President Trump enforcing a law passed by Democrats

[JackDallas]

President Trump is keeping a promise that top Democrats made Back in 2006, before Obama.
The Secure Fence Act.
Obama refused to enforce the law. We had to elect a real President to do what the POS would not do.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/25/top-democrats-voted-for-the-border-wall-trump-is-building/

 

[Dawg]

that's different

 

[Jen]

President Trump is keeping a promise that top Democrats made Back in 2006, before Obama.
The Secure Fence Act.
Obama refused to enforce the law. We had to elect a real President to do what the POS would not do.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/25/top-democrats-voted-for-the-border-wall-trump-is-building/

Suddenly the Democrats don't like that law.
This is hilarious...........watching the Democrats go into their silly contortions over Trump.

 

[JackDallas]

Suddenly the Democrats don't like that law.
This is hilarious...........watching the Democrats go into their silly contortions over Trump.

It is hilarious, they voted overwhelmingly to pass the law, Obama himself voted for it. Obama refused to enforce it, and no Democrat ever challenged him on it (no Republican either, so they were all ass-holes).
Now, Trump doesn't have to fight with congress to get them to write border wall legislation. He'll just enforce existing law, which is the president's job, in the first place.

 

[Jen]

It is hilarious, they voted overwhelmingly to pass the law, Obama himself voted for it. Obama refused to enforce it, and no Democrat ever challenged him on it (no Republican either, so they were all ass-holes).
Now, Trump doesn't have to fight with congress to get them to write border wall legislation. He'll just enforce existing law, which is the president's job, in the first place.

Funny how they love things when they are in charge and hate those very same things when someone else is in charge. It shows unquestionably that they are just playing some sort of game with our lives.

 

[Zam-Zam]

President Trump is keeping a promise that top Democrats made Back in 2006, before Obama.
The Secure Fence Act.
Obama refused to enforce the law. We had to elect a real President to do what the POS would not do.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/25/top-democrats-voted-for-the-border-wall-trump-is-building/

A few quick facts, for those who may not be familiar with The Secure Fence Act of 2006:

The bill was introduced on Sep. 13, 2006 by Peter T. King (R-NY). In the House of Representatives, the Fence Act passed 283 -138 on September 14, 2006. On September 29, 2006 – the Fence Act passed in the Senate 80 -19.

By April 2009 Homeland Security had erected about 613 miles (985 km) of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers along the southwest border from California to Texas.[5]

The Washington Office on Latin America, claims on its Border Fact Check site that the extremely high cost of complying with the Secure Fence Act's mandate-estimated at US$4.1 billion, or more than the Border Patrol’s entire annual budget of US$3.55 billion- was the main reason that it was not fulfilled.[8] In short, Congress failed to continue to fund the project past the initial $1.2 billion procured, in order to finish building the fence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006


At first blush, 4.1 billion does seem like a lot of money. I would point out, however, that Congress routinely tosses around billion dollar figures for all sorts of things (Over half-a-billion was spent to fund Solyndra alone, for example, with nothing gained to show for it). I think 4.1 billion sounds like a lot of money to those who prefer the wall not be built, less so to those who want it erected.

What happens next remains to be seen.

 

[JackDallas]

A few quick facts, for those who may not be familiar with The Secure Fence Act of 2006:

The bill was introduced on Sep. 13, 2006 by Peter T. King (R-NY). In the House of Representatives, the Fence Act passed 283 -138 on September 14, 2006. On September 29, 2006 – the Fence Act passed in the Senate 80 -19.

