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Obama rolls while Mitt steps in it big-time!

Bo-4

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Some may recall that i was tough on Obama's Denver performance: https://www.politicaljack.com/forum...butt-s-been-kicked-yep-Willard-won-(my-rant-)

So now, i'm entitled to gloat. That was a beat-down of epic proportion and Romney was seriously rattled by both Crowley and Barack. Rule 1: Don't try to redefine debate rules by rolling over a female moderator. He got away with that same nonsense against a WEAK Jim Lehrer, but Candy would have none of it. Rule two: You simply don't say things to a sitting president like "you'll get your turn" or "let me give you some advice".

On Willards "5 point plan" (what a joke.. this is as bad as Herman Cain's 9-9-9 ;-)

"He doesn't have a 5 point plan, he has a ONE point plan. And that plan is to make sure that folks at the top play by a different set of rules."

And there was Libya which Obama succeeded in taking off the table entirely (nice job by Crowley fact-checking his unprepared pathetic ass on the spot about what was said in the Rose Garden and nice job by the president of suggesting it was unpresidential and offensive to politicize the event before the facts were in.

Even Conservatives weren't happy with Willard's horrendous foreign policy showing (the centerpiece of next debate):

The National Journal’s Yuval Levin writes that the one factor Republicans should worry about is that “Romney was neither effective nor sure-footed on foreign policy in this debate.” Could they already be trying to play the expectations game? "Foreign policy", the Weekly Standard’s William Kristol notes; “isn’t Romney’s natural subject.”

So very true THIS:

“Gov. Romney was a very successful investor. If somebody came to you, governor, with a plan that said, 'Here, I want to spend $7 or $8 trillion and we’re going to pay for it but we can’t tell you until maybe after the election how we’re going to do it.’ You wouldn’t have taken such a sketchy deal and neither would you, the American people. We haven’t heard from the governor any specifics beyond Big Bird and eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood in terms of how he pays for that.”

AND:

“I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours, so it doesn’t take as long.”

AND:

The glorious moment at the very end when Mitt stepped in an especially ginormous pile by talking about 100% and opened the door for a sweet closing remark:

“When he said behind closed doors that 47 percent of the country considers themselves victims who refuse personal responsibility, think about who he was talking about: folks on social security who have worked all their lives; veterans, who sacrificed for this country; students, who are out there trying to hopefully advance their own dreams but also this country’s dreams; soldiers, who are overseas fighting for us right now; people who are working hard every day.”

Yep, foreign policy next Monday? Sweet! :-D
 
It was a joy to behold.

You and I both admitted that Obama's first debate was not a good one Bo but when one has one as good as this one for him, I will shout to the heavens.

They came out fighting and it went on to the end with Romney looking like he didn't know what hit him.

There was a focus group in Columbus, Ohio of 20 people, half men and half women with a good selection of different race and on only one issue did they all agree and it was Benghuzi. They all felt Romney was rude and disrespectful to the President. This was right after the debate ended and did not have breakdown on all issues or who they considered the winner at that time but I will try to find out.

I agree Candy Crowley who I was concerned about did a great job.
 
JUST THINK!

Three weeks from this morning we will know how it all turned out (unless it has to go to the USSC again). Months and months of agony we've suffered through just to get someone elected so they can begin to position themselves for the next election and it begins all over again. Barf barf.

I am comfortable in believing Obama will prevail. With each passing day I feel better about it. The move appears to being going in his direction. The only state I am concerned about right now is Florida and that's one to wonder about with so many golden agers sitting there waiting for the grim reaper and not realizing what a Romeny win could do to their apple cart.

It's too early to hold my breath. But the clock on the wall right beside my computer keeps ticking Nice sound. I'll be happy when the moment comes. I shall either say "great" to my fellow lefties or congratulate the rightwingers for pulling it off.

Grampa
 
Mitt Rmoney got his butt kicked, all the way from Libya to Detroit.

