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Obamacare Architects Rockefeller and Sebelius: Our Bill is Confusing....

Sgt Staples

Sgt Staples

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Obamacare Architects Rockefeller and Sebelius: Our Bill is Confusing Beyond Comprehension....

ROCKEFELLER: I'm of the belief that the ACA is probably the most complex piece of legislation ever passed by the United States Congress. Tax reform, obviously, is gonna be huge, too, but up to this point it's just beyond comprehension.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama...ller-its-beyond-comprehension/article/2526681

Kathleen Sebelius: Much confusion on ACA....(Obamacare)

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/obamacare-kathleen-sebelius-affordable-care-act-89775.html
 
It's now 20,000 pages long, and growing by the day. It's now 8x the size of the bill voted on in Congress.
It could very well be the worst piece of Trojan Horse legislative garbage ever passed, and quite possibly the most destructive since the Reconstruction.
 
But it bush's fault!!!!!!

Damn Butt-Hole Obama supporters don't have a clue as to what they're doing to this country. The Misery Party, and health care is only one of the many they're destroying. They're gonna bankrupt social security by refusing to reign in the rate of growth; ruin our currency and cause a massive financial crash.

It's kind of amazing watching them cheer their own destruction.

PRIVATIZE EVERYTHING!!!!
 
Sgt Staples said:
Obamacare Architects Rockefeller and Sebelius: Our Bill is Confusing Beyond Comprehension....

ROCKEFELLER: I'm of the belief that the ACA is probably the most complex piece of legislation ever passed by the United States Congress. Tax reform, obviously, is gonna be huge, too, but up to this point it's just beyond comprehension.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama...ller-its-beyond-comprehension/article/2526681

Kathleen Sebelius: Much confusion on ACA....(Obamacare)

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/obamacare-kathleen-sebelius-affordable-care-act-89775.html
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It's a bit like a jumbo jet. A jumbo jet is complicated beyond the ability of any individual to understand it. The time it takes to get a level of expertise necessary to understand its aerodynamics pretty much precludes having enough time to understand the mechanics of its engines, or the hydraulics, or the electronics in its navigation systems. So, no single person understands all of it. Yet, the fact it's beyond comprehension, taken as a whole, doesn't change the fact it flies. Teams of people work together to make sure each component functions correctly and comes together correctly. Sometimes there's trial-and-error in the process (as with the Dreamliner, which got grounded because the batteries don't work properly, yet, in the context of the demand the aircraft places on them). But a capacity for dealing with complexity that's beyond and individual's understanding is CRITICAL for making modern marvels work, whether it's a 777 jumbo jet or a modern healthcare system.
 
Arkady said:
It's a bit like a jumbo jet. A jumbo jet is complicated beyond the ability of any individual to understand it. The time it takes to get a level of expertise necessary to understand its aerodynamics pretty much precludes having enough time to understand the mechanics of its engines, or the hydraulics, or the electronics in its navigation systems. So, no single person understands all of it. Yet, the fact it's beyond comprehension, taken as a whole, doesn't change the fact it flies. Teams of people work together to make sure each component functions correctly and comes together correctly. Sometimes there's trial-and-error in the process (as with the Dreamliner, which got grounded because the batteries don't work properly, yet, in the context of the demand the aircraft places on them). But a capacity for dealing with complexity that's beyond and individual's understanding is CRITICAL for making modern marvels work, whether it's a 777 jumbo jet or a modern healthcare system.
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There are two problems with this analogy. The first is that the pilot IS supposed to know about the systems on his craft and understand well enough to deal with in-flight problems. No one has that level of knowledge about Obamacare.

The second is that when there's a problem with the jet, it gets grounded and doesn't fly until the problem is fixed. With Obamacare, we're just supposed to get aboard and ignore the problems -- don't worry, it's guaranteed to make it to the scene of the crash.
 