By April 2009 Homeland Security had erected about 613 miles (985 km) of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers along the southwest border from California to Texas.[5]

The Washington Office on Latin America, claims on its Border Fact Check site that the extremely high cost of complying with the Secure Fence Act's mandate-estimated at US$4.1 billion, or more than the Border Patrol’s entire annual budget of US$3.55 billion- was the main reason that it was not fulfilled.[8] In short, Congress failed to continue to fund the project past the initial $1.2 billion procured, in order to finish building the fence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006


At first blush, 4.1 billion does seem like a lot of money. I would point out, however, that Congress routinely tosses around billion dollar figures for all sorts of things (Over half-a-billion was spent to fund Solyndra alone, for example, with nothing gained to show for it). I think 4.1 billion sounds like a lot of money to those who prefer the wall not be built, less so to those who want it erected.

What happens next remains to be seen.

I think the wall will be built and the southern border will become secure, under this president. That is my belief and hope. If we save all the money that taxpayers spend on welfare, medical, and education for illegal aliens, that $4.1 billion will look like pocket change.

 

[Craig]

President Trump is keeping a promise that top Democrats made Back in 2006, before Obama.
The Secure Fence Act.
Obama refused to enforce the law. We had to elect a real President to do what the POS would not do.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/25/top-democrats-voted-for-the-border-wall-trump-is-building/

The reality is...219 GOPers voted for the bill. That's 50% +1 and is enough to pass a bill with no additional input. In addition, as the bill passed in 2006...why is it you blame Obama for the failure to build? The GOP was in charge in 2006.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/h446

54 GOP Senators voted aye. No...the Dems did not pass this bill. Yes...a few voted for it, but as we see, had zero Dems voted, the bill would have passed.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

 

[Zam-Zam]

The reality is...219 GOPers voted for the bill. That's 50% +1 and is enough to pass a bill with no additional input. In addition, as the bill passed in 2006...why is it you blame Obama for the failure to build? The GOP was in charge in 2006.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/h446

54 GOP Senators voted aye. No...the Dems did not pass this bill. Yes...a few voted for it, but as we see, had zero Dems voted, the bill would have passed.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

It is noteworthy that, political rhetoric aside, both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton voted in favor of the Secure Fence Act of 2006. Perhaps actions speak louder than words.....?

 

[Craig]

It is noteworthy that, political rhetoric aside, both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton voted in favor of the Secure Fence Act of 2006. Perhaps actions speak louder than words.....?

Yes, they did.

That said, their votes were unnecessary to the passage of the bill. THAT was my point. The bill was not "passed by Dems"...as the figures show.

 

[Zam-Zam]

Yes, they did.

That said, their votes were unnecessary to the passage of the bill. THAT was my point. The bill was not "passed by Dems"...as the figures show.

That is correct, their participation was not necessary.

They gave it nonetheless. Other notables from the left who gave their consent include Senator Joe Biden, Senator Chuck Schumer, Senator Barbara Boxer and Senator Dianne Feinstein. I must assume they must have found something in the bill appealing.

 

[Craig]

That is correct, their participation was not necessary.

They gave it nonetheless. Other notables from the left who gave their consent include Senator Joe Biden, Senator Chuck Schumer, Senator Barbara Boxer and Senator Dianne Feinstein. I must assume they must have found something in the bill appealing.

I presented the information you feel the need to explain to me. Thanks.

 

[JackDallas]

The reality is...219 GOPers voted for the bill. That's 50% +1 and is enough to pass a bill with no additional input. In addition, as the bill passed in 2006...why is it you blame Obama for the failure to build? The GOP was in charge in 2006.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/h446

54 GOP Senators voted aye. No...the Dems did not pass this bill. Yes...a few voted for it, but as we see, had zero Dems voted, the bill would have passed.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

Obama and Clinton voted for the bill, and besides, the president is supposed to enforce the law.

 

[Craig]

Obama and Clinton voted for the bill, and besides, the president is supposed to enforce the law.

Again...thanks for the information I knew.

Yes...and President Bush had 3 years to enforce the law.

Regardless...there are occasions on the board where headlines that are as misleading as yours get called out vociferously as mendacious. Some Dems voted for the bill...yes. Almost no GOPers voted against (just one GOP Senator, Lincoln Chafee, who soon after changed parties)...and, again, the GOP votes were enough by themselves to secure a winning margin.

