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NRA/GOP say NO to ATF director

JuliefromOhio

JuliefromOhio

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who's your daddy, gun lovers?

"The ATF has been without a director since the position was first required to be confirmed by the Senate in 2006. President George W. Bush’s first nominee, Michael J. Sullivan, was blocked by three Republican senators who accused Sullivan of not doing enough to end the ATF’s “overly burdensome regulatory policies” on gun owners.

overly burdensome regulatory policies, my ass.

The National Rifle Association vowed to fight Obama’s first nominee, Andrew Traver, who headed the ATF’s Chicago field office, accusing him of being “deeply aligned with gun-control advocates and anti-gun activities.”

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/..._atf-operation-andrew-traver-fast-and-furious
 
JuliefromOhio said:
who's your daddy, gun lovers?

"The ATF has been without a director since the position was first required to be confirmed by the Senate in 2006. President George W. Bush’s first nominee, Michael J. Sullivan, was blocked by three Republican senators who accused Sullivan of not doing enough to end the ATF’s “overly burdensome regulatory policies” on gun owners.

overly burdensome regulatory policies, my ass.

The National Rifle Association vowed to fight Obama’s first nominee, Andrew Traver, who headed the ATF’s Chicago field office, accusing him of being “deeply aligned with gun-control advocates and anti-gun activities.”

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/..._atf-operation-andrew-traver-fast-and-furious
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Good morning, Julie.... what's your point?
 
You should check in with your buddy William Pierce on this. He had some great ideas on how to disarm the population of "undesireables" in America, in the same way your German friends did it back in the 1930s. I'm sure you would agree...
 
Terrorists must snicker when they hear their Republican buddies wailing about how difficult it is to get guns in the US.
 
marvin martian said:
You should check in with your buddy William Pierce on this. He had some great ideas on how to disarm the population of "undesireables" in America, in the same way your German friends did it back in the 1930s. I'm sure you would agree...
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Yeah that is relevant...Comparing modern day America to Nazi Germany.....Loser
 
JuliefromOhio said:
that the NRA interferes with the proper functioning of our government.
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It's a pretty influential position, Director of the ATF; I would think people who can expect to be affected by it, would have something to say about it. That isn't "interfering" IMO; (and even an FBI SAIC held the opinion that the guy was a douchebag.)
 
freyasman said:
It's a pretty influential position, Director of the ATF; I would think people who can expect to be affected by it, would have something to say about it. That isn't "interfering" IMO; (and even an FBI SAIC held the opinion that the guy was a douchebag.)
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Uh-oh, common sense (don't expect them to listen -- we have to have someone who wants to make it impossible to get an FFL or a C&R -- for the sake of the children).
 
trapdoor said:
Uh-oh, common sense (don't expect them to listen -- we have to have someone who wants to make it impossible to get an FFL or a C&R -- for the sake of the children).
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I wonder if I'm qualified for that job... I could probably fix some of the more screwed up stuff there in the 6 months or so before Schumer and Feinstein hired someone to murder me... :)
 
freyasman said:
It's a pretty influential position, Director of the ATF; I would think people who can expect to be affected by it, would have something to say about it. That isn't "interfering" IMO; (and even an FBI SAIC held the opinion that the guy was a douchebag.)
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how would the NRA be affected by the ATF? does the NRA support the illegal use and trafficking of firearms?

Our Mission

ATF is a unique law enforcement agency in the United State Department of Justice that protects our communities from violent criminals, criminal organizations, the illegal use and trafficking of firearms, the illegal use and storage of explosives, acts of arson and bombings, acts of terrorism, and the illegal diversion of alcohol and tobacco products. We partner with communities, industries, law enforcement, and public safety agencies to safeguard the public we serve through information sharing, training, research and use of technology.
 
Pretty sad that even a nominee from a Republican President is blocked.

It all seems to be a pattern of obstruction regarding gun laws and their enforcement: Prevent the appointment of any nominee for the Director of the ATF, resulting in a series of interim appointments that provide no clear leadership or direction for the agency. Next, funding for the entire ATF is restricted and a hiring freeze instituted that has resulted in the agency having the same number of agents as it had in 1972(?!?). The net result is an agency largely incapable of fulfilling it's mission, which suits gun afficianados perfectly - gives them an opportunity to whine about "enforcing the laws already on the books" whenever there is mass shooting. If they were serious about enforcing those laws they wouldn't work so hard at obstructing that enforcement.
 
marvin martian said:
You should check in with your buddy William Pierce on this. He had some great ideas on how to disarm the population of "undesireables" in America, in the same way your German friends did it back in the 1930s. I'm sure you would agree...
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Hey Marvy, maybe you should check with the American people, even arch conservative South Carolina is polling at 86% in favor of universal background checks. In the same poll says they will not vote for republicons because of their votes on gun control.

"Although Sanford's unpopularity is clearly the main reason Democrats have a chance to win in this district, it's interesting to note that there is some backlash against Republicans over last week's vote on background checks. 86% of voters in the district say they support them to only 12% opposed, and 45% of voters say the GOP's opposition to them makes it less likely they'll support the party in the next election compared to only 21% who consider it a positive." Public Policy Polling-SC
 
JuliefromOhio said:
how would the NRA be affected by the ATF? does the NRA support the illegal use and trafficking of firearms?
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For example, the laws just passed by the Nazis in New York made previously legal firearms illegal overnight and their owners became instant felons. Those law abiding citizens, who did absolutely nothing wrong, are now subject to interdiction by the ATF. The NRA lobbies to prevent this kind of miscarriage of justice. That's what lobbyists do. The NRA lobbies on behalf of gun owners to pretect their second amendment rights. It's not that the ATF affects the NRA, it's that the ATF affects the NRA's constituents.
 
Fun fact: Michael J. Sullivan is currently a candidate for the Massachusetts US Senate seat vacated by John Kerry.
 
marvin martian said:
They wouldn't BE in the US if lefties didn't have a compulsion to protect them and bring them here to wreak havoc...
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What a ditz you are Marvy. It was the Bushistas that granted over 10,000 Iraqis, and the two bombers in Boston, "political asylum", not a democrat or liberal. What a looney tune you are.
 
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