After his comment the other day about not having a strategy (which I took as basically letting the enemy know he has no idea what to do), I'm hoping that he actually does, secretly, have a plan & it's being put into place now. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that he actually does have something in the works to destroy these terrorists but this was his way of throwing them off.

But I doubt it. I expect any day to have a "Breaking News" report come on TV that another 9/11 has happened in the US. The anniversary will be in about 2 weeks....lets pray everything will be ok!
What would you suggest?

So far, Obama has done a good job. Unlike the prior two presidents, there hasn't been a large terrorist attack on America on Obama's watch. We're no longer losing troops in Iraq, and are losing far fewer troops than before Obama in Afghanistan. Our military is no longer being depleted and exhausted the way it was. Our approval ratings abroad are up compared to where they were before Obama. In light of that success, I'm hesitant to second-guess Obama, other than in cases where I can offer up specific ideas about what he should be doing differently.
 
Of course anyone knows we can't expect Obama himself to find an answer....that's what he has other people for. I think much of the time we screech DO SOMETHING, it's not just directed at Obama, it's directed to WHOEVER has the ability to come up with a plan. I know it's not an easy decision....do we bomb the crap out of the whole country (I sometimes think we should)? Is anyone putting any "plans" in place here in the US in case ISIS is already here (which many believe they are)?

All fair points.

But some haters, and even some mainstream media, are demanding immediate US military attacks beyond those already ongoing in Iraq. If time is put into the process of enlisting allies, gathering intel, and putting into effect a thoughtful response, we hear the chorus of "Obama is dithering! We want bombs, and we want them NOW!!!"

Thankfully, Obama just ignores such noise.
 
This is really upsetting.....what IS Obama doing? After his comment the other day about not having a strategy (which I took as basically letting the enemy know he has no idea what to do), I'm hoping that he actually does, secretly, have a plan & it's being put into place now. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that he actually does have something in the works to destroy these terrorists but this was his way of throwing them off.

But I doubt it. I expect any day to have a "Breaking News" report come on TV that another 9/11 has happened in the US. The anniversary will be in about 2 weeks....lets pray everything will be ok!
Obama's only comment during a crisis is "FORE"
 
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