Poor Bob

[Zam-Zam]

I guess the "Prostitution is legal there" line isn't working all that great. Sex with "underage prostitutes" is just another way of saying pedophilia:



New Jersey Sen. Robert Menendez’s approval rating dropped 15 percentage points in less than a month, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday.

Menendez’s approval rating stands at 36 percent, with 41 percent of New Jersey voters disapproving. In late January, his approval rating was 51 percent, with 33 percent disapproving.

The Democrat has been battered by revelations about his ties to Saloman Melgen, a Florida doctor and campaign donor. The senator reimbursed Melgen more than $50,000 for two flights on his private jet, and also talked to officials from the State and Commerce departments and at the Center for Medicare & Medicaid Services on Melgen’s behalf.

The FBI is also investigating Menendez for allegedly visiting underage prostitutes while staying with Melgen in Florida, but the bureau has found little evidence so far, according to The Washington Post.

Only 28 percent of New Jerseyeans believe Menendez is honest and trustworthy, and 48 percent said the scandal makes them think less of the senator. Only 23 percent believe Menendez’s explanation that the allegations are politically motivated.


http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/poll-robert-menendez-approval-plummets-87895.html?hp=r3



On the bright side, guys like Larry Craig and Anthony Weiner suddenly appear slightly less creepy. Very slightly.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

The FBI has found little or no evidence to substantiate these explosive allegations against Senator Menendez.

Here's my prediction: Even if the FBI completely exonerates Senator Menendez, folks like you will be repeating these claims for DECADES to come, regardless of the complete lack of evidence.

It's simply what you do.

 

[Zam-Zam]

The FBI has found little or no evidence to substantiate these explosive allegations against Senator Menendez.

Here's my prediction: Even if the FBI completely exonerates Senator Menendez, folks like you will be repeating these claims for DECADES to come, regardless of the complete lack of evidence.

It's simply what you do.

If he's exonerated, I'll gladly acknowledge it. If he's guilty, I'll acknowledge that too. Sex with kids is wrong, whether here or abroad, and its a huge deal. Agreed?



Folks like me? That's what's known as a generalization, and is right on the road to prejudice. You might want to consider a U-turn......

 

[Mytzlplk]

indeed, all of their lies retain some vestige of truth to them to the rightwingner that stupidly helped propagate them.

That's how they keep the hate/disgust fires burning, which in turn allows them to ignore and/or deny that all the well earned and deserved http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...issues-gop-is-badly-out-of-step-with-america/ disgust/hate should be directed inward. It's just one part of a very large coping mechanism they all were born with or built over the years.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

we have more evidence that Rush Limbaugh messed around with under-age male prostitutes while on his vacation to the Dominican Republic than the lies you're pushing about Menendez. why are you such a liar?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1753947.html

 

[Zam-Zam]

indeed, all of their lies retain some vestige of truth to them to the rightwingner that stupidly helped propagate them.

That's how they keep the hate/disgust fires burning, which in turn allows them to ignore and/or deny that all the well earned and deserved http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...issues-gop-is-badly-out-of-step-with-america/ disgust/hate should be directed inward. It's just one part of a very large coping mechanism they all were born with or built over the years.

Here's your problem:


Only 28 percent of New Jerseyeans believe Menendez is honest and trustworthy



Obviously, the folks of New Jersey believe something's amiss.......

 

[Craig]

If he's exonerated, I'll gladly acknowledge it. If he's guilty, I'll acknowledge that too. Sex with kids is wrong, whether here or abroad, and its a huge deal. Agreed?



Folks like me? That's what's known as a generalization, and is right on the road to prejudice. You might want to consider a U-turn......

Sex with "kids" is definitely bad. Now, we have to define the word "kids".

Age differences are the issue, as 16 years is the age of consent in many places around the world. There is a massive difference between prepubescent and post pubescent proclivities. In other news of this sort, right wing mouthpiece Ted Nugent has made a career of singing about liaisons with even younger girls than 16, but the noise from the right is regarding Menendez, even though there is no actual evidence at this time...and one of the girls has changed her story.

 

[Zam-Zam]

we have more evidence that Rush Limbaugh messed around with under-age male prostitutes while on his vacation to the Dominican Republic than the lies you're pushing about Menendez. why are you such a liar?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1753947.html

Where did I lie?

 

[Zam-Zam]

Sex with "kids" is definitely bad. Now, we have to define the word "kids".

Age differences are the issue, as 16 years is the age of consent in many places around the world. There is a massive difference between prepubescent and post pubescent proclivities. In other news of this sort, right wing mouthpiece Ted Nugent has made a career of singing about liaisons with even younger girls than 16, but the noise from the right is regarding Menendez, even though there is no actual evidence at this time...and one of the girls has changed her story.

