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Panic !!!

Yuri Zhivago

Yuri Zhivago

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They are terrified:http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...omney-loses-michigan-we-need-a-new-candidate/

A prominent Republican senator just told me that if Romney can’t win in Michigan, the Republican Party needs to go back to the drawing board and convince somebody new to get into the race.

“If Romney cannot win Michigan, we need a new candidate,” said the senator, who has not endorsed anyone and requested anonymity.

The senator believes Romney will ultimately win in Michigan but says he will publicly call for the party to find a new candidate if he does not.

“We’d get killed,” the senator said if Romney manages to win the nomination after he failed to win the state in which he grew up.

They really have no one to blame but themselves. They’ve spent so much time lying about everything and creating an echo chamber to reinforce and transmit those lies within the so-called “conservative” movement that quite simply, anyone who appeals to the wingnut base is someone so twisted as to be UTTERLY REPUGNANT to the rest of the nation.

via J.Cole
 
How in the hell could the GOP not have seen this coming, a year ago? I'd not be surprised to see the RNC start shifting it's support to Santorum. The problem for the RNC is that Mitt "The Greaseball", is THEM! The Greaseball's failures are THEIR failures.

At least when Santorum gets his ass kicked, the RNC can politic that he and his whackjobbian "social" bullshit, isn't really what they're all about.
 
fairsheet said:
How in the hell could the GOP not have seen this coming, a year ago? I'd not be surprised to see the RNC start shifting it's support to Santorum. The problem for the RNC is that Mitt "The Greaseball", is THEM! The Greaseball's failures are THEIR failures.

At least when Santorum gets his ass kicked, the RNC can politic that he and his whackjobbian "social" bullshit, isn't really what they're all about.
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they build their assholery for 2012 on teahadism, they play for the ignorants and they kiss the earth in front of the ignorant base.
Turns out Americans do not like teahadists that much after all
 
I want to see Santorum (real meaning: Saints place) win for just that reason. At least the guy is a real conservative, has real family values, has real roots in the middle class. I don't care which party wins the presidency, but the cons need to shed the neo cons and return to being conservative.
 
Maybe it would be a better bet to just pay lip service to the presidential campaign and hold back the real money and support for Congressional candidates.

Call this one a loss to Obama and pull enough red eats to keep him ineffective.

That would be a far better plan.
 
It's early. I remember when McCain was driving around the countryside in his bus and no one even wanted an interview.

If the RNC gets behind Santorum and makes an effort... this guy has 16 years in Congress and I seem to remember he was the minority whip in the Senate? He went down with GWBush, loyal to the party line.

Like I said in my top post that garnered zero replies, this is his time to make his case. I wouldn't count him out just for being Catholic.
 
Days said:
I want to see Santorum (real meaning: Saints place) win for just that reason. At least the guy is a real conservative, has real family values, has real roots in the middle class. I don't care which party wins the presidency, but the cons need to shed the neo cons and return to being conservative.
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Although I do care which party wins the presidency - the most powerful position in the world - I agree that Rick Santorum is a bona fide conservative although hardly 'hard core', as the left wants voters to believe. The Democrats will be screaming at the top of their lungs that Santorum is - all together now - EXTREME!!! Wait for it.

Most conservative Republicans are sick of 'moderate' neo-cons running against liberals and losing because the independents are not given a real choice. They get a liberal Democrat telling them he'll tax the rich and give them stuff and a 'moderate' Republican telling them he'll tax the rich a bit less but still give them stuff - only not as much. That is a recipe for failure, as the McCain candidacy proved in 2008.

The reality is twice as many Americans label themselves 'conservative' as do 'liberal'. Most Americans live what could reasonably be called conservative lives. Obama is being seen as, at best, a failure and his increasingly strident supporters are not winning over many undecided voters. The election is 9 months away and a whole lot could happen to change everything between now and November 6th, 2012 but I believe that, despite the usual liberal echo chamber on PJ and elsewhere, telling each other how stupid Republicans are and how Santorum is a slam-dunk loser to the leftist messiah, Barack Hussein Obama, the presidential election will give voters a real choice. I'm confident that they see Obama as an impediment to real economic recovery, not a solution and will reject him for the GOP nominee, who, I believe, will be Rick Santorum. It'll be fun watching liberals going apoplectic on the morning of November 7, 2012. I can't wait.
 
