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"Oh, By The Way....."

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Another little ObamaCare gem that the administration hopes you will take no note of. Some of you will happily comply:


In a colossal “oh by the way” revelation, last Friday afternoon the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), a federal agency under the United States Department of Health and Human Services (that would be the executive branch run by President Obama), quietly released a report exposing the fact that under Obamacare, two-thirds of Americans who work at small businesses will see their insurance premiums increase. So this report – which is more than two years late – says over 11 million American workers will have higher health insurance premiums because of Obamacare. Despite the administration’s attempts to, as House Speaker John Boehner put it, “delay and deemphasize” the report, we now have it straight from the Obama administration that Obamacare will raise health-insurance premiums for American workers. That is a far cry from Obama’s 2008 campaign promise that families would see lower health insurance premiums – $2,500 lower, to be exact – under Obamacare.


Complete text: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...iders-another-day-another-obamacare-disaster/
 
Another little ObamaCare gem that the administration hopes you will take no note of. Some of you will happily comply:


In a colossal “oh by the way” revelation, last Friday afternoon the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), a federal agency under the United States Department of Health and Human Services (that would be the executive branch run by President Obama), quietly released a report exposing the fact that under Obamacare, two-thirds of Americans who work at small businesses will see their insurance premiums increase. So this report – which is more than two years late – says over 11 million American workers will have higher health insurance premiums because of Obamacare. Despite the administration’s attempts to, as House Speaker John Boehner put it, “delay and deemphasize” the report, we now have it straight from the Obama administration that Obamacare will raise health-insurance premiums for American workers. That is a far cry from Obama’s 2008 campaign promise that families would see lower health insurance premiums – $2,500 lower, to be exact – under Obamacare.


Complete text: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...iders-another-day-another-obamacare-disaster/

FYI, the health care plan Obama talked about in the campaign bears little resemblance to the ACA.

I tell you this in case you are interested in being honest.
 
FYI, the health care plan Obama talked about in the campaign bears little resemblance to the ACA.

I tell you this in case you are interested in being honest.


No surprise that what was promised "bears little resemblance" to what was delivered.

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when does the report say our expenses will go down? or that all the uninsured will be covered?

those are the twin premises under which the legislation was drafted.
 
when does the report say our expenses will go down? or that all the uninsured will be covered?

those are the twin premises under which the legislation was drafted.

False.

ACA supporters did say that it would bend the costs curve downward, which has happened.

And supporters did not claim that the ACA would cover everyone.
 
when does the report say our expenses will go down? or that all the uninsured will be covered?

those are the twin premises under which the legislation was drafted.

Remember one of the selling points was there being 30 million uninsured; however the goal was set at 7 million signups.

I guess technically speaking that's not a lie?
 
Remember one of the selling points was there being 30 million uninsured; however the goal was set at 7 million signups.

I guess technically speaking that's not a lie?
For the first year. This will continue for years you know.
 
I know what product he delivered. The product he promised, the one that doesn't exist, is irrelevant. How that eluded you is vexing.

A Republican's view of honest discourse....

Republican: During the 2008 campaign Obama said his health plan would save us $2,500 each, and the ACA doesn't do that! He lied!

Sane person: But the ACA bears little resemblance to the law he talked about in 2008 when campaigning.

Republican: Of course! They are different! Obama nevers delivers what he promises!

Sane person: But your first post said the opposite.

Republican: This is all irrelevant! You're a dummy!

;-)
 
A Republican's view of honest discourse....

Republican: During the 2008 campaign Obama said his health plan would save us $2,500 each, and the ACA doesn't do that! He lied!

Sane person: But the ACA bears little resemblance to the law he talked about in 2008 when campaigning.

Republican: Of course! They are different! Obama nevers delivers what he promises!

Sane person: But your first post said the opposite.

Republican: This is all irrelevant! You're a dummy!

;-)

well, they know they're operating in the court of public opinion where things like rules of evidence are nonexistent largely because they need to make shit up
 
A Republican's view of honest discourse....

Republican: During the 2008 campaign Obama said his health plan would save us $2,500 each, and the ACA doesn't do that! He lied!

Sane person: But the ACA bears little resemblance to the law he talked about in 2008 when campaigning.

Republican: Of course! They are different! Obama nevers delivers what he promises!

Sane person: But your first post said the opposite.

Republican: This is all irrelevant! You're a dummy!

;-)



What part of this don't you get:


under Obamacare, two-thirds of Americans who work at small businesses will see their insurance premiums increase.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...iders-another-day-another-obamacare-disaster/

Now, is that good, or is that bad? Honest discourse, please.
 
FYI, the health care plan Obama talked about in the campaign bears little resemblance to the ACA.

I tell you this in case you are interested in being honest.


wow Bugsme..you are being honest...but late everyone knows already that Obama lied
 
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