Then, the GOP has had control of the budget etal for the 6 past years...and I do not recall them proceeding with the financial outlay for the task. Seems like a missed opportunity, as this construction is estimated to cost billions and billions of dollars...and then cost more and more billions maintaining it. What a terrific, yet entirely missed, opportunity for the GOP to saddle Obama with the billions in debt that will now belong to Trump.

 

[Days]

It is hilarious, they voted overwhelmingly to pass the law, Obama himself voted for it. Obama refused to enforce it, and no Democrat ever challenged him on it (no Republican either, so they were all ass-holes).
Now, Trump doesn't have to fight with congress to get them to write border wall legislation. He'll just enforce existing law, which is the president's job, in the first place.

I wrote this same thought as a comment below a YouTube video yesterday...



Damian Crudele 10 hours ago
Actually it is the duty of the executive branch to enforce the laws. The secure fence Act - passed by Congress and signed by GWBush - was the law of the land and Obama didn't execute it. Trump is just doing the job of the president.

... securing the nations borders is priority one to running a sovereign nation. Always has been. Ever since the Chinese built their wall and Hadran built his wall ... what was the first thing we tasked our forces with doing in Iraq? secure the border. Once upon a time, cities all had walls, and that verse about "passing through the eye of a needle" was how you entered a city to trade, the eye of a needle was the narrow opening in the city walls to allow traders in and out and tax them on their sold goods.

Obama was personally offended by the Arizona Governor wagging her finger in his face and threw a 8 year hissy fit, refusing to do his job.

 

[Tor-Pete-O]

Obama and Clinton voted for the bill, and besides, the president is supposed to enforce the law.

Obama was not a real president. Not in the sense of honoring his first and most sacred presidential duty. To "faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

He put his hand on a bible at his inauguration and swore an oath to God and the American people to uphold and enforce ALL THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY. Not just the ones he agrees with.

We are a nation of laws and not of man. This great American experiment would have ended a long time ago were it not for our brilliantly designed constitution.

The rule of law is the legal principle that law should govern a nation, as opposed to being governed by arbitrary decisions of any individual or government official.

Obama clearly fell short in that regard many times over.
75 times apparently.....

https://mountainrepublic.net/2016/01/07/75-times-obama-broke-law-during-presidency/

 

[Days]

Again...thanks for the information I knew.

Yes...and President Bush had 3 years to enforce the law.

Regardless...there are occasions on the board where headlines that are as misleading as yours get called out vociferously as mendacious. Some Dems voted for the bill...yes. Almost no GOPers voted against (just one GOP Senator, Lincoln Chafee, who soon after changed parties)...and, again, the GOP votes were enough by themselves to secure a winning margin.

Then, the GOP has had control of the budget etal for the 6 past years...and I do not recall them proceeding with the financial outlay for the task. Seems like a missed opportunity, as this construction is estimated to cost billions and billions of dollars...and then cost more and more billions maintaining it. What a terrific, yet entirely missed, opportunity for the GOP to saddle Obama with the billions in debt that will now belong to Trump.

Uhm, nice dance, but you got it backwards. Congress passed the law, after that it is the duty of the president to enforce the law; in this case that would mean doing the studies and then getting the funding in place; Congress doesn't do that, the executive branch does that.

 

[Craig]

Uhm, nice dance, but you got it backwards. Congress passed the law, after that it is the duty of the president to enforce the law; in this case that would mean doing the studies and then getting the funding in place; Congress doesn't do that, the executive branch does that.

The House is the funding branch.

Did the House appropriate the funds?

 

[Days]

I presented the information you feel the need to explain to me. Thanks.

because you are misreading the top post and misapplying the information, and zam was pointing out your error.

 

[Days]

The House is the funding branch.

Did the House appropriate the funds?

wow, you don't understand how execution of the laws works? The president does that. Watch how Trump executes this law, learn something.