Days said:
It's early. I remember when McCain was driving around the countryside in his bus and no one even wanted an interview.

If the RNC gets behind Santorum and makes an effort... this guy has 16 years in Congress and I seem to remember he was the minority whip in the Senate? He went down with GWBush, loyal to the party line.

Like I said in my top post that garnered zero replies, this is his time to make his case. I wouldn't count him out just for being Catholic.
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Days, you think Rick can win--- http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/santorum-satan-systematically-destroying-america --when the audiotape of him calling out Protestants becomes widely known?
[O]nce the colleges fell and those who were being educated in our institutions, the next was the church. Now you’d say, ‘wait, the Catholic Church’? No. We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.
 
Days said:
It's early. I remember when McCain was driving around the countryside in his bus and no one even wanted an interview.

If the RNC gets behind Santorum and makes an effort... this guy has 16 years in Congress and I seem to remember he was the minority whip in the Senate? He went down with GWBush, loyal to the party line.

Like I said in my top post that garnered zero replies, this is his time to make his case. I wouldn't count him out just for being Catholic.
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McCain lost the 2008 race, handily. I'm not sure you do Santorum any favors by linking him to McCain.
 
Well, yeah, because he chose not-ready-for-primetime Palin as a running mate.

I don't think any poll of a head-to-head against Obama means anything at this point. After someone has the nomination and has a running mate, then it gets real.
 
Jim Scott said:
The reality is twice as many Americans label themselves 'conservative' as do 'liberal'.
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The vast majority of Americans don't particularly care for either label and would prefer that you ideological nut-jobs would just shut up and go away and let the normal folks handle the nation's business.
 
that's preaching in the church. I didn't think "God damn America" was part of Obama's resume either.

At this point in time, Santorum hasn't made any killer gaffes. He can still win the presidency, but that isn't saying I think he will win it.
 
NightSwimmer said:
The vast majority of Americans don't particularly care for either label and would prefer that you ideological nut-jobs would just shut up and go away and let the normal folks handle the nation's business.
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I'm conservative and therefore, Obama's my logical choice. Santorum, Bachmann, and Paul aren't conservative. They're radical. Mitt and Herb aren't conservatives. They're hucksters. And Perry?....well, he's just a buffoon.
 
My grand dad on my mom's side was also a coal miner in Pennsylvania. So I like the guy. My family was also Catholic, so I like the guy. But I'm not blind to the political mistakes he makes... luckily for him, most Americans hate politics so they aren't noticing. But I agree with you, Rick is not extreme, and he has 16 years of Congressional record... so I don't think the label will stick.

I don't think you have a real pulse on American mainstream. I don't think Obama is viewed as a failure; just the opposite. We've got two crisis that Obama has not solved: the budget and housing. I'm still waiting to hear what Rick has to say to those. If he really expects to beat Obama, it better be good.
 
Days said:
It's early. I remember when McCain was driving around the countryside in his bus and no one even wanted an interview.

If the RNC gets behind Santorum and makes an effort... this guy has 16 years in Congress and I seem to remember he was the minority whip in the Senate? He went down with GWBush, loyal to the party line.

Like I said in my top post that garnered zero replies, this is his time to make his case. I wouldn't count him out just for being Catholic.
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Days, Santorum could not even keep his Senate seat. He lost in a landslide to Carey. He is a loonie and would take us back to the 1800's Is that what you want?

Only an idiot of a woman would vote for him.
 
I'm making the point that he is still in the running. That doesn't mean I think he is going to win, I'm just saying he could win.

No, I haven't joined his campaign.

What the GOP hasn't accomplished yet... and there's still time... is put forward a convincing argument for change. Obama has done a commendable job of holding the nation together. Poking fiddle sticks at him isn't going to dethrone him. Tell me what you are going to do that would be better by far for the nation? Not just better by far according to your ideals.
 
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