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Kaiser Family Foundation analysis of what we know so far (pdf) about premiums under Obamacare. It definitely looks as if there will be a mild “rate shock” — in the right direction. KFF:
While premiums will vary significantly across the country, they are generally lower than expected.

What’s going on here? Partly it’s a vindication of the idea that you can make health insurance broadly affordable if you ban discrimination based on preexiting conditions while inducing healthy individuals to enter the risk pool through a combination of penalties and subsidies. But there’s an additional factor, that even supporters of the Affordable Care Act mostly missed: the extent to which, for the first time, the Act is creating a truly functioning market in nongroup insurance.

Until now there has been sort of a market — but one that, as Kenneth Arrow pointed out half a century ago, is riddled with problems. It was very hard for individuals to figure out what they were buying — what would be covered, and would the policies let them down? Price and quality comparisons were near-impossible. Under these conditions the magic of the marketplace couldn’t work — there really wasn’t a proper market. And insurers competed with each other mainly by trying to avoid covering people who really needed insurance, and finding excuses to drop coverage when people got sick.

With the ACA, however, insurers operate under clear ground rules, with clearly defined grades of plan and discrimination banned. The result, suddenly, is that we have real market competition.

In an alternative universe, conservatives would be celebrating this good news as a vindication of their views. See, the Heritage Foundation — which actually developed the original version of this plan! — was right! You don’t need single-payer, just a properly set up market system. (For the record, I believe that single-payer would be better and cheaper, and it’s still a goal we should seek).

But in this universe, conservatives claim that creating a real market for health insurance, and making sure that everyone can afford it, is the moral equivalent of slavery.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/
 
Kaiser Family Foundation analysis of what we know so far (pdf) about premiums under Obamacare. It definitely looks as if there will be a mild “rate shock” — in the right direction. KFF:
While premiums will vary significantly across the country, they are generally lower than expected.

What’s going on here? Partly it’s a vindication of the idea that you can make health insurance broadly affordable if you ban discrimination based on preexiting conditions while inducing healthy individuals to enter the risk pool through a combination of penalties and subsidies. But there’s an additional factor, that even supporters of the Affordable Care Act mostly missed: the extent to which, for the first time, the Act is creating a truly functioning market in nongroup insurance.

Until now there has been sort of a market — but one that, as Kenneth Arrow pointed out half a century ago, is riddled with problems. It was very hard for individuals to figure out what they were buying — what would be covered, and would the policies let them down? Price and quality comparisons were near-impossible. Under these conditions the magic of the marketplace couldn’t work — there really wasn’t a proper market. And insurers competed with each other mainly by trying to avoid covering people who really needed insurance, and finding excuses to drop coverage when people got sick.

With the ACA, however, insurers operate under clear ground rules, with clearly defined grades of plan and discrimination banned. The result, suddenly, is that we have real market competition.

In an alternative universe, conservatives would be celebrating this good news as a vindication of their views. See, the Heritage Foundation — which actually developed the original version of this plan! — was right! You don’t need single-payer, just a properly set up market system. (For the record, I believe that single-payer would be better and cheaper, and it’s still a goal we should seek).

But in this universe, conservatives claim that creating a real market for health insurance, and making sure that everyone can afford it, is the moral equivalent of slavery.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/
This has to be so frustrating for the right. They could be celebrating in taking the credit, but now they will have to find Obama at fault. They are praying that the rates s will go up just so they can be right
 
Kaiser Family Foundation analysis of what we know so far (pdf) about premiums under Obamacare. It definitely looks as if there will be a mild “rate shock” — in the right direction. KFF:
While premiums will vary significantly across the country, they are generally lower than expected.

What’s going on here? Partly it’s a vindication of the idea that you can make health insurance broadly affordable if you ban discrimination based on preexiting conditions while inducing healthy individuals to enter the risk pool through a combination of penalties and subsidies. But there’s an additional factor, that even supporters of the Affordable Care Act mostly missed: the extent to which, for the first time, the Act is creating a truly functioning market in nongroup insurance.

Until now there has been sort of a market — but one that, as Kenneth Arrow pointed out half a century ago, is riddled with problems. It was very hard for individuals to figure out what they were buying — what would be covered, and would the policies let them down? Price and quality comparisons were near-impossible. Under these conditions the magic of the marketplace couldn’t work — there really wasn’t a proper market. And insurers competed with each other mainly by trying to avoid covering people who really needed insurance, and finding excuses to drop coverage when people got sick.

With the ACA, however, insurers operate under clear ground rules, with clearly defined grades of plan and discrimination banned. The result, suddenly, is that we have real market competition.

In an alternative universe, conservatives would be celebrating this good news as a vindication of their views. See, the Heritage Foundation — which actually developed the original version of this plan! — was right! You don’t need single-payer, just a properly set up market system. (For the record, I believe that single-payer would be better and cheaper, and it’s still a goal we should seek).

But in this universe, conservatives claim that creating a real market for health insurance, and making sure that everyone can afford it, is the moral equivalent of slavery.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/


the simple fact of the matter is yuri, like with the stimulus that preceded it, the cons aren't worried about the failure of the ACA, but rather it's success. Success will make it widely percieved that the ideology they adhere to is a failure, and as they've shown since 2010 since gaining the house (as well as long before that) they have no solutions, just "no, no, no".

and the more noise they make on an issue like this usually corresponds to exactly how much fear of success they have
 
the simple fact of the matter is yuri, like with the stimulus that preceded it, the cons aren't worried about the failure of the ACA, but rather it's success. Success will make it widely percieved that the ideology they adhere to is a failure, and as they've shown since 2010 since gaining the house (as well as long before that) they have no solutions, just "no, no, no".

and the more noise they make on an issue like this usually corresponds to exactly how much fear of success they have

Yup, this one hints me at a piece George Will penned, once it became obvious that "Obama Motors" was going to be a remarkable success. Will suggested (I paraphrase) that this represented a SERIOUS problem for traditional conservatives, in that it ran so contrary to their fundamental memes.
 
I don't see how that conclusion can be avoided fair, and on a lot of econ issues - like the minimum wage one for example.

I think that the rightwingers are realy shooting themselves in the 2014 election foot in the various states http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/28/200676/medicaid-coverage-gap-looming.html#.UiDR803n_IV where they're obstructing implementation.

I'm guessing there's gonna be a backlash http://thinkprogress.org/health/201...stration-hooking-republican-states-obamacare/ in those red states that don't play ball, once the electorate discovers what they lost and others gained.

have a good one dude
 
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