Now we see why some protests are more violent

[EatTheRich]

Portland sees peaceful night of protests following withdrawal of federal agents

Thursday night’s protest passed off without major incident or intervention by the police in the absence of federal officers

www.theguardian.com

Because policy decisions are made with the intent to provoke violent responses.

 

[RickWA]

Portland sees peaceful night of protests following withdrawal of federal agents

Thursday night’s protest passed off without major incident or intervention by the police in the absence of federal officers

www.theguardian.com

Because policy decisions are made with the intent to provoke violent responses.

Actually, allow a local to share some reality.

What changed here is that the actual protestors finally took ownership of their demonstration. Rather than standing by as the arsonists in their midst got started...they intervened repeatedly and stopped those who began climbing the fence, knocked a match out of the hand of a rioter, and so forth. This is what had been missing previously...in the six weeks before the feds came to Portland, and the two weeks after.

 

[EatTheRich]

Actually, allow a local to share some reality.

What changed here is that the actual protestors finally took ownership of their demonstration. Rather than standing by as the arsonists in their midst got started...they intervened repeatedly and stopped those who began climbing the fence, knocked a match out of the hand of a rioter, and so forth. This is what had been missing previously...in the six weeks before the feds came to Portland, and the two weeks after.

The protesters had always been doing that, except when prevented from doing so by police tear gas and rubber bullets.

 

[RickWA]

The protesters had always been doing that, except when prevented from doing so by police tear gas and rubber bullets.

No they hadn’t. Again, please stop necessitating “truth injections”.

 

[resident_evil]

Portland sees peaceful night of protests following withdrawal of federal agents

Thursday night’s protest passed off without major incident or intervention by the police in the absence of federal officers

www.theguardian.com

Because policy decisions are made with the intent to provoke violent responses.

Did they burn down the Federal Court House like they wanted to?

 

[EatTheRich]

Did they burn down the Federal Court House like they wanted to?

No, as soon as federal troops were removed the protest organizers gained the opportunity to neutralize that threat.

 

[resident_evil]

No, as soon as federal troops were removed the protest organizers gained the opportunity to neutralize that threat.

Good thing the Feds kept them from burning up the multi-milllion dollar building until the governor finally sent State Police to guard the property. Who said communists can't be disciplined? Not I.

 

[RickWA]

No, as soon as federal troops were removed the protest organizers gained the opportunity to neutralize that threat.

Why didn’t they do that during the first FIVE WEEKS before any feds were mobilized? Just curious.

 

[EatTheRich]

Why didn’t they do that during the first FIVE WEEKS before any feds were mobilized? Just curious.

They did. The threat to burn the courthouse didn’t exist till the feds escalated the situation and tied down the protest organizers who were maintaining order and peace.

 

[resident_evil]

They did. The threat to burn the courthouse didn’t exist till the feds escalated the situation and tied down the protest organizers who were maintaining order and peace.

That's a lie.

 

[EatTheRich]

So why did the threat appear the minute the Feds stepped in and disappear the minute they withdrew?

 

[RickWA]

They did. The threat to burn the courthouse didn’t exist till the feds escalated the situation and tied down the protest organizers who were maintaining order and peace.

False. Completely 100% false. The windows were broken repeatedly, the ensuing plywood was repeatedly vandalized, lit on fire, etc. for WEEKS before the feds were mobilized. The federal building and the justice center had been ground zero the entire duration beginning in late May.

Stop lying.

 

[EatTheRich]

False. Completely 100% false. The windows were broken repeatedly, the ensuing plywood was repeatedly vandalized, lit on fire, etc. for WEEKS before the feds were mobilized. The federal building and the justice center had been ground zero the entire duration beginning in late May.

Stop lying.

And protest organizers consistently nipped those abortive efforts in the bud ... until the Feds showed up and started kidnapping them, leaving the tiny handful of looters a free hand to run rampant.

 

[RickWA]

And protest organizers consistently nipped those abortive efforts in the bud ... until the Feds showed up and started kidnapping them, leaving the tiny handful of looters a free hand to run rampant.

No they did not. The fence was routinely scaled, cut, power-sawed, plywood facade repeatedly burned, etc. The footage exists. This didn’t start just two weeks ago.

Why do you lie so much?

 

[EatTheRich]

No they did not. The fence was routinely scaled, cut, power-sawed, plywood facade repeatedly burned, etc. The footage exists. This didn’t start just two weeks ago.

Why do you lie so much?

Not a lie. All that shows is that extremists and provocateurs were trying to cause trouble. That they never got farther than little fires and damage to a fence speaks to the sustained efforts of protest organizers to stop them.

 

[RickWA]

Not a lie. All that shows is that extremists and provocateurs were trying to cause trouble. That they never got farther than little fires and damage to a fence speaks to the sustained efforts of protest organizers to stop them.

They wrecked all kinds of stuff. Wanton torching, stabbings, molotov cocktails, nightly violence for well over a month before feds were mobilized. NIGHTLY.
I get it. You are in the sack with evil. I’m not going to contest your tireless lying here. This is it for me in this strand. You are being DEMONSTRABLY dishonest. The violence has been VERY regular. It had nothing to do with feds.

I WILL say that the protestors finally stepping up and owning correction of some in their midst is a positive...if seven-week-late development. I hope they continue to police their own.

 

[EatTheRich]

Bottom line: all it took to end major violence was for the Feds to withdraw.

 

[resident_evil]

Bottom line: all it took to end major violence was for the Feds to withdraw.

Wait a couple of days. Or for the next lying excuse to crop up.