One Keystone XL Fact Worth Repeating
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StanH
Council Member
Holy crap, you actually made a good point. But the thing is, it will most likely have gone through our refineries, supporting jobs here, and a nice profit realized here in the US.
Spamature
President
Correction:
A pipeline is going to be built, transporting millions of barrels of oil. It will either go to China to be controlled by the Chicoms, or come through the United States taking away some of our domestic supply and then go to China.
Why do Republicans insist the Communists get the oil ?
A pipeline is going to be built, transporting millions of barrels of oil. It will either go to China to be controlled by the Chicoms, or come through the United States taking away some of our domestic supply and then go to China.
Why do Republicans insist the Communists get the oil ?
PolitacynicNH
Mayor
Shhhhh! Don't tell Stan!
Typical PJ- ConJobber post devoid of facts and full of hype...
Pssst Stan- they already are starting the pipe-line.... Btw- the commies are going to being most of the oil from USA! LOL! LOL!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/27/us-keystone-idUSTRE81Q1II20120227
Typical PJ- ConJobber post devoid of facts and full of hype...
Pssst Stan- they already are starting the pipe-line.... Btw- the commies are going to being most of the oil from USA! LOL! LOL!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/27/us-keystone-idUSTRE81Q1II20120227
StanH
Council Member
I would ask why you're against increasing our exports and making a profit off the Chicoms. They're certainly selling us plenty of stuff.
The difference is, you want the oil to go straight to the Chicoms giving them permanent control over a huge oil supply right next door to us. I want the oil to come through the US, create jobs building and maintaining the pipeline, and refining the oil, then exporting it- all while falling under the jurisdiction of the US government.
Now as to whether or not that oil even goes to China after coming here, I'm not so sure I believe that. But for now, I'm willing to play along.
StanH
Council Member
Pssst... that's old news. And it means nothing until the pipeline from the source(s) in Canada to the gulf are approved.
Secondly, I think you may be missing a word in the sentence that includes the word USA. I can think of a few words you may have omitted. Please correct and I'll be happy to comment.
Secondly, I think you may be missing a word in the sentence that includes the word USA. I can think of a few words you may have omitted. Please correct and I'll be happy to comment.
PolitacynicNH
Mayor
I mean this with all respect...
But are you dense? You think TransCanada is building the leg from TEXAS USA north to Oklahoma USA enroute to CANADA for nothing?
LOL! Maybe you should read or watch something besides Faux News?
It's a done deal! The route is the only problem from Canada to Oklahoma... It is in the process of being finalized.:der:
But are you dense? You think TransCanada is building the leg from TEXAS USA north to Oklahoma USA enroute to CANADA for nothing?
LOL! Maybe you should read or watch something besides Faux News?
It's a done deal! The route is the only problem from Canada to Oklahoma... It is in the process of being finalized.:der:
StanH
Council Member
And I mean this with all respect. Are you a
ing moron? Sorry, just liked your line and thought I'd use some of your material on you. 
Is it a done deal? I don't know that, and neither do you. Barack Obama is pretty beholden to wacko environmentalists, and completion of the pipeline from Canada to the gulf can't happen without him. It looks to me like the Canadians would much rather build the pipeline here and are taking a gamble and playing hard ball.
Now if you'd like to show me Obama has approved this deal, I'll gladly concede it's a done deal. Can you do that?
Is it a done deal? I don't know that, and neither do you. Barack Obama is pretty beholden to wacko environmentalists, and completion of the pipeline from Canada to the gulf can't happen without him. It looks to me like the Canadians would much rather build the pipeline here and are taking a gamble and playing hard ball.
Now if you'd like to show me Obama has approved this deal, I'll gladly concede it's a done deal. Can you do that?
Z
zzigzzag
Guest
Relax, Stan. The pipeline will be built....and done properly....thanks to your President.
StanH
Council Member
Uh huh... just like the spill in the gulf was cleaned up properly.
Seriously though, I admit I'm surprised that two liberals have stepped in to concede the pipeline will be built. Solely out of curiosity, how do you think this situation will evolve to Obama approving the pipeline?
I know my usual schtick is pretty much flaming, chumming and spamming, but you guys truly have me curious.