Arkady said:
It's a bit like a jumbo jet. A jumbo jet is complicated beyond the ability of any individual to understand it. The time it takes to get a level of expertise necessary to understand its aerodynamics pretty much precludes having enough time to understand the mechanics of its engines, or the hydraulics, or the electronics in its navigation systems. So, no single person understands all of it. Yet, the fact it's beyond comprehension, taken as a whole, doesn't change the fact it flies. Teams of people work together to make sure each component functions correctly and comes together correctly. Sometimes there's trial-and-error in the process (as with the Dreamliner, which got grounded because the batteries don't work properly, yet, in the context of the demand the aircraft places on them). But a capacity for dealing with complexity that's beyond and individual's understanding is CRITICAL for making modern marvels work, whether it's a 777 jumbo jet or a modern healthcare system.
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Side note here? It has taken me 3 months to figure out all the new things on my car!

Until things are placed into practice there will be confusion,but the blips will be ironed out.

FYI the darn bill will not be in place until 2014! Next year. Nothing new is perfect,that is why they change things as they find out what is better!
 
Corruptbuddha said:
Some of it won't be in place until 2014....some of it is already in place.

And all of it sucks.
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Yeah, I know all those young kids who could not afford insurance are all dead beats. Those who could not get insurance because of per-existing conditions.

Worldly, I have to ask.Do you ever think of any one but your own wants?
 
trapdoor said:
There are two problems with this analogy. The first is that the pilot IS supposed to know about the systems on his craft and understand well enough to deal with in-flight problems. No one has that level of knowledge about Obamacare.

The second is that when there's a problem with the jet, it gets grounded and doesn't fly until the problem is fixed. With Obamacare, we're just supposed to get aboard and ignore the problems -- don't worry, it's guaranteed to make it to the scene of the crash.
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What makes you think that nobody has enough knowledge of Obamacare to "fly it"? As for your second point, if there were a serious enough problem with Obamacare, I'd advocate "grounding it." But, at this point, it's more like the on-board coffee maker isn't working, the ticketing system isn't running as smoothly as expected, some luggage is getting lost, and the entertainment system is static-y.
 
To further the "airliner analogy"......It's the guys at Delta who telling people the American Airlines plane is dangerous.
 
No one has that level of knowledge about Obamacare.

Would it help if the Prez agreed to sit alone in the Republican chamber and publicly answer any questions they had until they ran out of them? Let's put him on the spot, eh?

Oh, wait. He already did that. Long ago. And they sat there scowling like disgruntled kids in the Principle's office....afraid to ask because they didn't really want answers. Even little Eddie Munster had no questions. He just took the opportunity relieve his verbal diarrhea.

With Obamacare, we're just supposed to get aboard and ignore the problems -- don't worry, it's guaranteed to make it to the scene of the crash.

You have an odd take on what you're "supposed to do" to go with your baseless speculation that this plane hasn't been inspected. How many years would you like your flight to be delayed to accommodate the white knuckle paranoids who don't know shit about airplanes?
 
Arkady said:
What makes you think that nobody has enough knowledge of Obamacare to "fly it"? As for your second point, if there were a serious enough problem with Obamacare, I'd advocate "grounding it." But, at this point, it's more like the on-board coffee maker isn't working, the ticketing system isn't running as smoothly as expected, some luggage is getting lost, and the entertainment system is static-y.
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You're kidding, right? The success of Obamacare rests on two things: People paying the "mandate" tax and people participating in the state-level exchanges. NEITHER OF THESE IS CURRENTLY WORKING. The law goes into effect next year. To use your jumbo jet analogy, we've already taxied to the ramp and are awaiting takeoff clearance from the tower, our on-board radios aren't working and the port engine smokes.

And no, no one knows enough about this Rube Goldberg thing to make it taxi in a straight line, much less fly it.
 
MaryAnne said:
Yeah, I know all those young kids who could not afford insurance are all dead beats. Those who could not get insurance because of per-existing conditions.

Worldly, I have to ask.Do you ever think of any one but your own wants?
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Perhaps you nested this in the wrong post?
 
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