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Open carry, does it make us safer, maybe not!

IndependentinWis said:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/11/open-carry-mass-shooting-colorado-springs

What happened in Colorado is what many people who are against open carry said could happen. A person could carry his weapon right into the heart of a city and open fire and the police could not do anything to stop him until he actually started shooting. According to the article above, that is exactly what seems too have happened in Colorado.
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That indeed could happen. Perhaps did happen.

However, with that being agreed upon I must confess I can see no real relevance here.

What many people who are against open carry said could happen did happen but it had absolutely zero with the right to open carry. Were there no open carry permitted this same individual could carry the same gun in the same place, say a hip holster, with a jacket covering it as opposed to being tucked behind it, right?

The sad truth of the matter is that where no right to carry exists a person still could carry his weapon right into the heart of a city and open fire and the police could not do anything to stop him until he actually started shooting, is it not?

The article above might should have acknowledged this as well. Except, as we both know, acknowledging truth if it does nothing to promote one's personal social/political agenda has pretty much no chance of getting published in the US today, huh?
 
IF everyone had been armed, the fool probably wouldn't have opened fire, evidently the fool didn't see any other armed citizens and opportunity was his.

Criminal enters store to rob, customer with CC turned robbery into funeral for criminal.
Three criminals walk into jewelry store yesterday to rob, owner/employ killed one and two sought.

Of course libs want ALL citizens unarmed so they can be setting ducks for the slaughter.
 
IndependentinWis said:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/11/open-carry-mass-shooting-colorado-springs

What happened in Colorado is what many people who are against open carry said could happen. A person could carry his weapon right into the heart of a city and open fire and the police could not do anything to stop him until he actually started shooting. According to the article above, that is exactly what seems too have happened in Colorado.
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He could have just as easily done it with the weapon concealed.
 
Um, lemme see here. I'm attending a gun show surrounded by thousands of guns and ammo. Now I'm unarmed and walking through a democrat plantation in Chicago. Gee, I wonder where I'm the safest?
 
marvin martian said:
He could have just as easily done it with the weapon concealed.
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Actually if you take this incident and the one in Oregon together, we have learned one thing, more guns don't make use safer. In Oregon the shooting took place on a campus where carrying concealed weapons was allowed, and still the shooter was able to kill before the police were able to force him to shoot himself. Showing that it isn't just in areas where guns aren't allowed that shooters can come and kill. Now we have a situation in Colorado where the ability to open carry allowed a person to carry his gun right to where he started shooting and the police could not do anything. Seems like it might just be that the arguments put out by the NRA might actually make it easier for killers to find a location and do their worst, making us less safe rather than more safe.
 
IndependentinWis said:
Now we have a situation in Colorado where the ability to open carry allowed a person to carry his gun right to where he started shooting and the police could not do anything.
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Once again, whether the weapon was carried openly or concealed makes NO difference in this case. Your TP is in regards to open carry, but you've failed to make the case that it had anything to do with this incident. So, can you or not?
 
IndependentinWis said:
Actually if you take this incident and the one in Oregon together, we have learned one thing, more guns don't make use safer.
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Nonsense. Forming a judgment based on two incidents is silly.

IndependentinWis said:
In Oregon the shooting took place on a campus where carrying concealed weapons was allowed, and still the shooter was able to kill before the police were able to force him to shoot himself.
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More nonsense. Item #19 at the link below, from the college website, makes it clear weapons are not allowed:

http://www.umpqua.edu/resources-and-services/academic/student-code-of-conduct?showall=&start=4

Now we have a situation in Colorado where the ability to open carry allowed a person to carry his gun right to where he started shooting and the police could not do anything. Seems like it might just be that the arguments put out by the NRA might actually make it easier for killers to find a location and do their worst, making us less safe rather than more safe.
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More silliness, jumping to conclusions based on a single incident. A much broader approach is in order, such as comparing crime statistics. You are hysterical and need to calm down and think rationally.
 
Alias said:
Um, lemme see here. I'm attending a gun show surrounded by thousands of guns and ammo. Now I'm unarmed and walking through a democrat plantation in Chicago. Gee, I wonder where I'm the safest?
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I would pick Chicago as the crazies at gun shows make me want to kill.
 
4/15 said:
I would pick Chicago as the crazies at gun shows make me want to kill.
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Had a gun show a few months ago for three days. No one was shot. This past weekend in Chicago there were 26 people shot.
 
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