Seriously though, I admit I'm surprised that two liberals have stepped in to concede the pipeline will be built. Solely out of curiosity, how do you think this situation will evolve to Obama approving the pipeline?
I know my usual schtick is pretty much flaming, chumming and spamming, but you guys truly have me curious.
PolitacynicNH
Mayor
Read this and then annoying people with silly factless post!
HARD BALL? The Canadian's know what Obama knows. Obama posponed the pipeline until the route is finalized. Simple election year politics and sincere need to get the northern route fixed!
Obama is working closely on this one and "welcomes" the changes and fixes....
"The White House welcomed the move, and said it would work to expedite permits for the southern portion of Keystone XL, which in its entirety is widely criticized by environmentalists for its route near underground water supplies in Nebraska and its potential to fuel more development of Canada's oil sands.
"Moving oil from the Midwest to the world-class, state-of-the-art refineries on the Gulf Coast will modernize our infrastructure, create jobs, and encourage American energy production," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said in a statement.
One benefit to TransCanada of building the 700,000 bpd Cushing-to-Texas portion is the elimination of a lengthy State Department approval, as the line would not cross the Canada-U.S. border. That is where the project stalled in January.
For the northern portion that still requires the agency's green light, TransCanada believes it can have a new route finalized with the state of Nebraska by October or November of this year, Alex Pourbaix, the head of the company's pipeline division, said in an interview.
Given environmental work done to date, the State Department could make its decision as early as the first part of next year, Pourbaix said. That would mean startup in 2015"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/27/us-keystone-idUSTRE81Q1II20120227
HARD BALL? The Canadian's know what Obama knows. Obama posponed the pipeline until the route is finalized. Simple election year politics and sincere need to get the northern route fixed!
Obama is working closely on this one and "welcomes" the changes and fixes....
"The White House welcomed the move, and said it would work to expedite permits for the southern portion of Keystone XL, which in its entirety is widely criticized by environmentalists for its route near underground water supplies in Nebraska and its potential to fuel more development of Canada's oil sands.
"Moving oil from the Midwest to the world-class, state-of-the-art refineries on the Gulf Coast will modernize our infrastructure, create jobs, and encourage American energy production," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said in a statement.
One benefit to TransCanada of building the 700,000 bpd Cushing-to-Texas portion is the elimination of a lengthy State Department approval, as the line would not cross the Canada-U.S. border. That is where the project stalled in January.
For the northern portion that still requires the agency's green light, TransCanada believes it can have a new route finalized with the state of Nebraska by October or November of this year, Alex Pourbaix, the head of the company's pipeline division, said in an interview.
Given environmental work done to date, the State Department could make its decision as early as the first part of next year, Pourbaix said. That would mean startup in 2015"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/27/us-keystone-idUSTRE81Q1II20120227
And I mean this with all respect. Are you a :censored::censored::censored::censored:ing moron? Sorry, just liked your line and thought I'd use some of your material on you.
Is it a done deal? I don't know that, and neither do you. Barack Obama is pretty beholden to wacko environmentalists, and completion of the pipeline from Canada to the gulf can't happen without him. It looks to me like the Canadians would much rather build the pipeline here and are taking a gamble and playing hard ball.
Now if you'd like to show me Obama has approved this deal, I'll gladly concede it's a done deal. Can you do that?
PolitacynicNH
Mayor
Read this and then STOP ANNOYING people.... think faster than I type...
And I mean this with all respect. Are you a :censored::censored::censored::censored:ing moron? Sorry, just liked your line and thought I'd use some of your material on you.
Is it a done deal? I don't know that, and neither do you. Barack Obama is pretty beholden to wacko environmentalists, and completion of the pipeline from Canada to the gulf can't happen without him. It looks to me like the Canadians would much rather build the pipeline here and are taking a gamble and playing hard ball.
Now if you'd like to show me Obama has approved this deal, I'll gladly concede it's a done deal. Can you do that?
Z
zzigzzag
Guest
"Uh huh... just like the spill in the gulf was cleaned up properly."
What's your complaint on that one? Not enough taxpayer money spent? BP caved to Obama too easily?
"Seriously though, I admit I'm surprised that two liberals have stepped in to concede the pipeline will be built. Solely out of curiosity, how do you think this situation will evolve to Obama approving the pipeline?"