"Underage prostitutes" . To me, that's kids. Someone looking to defend a person who had sex with may split hairs and argue the point, but I doubt few else would.

 

[Craig]

"Underage prostitutes" . To me, that's kids. Someone looking to defend a person who had sex with may split hairs and argue the point, but I doubt few else would.

I have familiarity with the legal system, so hair splitting is extremely important.

Pedophilia is sex with prepubescent children. The term "underage prostitutes" is not code for pedophilia. To make such a statement is not only wrong, but is unnecessarily inflammatory. The age of consent varies around the world...and also in the US, but is more typically 16.

The mother in question in the stripper thread had her first at 17...

 

[as seen on tv]

there was extensive coverage of bob in the new york times today - most of it detailing his relationship with this mysterious florida eye doctor who is attempting to arrange a monoply on port services in the dominican republic, and has donated hundreds of thousands to menendez. the usual questions present themselves -

- why is a resident of florida hooked up with menendez, a new jersey senator?
- when you give that much money, what did you get in return?
- this "doctor" has private aircraft and appears to spend 99% of his time on his import/export business. is he leveraging his "doctor" title simply to get some sort of free pass from normal scrutiny?

the NYT article had zero to say about the FBI investigation into mendendez's dalliances with underaged dominican prostitutes. of course there are "progressives" on this board who also believe menendez should get a free pass on this, because the crimes were first mentioned by a republican.

that's a great principle in fact - if you commit a crime, and the opposing party discovers it - it becomes legal, because reporting that crime is presumed to be politically motivated, rather than an attempt to stop crime.

under this guideline, all democratic attorney general prosecutions of republican criminals would grind to an immediate halt.

i'm sure that's not what the idiots on this board actually want. but the inability to see one step ahead IS a sign of idiocracy, of course.

 

[Mytzlplk]

how is that a "problem" in the context of what I posted.

Just because many may have used what is likely a defamation to erode his standing before the exculpatory evidence entered the public domain, doesn't alter the fact that many/most/for all practical purposes "all" rightwingers, will retain it as a "truth" should he be vindicated. That could well be in its entirety, a measure of the effectiveness of the rightwingnut defamation machine.

Clinging to debunked lies is what rightwingers do, and they only take a break from them as new ones arise, whereupon they abandon the old ones without a care or concern that they have a long, sordid, and shameless history of being gulible "morans". That's bad enough in and of itself, but when they also think and act like a record like that makes them the integrity and intellectual peers of those "not like them", well, we have the makings of a prime facia/open and shut case for things that go a tad beyond them being just dishonest and gullible "morans".

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Where did I lie?

"the bureau has found little evidence so far, according to The Washington Post."

to suggest otherwise is a lie.

 

[marvin martian]

It's hilarious that the liberals are trying to split hairs about the different kinds of child rape Menendez may have engaged in, while excoriating an aged musician who is not an elected official being paid to represent his constituents while he's instead out of the country (allegedly) [Unwelcome language removed] child sex slaves bought with money from his donors...

 

[Bo-4]

It's hilarious that the liberals are trying to split hairs about the different kinds of child rape Menendez may have engaged in, while excoriating an aged musician who is not an elected official being paid to represent his constituents while he's instead out of the country (allegedly) [Unwelcome language removed] child sex slaves bought with money from his donors...

And still not a shred of evidence huh Jake? Therefore, this case doesn't even deserve the alleged label.

And if it does, then i have strong suspicions that you accompanied Bob on his foreign adventures!

 

[marvin martian]

And still not a shred of evidence huh Jake? Therefore, this case doesn't even deserve the alleged label.

And if it does, then i have strong suspicions that you accompanied Bob on his foreign adventures!

Keep working that angle, Billy, and keep supporting your pet child rapist...

 

[NightSwimmer]

What is the legal age for prostitution anyway?

 

[Bo-4]

What is the legal age for prostitution anyway?

At the Moonlite Bunny Ranch? 18

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

If he's exonerated, I'll gladly acknowledge it. If he's guilty, I'll acknowledge that too. Sex with kids is wrong, whether here or abroad, and its a huge deal. Agreed?



Folks like me? That's what's known as a generalization, and is right on the road to prejudice. You might want to consider a U-turn......

Well, gee, it sounded very much like you have already made up your mind as to the 'guilt' of Senator Menendez:

Zam-Zam: I guess the "Prostitution is legal there" line isn't working all that great. Sex with "underage prostitutes" is just another way of saying pedophilia:

LeRoy: You might want to think more carefully about what you are writing before you hit that submit button.

 

[jammer]

Well so far no law enforcement agency has been able to verify the claims and no criminal charges have been filed. Even if true it's better than this sleazeball, banging away at his colleague's daughter and getting her pregnant.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/vide...s-fathered-child-colleagues-daughter-18555665