O-Care Failure.... and excuses.

[Jen]

Obama's excuse for the failure of the roll out will go down in history much the same as certain other presidential (and other important) excuses have gone:

Obama:

“Obviously my most recent concern has been that my website’s not working,” he said “and we’re evaluating why it is exactly that I didn’t know soon enough that [it] wasn’t going to work the way it needed to. But my priority now has been to just make sure that it works.”

Bruce Ismay:

“We’re evaluating why it is exactly that I didn’t know soon enough that the ship couldn’t avoid icebergs the way it needed to”

Bill Clinton:

“We’re evaluating why it is exactly that I didn’t know soon enough that ‘I did not have sexual relations with that woman’ wasn’t true the way that it needed to be”

While the other examples here impacted many people, their lives, and in the case of the Titanic, their loss of life..... Obama's O-Care statement will impact the whole nation in some way or another.

You would think that maybe we would learn to evaluate better BEFORE something happens rather than wait and evaluate afterwards.

Article Link

 

[Saladin2]

Actually the web site is running much better and many of the exchanges in some of the states are doing quite well.....Which is bad news for the Republican/Tea Party crowd who have pretty much staked their entire campaign on it's failure.....Watch each week as it improves and watch the GOP start to panic

 

[Jen]

Actually the web site is running much better and many of the exchanges in some of the states are doing quite well.....Which is bad news for the Republican/Tea Party crowd who have pretty much staked their entire campaign on it's failure.....Watch each week as it improves and watch the GOP start to panic

I am glad the web sites are running well. That was never what GOP hung anything on. It came as a very (unnecessarily) expensive surprise to everyone.

 

[Saladin2]

I am glad the web sites are running well. That was never what GOP hung anything on. It came as a very (unnecessarily) expensive surprise to everyone.

You might be glad (which I doubt) but your Republican/Tea party buddies aren't...They've staked everything on the ACA's failure....Time is on the President's side...Each day improvements made, lies de-bunked and more people obtain affordable health care...Which is a good thing for America

 

[Renee]

I am glad the web sites are running well. That was never what GOP hung anything on. It came as a very (unnecessarily) expensive surprise to everyone.

All you good Christians do is focus on $$. Never have I heard you talk about the millions and millions of Americans who have no healthcare and dealing with illnesses and injuries depend upon their ability to pay... doesn't your pastor talk about those who have to go without healthcare because they need to put food in the table? Doesn't he talk about the pain in children's bellies, that parents hope will go away?
You bash Obama and focus on the cost, or the enrollment fiasco...but do you honestly think that obamas goal was not moral? Do you not think he wants all Americans to be assured they will have healthcare? Do you think the pope is a bad man for wanting the same thing Obama wants..dignified work, education and healthcare? Or do you think he hates America and wants it to fail

 

[Saladin2]

All you good Christians do is focus on $$. Never have I heard you talk about the millions and millions of Americans who have no healthcare and dealing with illnesses and injuries depend upon their ability to pay... doesn't your pastor talk about those who have to go without healthcare because they need to put food in the table? Doesn't he talk about the pain in children's bellies, that parents hope will go away?
You bash Obama and focus on the cost, or the enrollment fiasco...but do you honestly think that obamas goal was not moral? Do you not think he wants all Americans to be assured they will have healthcare? Do you think the pope is a bad man for wanting the same thing Obama wants..dignified work, education and healthcare? Or do you think he hates America and wants it to fail

Unfortunately in America too many focus on the "us" verses "those" people.....

 

[Addy]

Love this quote... sorry, don't know the author.. A ship that has never gone aground has never left the dock..
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The Media Is Forced to Admit That The Obamacare Website is Fixed
Little by little the media is finally realizing what many of us have known for weeks, the ACA website is fixed and people are signing up.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/11/30/media-finally-catches-aca-website-fixed.html

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

Obama's excuse for the failure of the roll out will go down in history much the same as certain other presidential (and other important) excuses have gone:

Obama:

“Obviously my most recent concern has been that my website’s not working,” he said “and we’re evaluating why it is exactly that I didn’t know soon enough that [it] wasn’t going to work the way it needed to. But my priority now has been to just make sure that it works.”