That's a mighty long way.. think he needs a little butt balm? I believe he will after getting it kicked from Florida out to La Jolla for his permanent retirement (and where his neighbors hate him ;-)
 
I agree Gramps that Presidential campaigns take up way too much time with way too much money spent but on the other hand, we have our say which is so important. I would never want to give that up and be like they are in so many countries.

It gets tiresome at times and I get my full but the one thing we have that others do not is that we care so much who is elected and we see it on PJ every day.
 
Yep, of the three mods i think Candy was the best one. The secret to beating Willard in a debate is to throw him off balance and get under his skin. Newt proved it and Obama learned that lesson.

It was a joy to behold.

You and I both admitted that Obama's first debate was not a good one Bo but when one has one as good as this one for him, I will shout to the heavens.

They came out fighting and it went on to the end with Romney looking like he didn't know what hit him.

There was a focus group in Columbus, Ohio of 20 people, half men and half women with a good selection of different race and on only one issue did they all agree and it was Benghuzi. They all felt Romney was rude and disrespectful to the President. This was right after the debate ended and did not have breakdown on all issues or who they considered the winner at that time but I will try to find out.

I agree Candy Crowley who I was concerned about did a great job.
 
I won't congratulate the wingers if they pull it off Gramps. Because if they do it will be their lies and voter suppression that got it done. It will be very bad for this country.

What i WILL do is start packing my bags for British Columbia or Costa Rica.

But i'm with you on election fatigue and getting it over with will be a massive relief.

JUST THINK!

Three weeks from this morning we will know how it all turned out (unless it has to go to the USSC again). Months and months of agony we've suffered through just to get someone elected so they can begin to position themselves for the next election and it begins all over again. Barf barf.

I am comfortable in believing Obama will prevail. With each passing day I feel better about it. The move appears to being going in his direction. The only state I am concerned about right now is Florida and that's one to wonder about with so many golden agers sitting there waiting for the grim reaper and not realizing what a Romeny win could do to their apple cart.

It's too early to hold my breath. But the clock on the wall right beside my computer keeps ticking Nice sound. I'll be happy when the moment comes. I shall either say "great" to my fellow lefties or congratulate the rightwingers for pulling it off.

Grampa
 
That's a mighty long way.. think he needs a little butt balm? I believe he will after getting it kicked from Florida out to La Jolla for his permanent retirement (and where his neighbors hate him ;-)

Maybe Ann can kiss it and make it all better?
 
good post Bo. Like almost all rightwingers, Mutt was his own worst enemy last night, and after being emboldened by the last one, thought the same thing would work again. This is why I suggested to cg the other night, that whether intentional or not, BHO's last performance could have been a trap for him, and he stepped right into it
 
good post Bo. Like almost all rightwingers, Mutt was his own worst enemy last night, and after being emboldened by the last one, thought the same thing would work again. This is why I suggested to cg the other night, that whether intentional or not, BHO's last performance could have been a trap for him, and he stepped right into it

I hate stepping in Mitt. It takes forever to get off your tennis shoes. Yep, he came across exactly as he is: clueless, spoiled and arrogant.
 
Great post, Bo and I ditto that!

So much of what the President said was great! He ropa-doped Romney...you could tell he was livid that the President had the gall to talk down to him.

Looking forward to the next debate!

Oh and did you read where Kerry said after all the debate prep he need an exorcisim of Romney. LOL
 
Many observers thought that Mitt Rmoney was just downright RUDE, both to our sitting President AND to the moderator, Candy Crowley. And being rude to a female moderator was particularly dumb on Rmoney's part. That alone might cost him a million female votes. He was in enough trouble with women voters as it was. Now he's in more trouble. I expect a pretty big pro-Obama bounce in the polls over the next few days, as a result of this debate.
 
Romney is, was and will always be rude.

Many observers thought that Mitt Rmoney was just downright RUDE, both to our sitting President AND to the moderator, Candy Crowley. And being rude to a female moderator was particularly dumb on Rmoney's part. That alone might cost him a million female votes. He was in enough trouble with women voters as it was. Now he's in more trouble. I expect a pretty big pro-Obama bounce in the polls over the next few days, as a result of this debate.

