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Poor Fox

ya-ta-hey said:
Mr. Zoar,

I guess their only consolation is that they are still trouncing the other cable news networks in that demographic and in each and every other demographic for the 12th year in a row.
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As a practical news bidness matter, there are two distinct markets - the "Fox Market" and the "Non-Fox Market". Per this practical distinction, Fox is being trounced in every single demographic.
 
fairsheet said:
As a practical news bidness matter, there are two distinct markets - the "Fox Market" and the "Non-Fox Market". Per this practical distinction, Fox is being trounced in every single demographic.
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Mr. Fair,

And in other practical business matters, there are two distinct markets-The Ford Motor Company Market and the Frozen popcicle market, and per this practical distinction, the Frozen popcicle market is being trounce in every single demographic, except the 4 to 15 one.

See, I can come up with meaningless irrelevancies as well.
 
fairsheet said:
As a practical news bidness matter, there are two distinct markets - the "Fox Market" and the "Non-Fox Market". Per this practical distinction, Fox is being trounced in every single demographic.
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No, as a practical news matter, there is the audience, and the percentage of the audience that the outlet can attract. Fox, like it or not and I don't particularly, attracts a larger share of the market than other news outlets. Your statement reminds me of a quote from Stan Freberg when I saw him speak many years ago. He had been offered Jack Benny's time slot on NBC when Benny elected to leave television (Freberg had inherited Benny's slot on radio when Benny went into television). Freberg made comedy records, and they had mock, very funny, advertisments on them. An NBC executive said he wouldn't be able to do comedy ads on television -- audiences wouldn't accept them. "But, I sold six million records with them." "He looked at me with great seriousness and set, "those were regular buyers, they were record buyers." So I got in my brand new 1957 Trojan Horse and started an advertising company."

There are not "Fox News Audience" and "other news audience." There's an audience. Fox is an example of niche marketing -- that audience wasn't being served by the major news outlets -- and Fox took advantage of that. Where you should, if you're a liberal, be concerned is at how large the niche turned out to be.
 
ya-ta-hey said:
Mr. Fair,

And in other practical business matters, there are two distinct markets-The Ford Motor Company Market and the Frozen popcicle market, and per this practical distinction, the Frozen popcicle market is being trounce in every single demographic, except the 4 to 15 one.

See, I can come up with meaningless irrelevancies as well.
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Yes...your irellevancy is meaningless. In order for it to've made any sense, you would've needed to make reference to only the auto market or only the popsicle market.
 
trapdoor said:
No, as a practical news matter, there is the audience, and the percentage of the audience that the outlet can attract. Fox, like it or not and I don't particularly, attracts a larger share of the market than other news outlets. Your statement reminds me of a quote from Stan Freberg when I saw him speak many years ago. He had been offered Jack Benny's time slot on NBC when Benny elected to leave television (Freberg had inherited Benny's slot on radio when Benny went into television). Freberg made comedy records, and they had mock, very funny, advertisments on them. An NBC executive said he wouldn't be able to do comedy ads on television -- audiences wouldn't accept them. "But, I sold six million records with them." "He looked at me with great seriousness and set, "those were regular buyers, they were record buyers." So I got in my brand new 1957 Trojan Horse and started an advertising company."

There are not "Fox News Audience" and "other news audience." There's an audience. Fox is an example of niche marketing -- that audience wasn't being served by the major news outlets -- and Fox took advantage of that. Where you should, if you're a liberal, be concerned is at how large the niche turned out to be.
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Your rambling treatise is useless to us in that Fox's market niche is unique. None of the others is. "Ace Vinyl" is the only seller of records. Twenty other entities split up the CD bidness. CD's outsell records 10-1. Ace sells more records than any of the CD purveyors does individually.
 
I'm always amused by the contortions the left goes through trying to convince themselves that Fox is irrelevant, or that it doesn't occupy a substantial demographic, or that it's ratings don't dwarf those of it's competitors. I guess the whole thing is very scary for them, so they have to try to minimize it as much as possible.

Maybe I should start watching to help boost those ratings a bit more?
 
fairsheet said:
Yes...your irellevancy is meaningless. In order for it to've made any sense, you would've needed to make reference to only the auto market or only the popsicle market.
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Mr. Fair,

Just like the comparison of cable news to other types of cable information and entertainment is meaningless.

I glad you can see how irrelevent your response was.
 
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1. No liberal ever said the Fox market wS not substantial
2. Comparing one cable news network that is right wing propaganda and misinformation and lies with all the other cable news networks which are not as full of right wing propaganda IS comparing apples with apples. I have no idea what bullshit you are trying to serve where you do not compare Fox against all other cable news networks. You certainly cannot compare Fox to any one cable outlet since people who watch Fox are far RightWingers and stupid. The other news outlets share the audience that is not that.
3. The replies on this thread show why it is impossible to discuss any topic with Righties. The thread started out as Fox losing the coveting demo, badly, and Righties hijack the thread to be about comparing cars to popsicles or other absurd and trite comparisons that obfuscate and waste everyone's time.
4. Fox IS losing the under 55 audience in droves. Fox is an old, white, right wing, mostly unconscious, dumb and very gullible person's news source.
5. Righties who do not watch Fox get a star on their forehead today for at least NOT being THAT stupid to watch that Faux "News" source filled with propaganda and lies.
 
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trapdoor said:
No, as a practical news matter, there is the audience, and the percentage of the audience that the outlet can attract. Fox, like it or not and I don't particularly, attracts a larger share of the market than other news outlets. Your statement reminds me of a quote from Stan Freberg when I saw him speak many years ago. He had been offered Jack Benny's time slot on NBC when Benny elected to leave television (Freberg had inherited Benny's slot on radio when Benny went into television). Freberg made comedy records, and they had mock, very funny, advertisments on them. An NBC executive said he wouldn't be able to do comedy ads on television -- audiences wouldn't accept them. "But, I sold six million records with them." "He looked at me with great seriousness and set, "those were regular buyers, they were record buyers." So I got in my brand new 1957 Trojan Horse and started an advertising company."

There are not "Fox News Audience" and "other news audience." There's an audience. Fox is an example of niche marketing -- that audience wasn't being served by the major news outlets -- and Fox took advantage of that. Where you should, if you're a liberal, be concerned is at how large the niche turned out to be.
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The Fox News audience is about 1% of the nation.
 
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:rolleyes:
 
trapdoor said:
"The nation" represents all possible viewers of cable news. The cable news viewership is a sampling of that national pool. Fox News samples at far higher than 1 percent.
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There are over 300 million people and FoxNews draws 3 million. 1%.
 
If the Right doesn't believe the demographics....watch the advertising.

If you see a lot of ads for Viagra, Cialis, bladder control medicine, supplemental Medicare insurance, "I've fallen and I can't get up", ads with Pat Boone or Alan Thicke, etc......

it's a pretty good guess that Fox isn't expecting to sell them to a 30 year old guy or gal.
 
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