Bruce Ismay:

“We’re evaluating why it is exactly that I didn’t know soon enough that the ship couldn’t avoid icebergs the way it needed to”
Bill Clinton:

“We’re evaluating why it is exactly that I didn’t know soon enough that ‘I did not have sexual relations with that woman’ wasn’t true the way that it needed to be”

While the other examples here impacted many people, their lives, and in the case of the Titanic, their loss of life..... Obama's O-Care statement will impact the whole nation in some way or another.

You would think that maybe we would learn to evaluate better BEFORE something happens rather than wait and evaluate afterwards.

Article Link

You can't actually evaluate something until it happens.

You CAN, however, plan for all contingencies. Something Obama failed to do.

 

[Jen]

You can't actually evaluate something until it happens.

You CAN, however, plan for all contingencies. Something Obama failed to do.

A good leader would have hired an actual CEO to make his website work. Sibelius is his CEO but she is not a web maker and she obviously hired people who knew little more than she did. A mediocre website maker could have made this one a success with a fraction of the money and a minute fraction of the time. I saw a man build a base in 30 minutes that would have worked . Plant that into large servers............and it would have worked for everyone. What they have today............ can't work for more than 50k or so at a time. WTH?????

It is obvious that the people that were hired were money suckers and thought they had just hit the gold mine with this one. They were robbers. And they are not being brought to justice and never will be. They have their money and are about to get a pile more of it. Lucky shysters. Rumor has it that they are Michelle's college buddies......... but so far that's just rumor.

 

[Jen]

All you good Christians do is focus on $$. Never have I heard you talk about the millions and millions of Americans who have no healthcare and dealing with illnesses and injuries depend upon their ability to pay... doesn't your pastor talk about those who have to go without healthcare because they need to put food in the table? Doesn't he talk about the pain in children's bellies, that parents hope will go away?
You bash Obama and focus on the cost, or the enrollment fiasco...but do you honestly think that obamas goal was not moral? Do you not think he wants all Americans to be assured they will have healthcare? Do you think the pope is a bad man for wanting the same thing Obama wants..dignified work, education and healthcare? Or do you think he hates America and wants it to fail

Why are you attacking my religion?
Is it now open season on religion?

Had our government not wasted so much money building a website that doesn't work - when anyone that knows anything about websites knows that one could have been built that would have serviced any number necessary in a fraction of the 3 years it took and a fraction of the money.

And had that been done, those people you speak of here might have had that money go toward their health care.

I would be fine with money spent on keeping and making people healthy. I am appalled that it was used on a stupid non-working website. And if you had any sense at all, instead of attacking my religion, you would have attacked those who wasted that money.

Can you be honest even for a minute, Renee. You are turning out to be one of the least honest posters on this board. Either that or you are the stupidest. Which is it? You tell me..............I"m not sure which it is.

 

[Renee]

Why are you attacking my religion?
Is it now open season on religion?

Had our government not wasted so much money building a website that doesn't work - when anyone that knows anything about websites knows that one could have been built that would have serviced any number necessary in a fraction of the 3 years it took and a fraction of the money.

And had that been done, those people you speak of here might have had that money go toward their health care.

I would be fine with money spent on keeping and making people healthy. I am appalled that it was used on a stupid non-working website. And if you had any sense at all, instead of attacking my religion, you would have attacked those who wasted that money.

Can you be honest even for a minute, Renee. You are turning out to be one of the least honest posters on this board. Either that or you are the stupidest. Which is it? You tell me..............I"m not sure which it is.

And you are one of the biggest hypocrites ...just think if we didn't go to war, just think if we didn't subsidize corporations, etc..you don't give a crap about the millions who don't have to panic if their children get sick.....and the joke is you blame the website as your excuse. Millions have healthcare that didn't have it before. Nice people would be happy.

 

[Jen]

And you are one of the biggest hypocrites ...just think if we didn't go to war, just think if we didn't subsidize corporations, etc..you don't give a crap about the millions who don't have to panic if their children get sick.....and the joke is you blame the website as your excuse. Millions have healthcare that didn't have it before. Nice people would be happy.