I thought he was incredibiliy rude in the first debate but everyone except Libs loved it. This time people were more focused and it helped that he was so rude to Candy and of course the President. If women support that scum bucket I'll never forgive them. It was great to watch the President push Romney's buttons. If you rewatch the debate look at Romney's eyes...you can tell he was pissed but had that phony smile pasted on his face. All in all he left himself open to so much that he's going to have a hard time over coming it. I agree, the polls will be very interesting.
 
Poor JK probably goes through a thorough steam cleaning by guys in hazmat suits in order to get the Mitt off following each practice session. :D

Great post, Bo and I ditto that!

So much of what the President said was great! He ropa-doped Romney...you could tell he was livid that the President had the gall to talk down to him.

Looking forward to the next debate!

Oh and did you read where Kerry said after all the debate prep he need an exorcisim of Romney. LOL
 
I agree with all the posts (where are the rightwingers?), our man hit one clean out of the ballpark and tagged each base as he headed for home.

My take on the whole thing is this....

Romney came out like a school bully who got in some pretty good punches and thinking he had won the fight. And just like the blowhard bully, when the other kid started hitting back, he didn't know what to do, no one else had ever stood up to him that way.
By the middle of the debate Romney figured it was time to get tough and aim a few blows below the belt. Too bad for him that Obama was expecting them and blocked them all. "My pension isn't as big as yours" was a great come back and threw Romney back a step or two.
Romney came back with a series of jabs with the Libya situation but ended up hitting himself in the face with the "It was four weeks before he called it a terrorist attack!" Even breaking the rules of the debate (because rules don't apply to him) and started asking Obama direct questions. Obama held his cool and simply said "Go ahead proceed" and Romney started swinging even wilder, almost foaming at the mouth, until the ref stepped in and smacked him with, "actually he did say that the next day." Romney went down to the mat for an eight count and never recovered.
Near the end of the debate Romney was coming off as a whining little rich kid who wasn't used to not getting his way and decided to go for few good jabs about "I care for 100% of Americans!", Obama saw him leading with his chin and nailed him with a KO punch with "He says , behind closed doors, that 47% of Americans feel like victims" and the fight was over. Romney wasn't down, but he was bleeding all over the stage and quickly exited for the dressing room where Annie could kiss it and make it all better. Obama stood out there like Balboa in Rocky II, a champ who took some licks but in the end came out on top.

I was pleasantly surprised at just what a fair moderator Crawley was, she tends to lean right, but she stayed middle of the road last night. Good for her.

Way to go champ!!!! Four more years!!!!!
 
I like it, Jammer, but I think Rocky III is a better analogy. In the first debate, President Obama was not ready for Mitt Rmoney's strategy of telling so many whoppers, and took it on the chin, just like Rocky Balboa did in his first fight with Clubber Lang. So, just like Rocky trained very hard for the rematch, Mr. Obama was much better prepared this time, and made Mitt Rmoney look silly---just as Rocky Balboa made Clubber Lang look silly in THEIR rematch.

Rmoney was throwing a lot of wild punches last night, that Obama was deftly dodging, just as Rocky did in that rematch with Clubber Lang.
 
Nicely put Jammer and LR! I think what i especially enjoyed was Barack's cold stare-downs all the while while ducking those punches and countering with devastating jabs and uppercuts. :D
 
I heard Romney convey this message many time:

‘I can create jobs if you make me the head of the US government, because government cannot create jobs.’

Also expressed as: Make me president of your government. I will make jobs. Government does not make Jobs!
 
Lol.. ain't it grand? OR, give me the highest government job in the land, and THEN i'll be specific on how i'll create jobs and pay for my 7 or 8 trillion in tax cuts and military growth (100,000 NEW gub-ment jobs).

Funny.. not a single RoC post in this thread. :D
 
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