You've already been provided links by PolitacynicNH. Since when does (a liberal) reading the news qualify as "conceding"? Conceding to facts is only a nuisance to Republicans....as you demonstrate once again.
What's your complaint on that one? Not enough taxpayer money spent? BP caved to Obama too easily?
"Seriously though, I admit I'm surprised that two liberals have stepped in to concede the pipeline will be built. Solely out of curiosity, how do you think this situation will evolve to Obama approving the pipeline?"
You've already been provided links by PolitacynicNH. Since when does (a liberal) reading the news qualify as "conceding"? Conceding to facts is only a nuisance to Republicans....as you demonstrate once again.
PolitacynicNH
Mayor
"concede"? Check what I have posted since day one. I predicted it last year. The difference is I don't suffer from being a pawn for political fodder.
Im not a Lib though- I'm an Independent. I don't like either party! The two party system is a relic of ancient history. A simple minded structure of 'us' and 'them'... It serves the purpose of keeping the status quo and not serving the best interest of the society it is sworn to represent.
I belong to the majority party that is most valued from a candidates perspective... I'm aligned with Obama out of a shared philosophy but not by idiology and deeply romantic notions. Even when he gets it wrong I still believe the overall direction and vision deserves my respect and support.
Having spent the last 10 years in management it is my belief that we need to let the man do what he was hired to do. History will judge us by its own standards but my bet is they will see the silliness of Congress as the impediment that slowed our progress. Compromise being the dirty Buzz word that held us up.
Im not a Lib though- I'm an Independent. I don't like either party! The two party system is a relic of ancient history. A simple minded structure of 'us' and 'them'... It serves the purpose of keeping the status quo and not serving the best interest of the society it is sworn to represent.
I belong to the majority party that is most valued from a candidates perspective... I'm aligned with Obama out of a shared philosophy but not by idiology and deeply romantic notions. Even when he gets it wrong I still believe the overall direction and vision deserves my respect and support.
Having spent the last 10 years in management it is my belief that we need to let the man do what he was hired to do. History will judge us by its own standards but my bet is they will see the silliness of Congress as the impediment that slowed our progress. Compromise being the dirty Buzz word that held us up.
Z
zzigzzag
Guest
"Having spent the last 10 years in management it is my belief that we need to let the man do what he was hired to do."
Bingo.
I'm registered and vote Democratic because it's the best way to confound Republicans. I agree with your assessment of our two party dilemma, but do my best to work within the reality of it. I don't vote for Ralph Nader. I did, however, sign the original petition to get Ross Perot on the ballot. That experience made me less likely to waste time on a third party movement any time soon.
If there were a more effective anti-Republican party than Democrats, they'd get my vote. Another Republican administration right now would finish us off as a country in which I want to live.
"Elections are about the future." Anyone else sick of hearing that? It's the mantra of those who don't want you to look back at the destruction they've caused in the past. Those who want you to ignore history so that they can repeat it. Those who built the out of control national debt for the purpose of having .5% of the population possessing more wealth than the other 99.5%....but continue to cry about the 1% being overburdened by taxes and blame the poorest citizens for our circumstance.
Democrats are disingenuous. Republicans are despicable.
Bingo.
I'm registered and vote Democratic because it's the best way to confound Republicans. I agree with your assessment of our two party dilemma, but do my best to work within the reality of it. I don't vote for Ralph Nader. I did, however, sign the original petition to get Ross Perot on the ballot. That experience made me less likely to waste time on a third party movement any time soon.
If there were a more effective anti-Republican party than Democrats, they'd get my vote. Another Republican administration right now would finish us off as a country in which I want to live.
"Elections are about the future." Anyone else sick of hearing that? It's the mantra of those who don't want you to look back at the destruction they've caused in the past. Those who want you to ignore history so that they can repeat it. Those who built the out of control national debt for the purpose of having .5% of the population possessing more wealth than the other 99.5%....but continue to cry about the 1% being overburdened by taxes and blame the poorest citizens for our circumstance.
Democrats are disingenuous. Republicans are despicable.
StanH
Council Member
Thank you for confirming the Canadians are playing hard ball and that Obama is in the slow process of caving. And thanks for actually posting the spin from Obama. That's always entertaining. Yes, I'm sure Barack Obama is enjoying being made the Canadians' boy
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