You don't even pretend to be a good person do you?
I am honest. You attack that.
I think honesty scares you or something.
I would hate to be like you.

 

[Renee]

You don't even pretend to be a good person do you?
I am honest. You attack that.
I think honesty scares you or something.
I would hate to be like you.

You are dishonest...i attack that
I think honesty scares you
I would hate to be you like you, living with constant hate and intolerance and fear
You don't even pretend to be a good person, do you?

 

[Caroljo]

You are dishonest...i attack that
I think honesty scares you
I would hate to be you like you, living with constant hate and intolerance and fear
You don't even pretend to be a good person, do you?

What's really kind of funny, is you are just what you posted above (bolded). You are in constant hate for anyone that doesn't think like you. Read what you post, does that sound like tolerance and love?

 

[Renee]

What's really kind of funny, is you are just what you posted above (bolded). You are in constant hate for anyone that doesn't think like you. Read what you post, does that sound like tolerance and love?

I wrote the exact thing Jen wrote to me, almost word for word. But it achieved its goal...lol...when I wrote it , it was hate, but when she wrote it ...it was ok. All I did was turn the tables using her terminology to show how hateful she is..and you fell for it.

 

[SW48]

What is the latest on ACA? Are the young and healthy people signing up?

It is hard to believe we know that people are getting health care that haven't had it and people are getting better plans for less money considering the new plans don't start until January 1st and the small company mandate continues to get delayed.

I would think all of us would agree that we don't know the answer to any of these questions.

And who really cares about the political aspect of who wins and who loses. Its the people that win or lose.

 

[Ben Arnold]

What is the latest on ACA? Are the young and healthy people signing up?

It is hard to believe we know that people are getting health care that haven't had it and people are getting better plans for less money considering the new plans don't start until January 1st and the small company mandate continues to get delayed.

I would think all of us would agree that we don't know the answer to any of these questions.

And who really cares about the political aspect of who wins and who loses. Its the people that win or lose.

Most not. They can stay on their parents plan longer, and typically they'll have jobs with plans soon after that.

 

[Addy]

Improvements on website.. many success stories related to ACA nowadays..
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HealthCare.gov Is Improved, Officials Say
WASHINGTON (AP) — Visitors to the government's health care website encounter fewer errors and the system now works most of the time, administration officials said Sunday in a progress report.

But they also acknowledged the rocky rollout of healthcare.gov included hundreds of software bugs, inadequate equipment and inefficient management.

The government says more than 50,000 people can log on to the website and more than 800,000 people will be able to shop for insurance coverage each day. It's a dramatic improvement from the first weeks of the system, which saw frustrated buyers watch their computer screens freeze, website crash and error messages multiply.

Amid all the problems with HealthCare.gov, President Barack Obama set a deadline for Saturday for several significant problems to be resolved. The administration organized a conference call with reporters Sunday morning to give a status report.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/01/healthcaregov-obamacare-website_n_4367450.html

https://www.facebook.com/acasuccessstories

 

[Caroljo]

Most not. They can stay on their parents plan longer, and typically they'll have jobs with plans soon after that.

What about those young people that were on their parents policy, then their parents lost their plans? Do you think the kids will go out and get their own, when they have other expenses like student loans to pay? Or will they let their student loans go so they can get insurance?

 

[Ben Arnold]

What about those young people that were on their parents policy, then their parents lost their plans? Do you think the kids will go out and get their own, when they have other expenses like student loans to pay? Or will they let their student loans go so they can get insurance?

Then yes; the likelihood increases they would need to get a policy some other way, most likely the Web based shop and see what if any assistance is available. But despite it being a large number, it's small percentage wise.

Thus the tactic the Right Wing Misinformation machine is going with: determine which group is a low percetage adopter by circumstance, add the lie that they're needed to make Obamacare work, and be up in arms about low early adopters! Ahhh! It's a total failure. Plus unicorns are not signing up either. Not a single one. What does that tell you? It's doomed since even before the start. They knew it in Middle Earth, centuries ago, when healers in the free market could bring dead princesses back to life more affordably than it costs to have your carpal tunnel claim rejected because it did not meet the pre existimg requirement; and was instead self inflicted when using the Obamacare Website.