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Protest that turn violent

You stated " In the case of Ferguson you have young Black males in the crowd who are on a daily basis directly affected by the actions of law enforcement They are also a group for whom law enforcement has little respect for their position in the community. "

how do you know what kind of respect they have for Fergusons? You clearly said that law enforcement have little respect for young black males..... how so? I live in St. Louis I'm interested in knowing how you draw that conclusion. Or were you implying Fergusons have no respect for cops in Ferguson?

Aside from the general history of black in this country there are on camera statements from citizens in the community.

And then there is this.

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/13/analyzes-of-ferguson-racial-profiling-data/
 
Protests that turn violent and the average intellect of some of the participants being less than that of a turnip...

:)

you need to rethink your generalization.

The 2011 Vancouver Stanley Cup riot was a public disturbance that broke out in the downtown core of Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada on Wednesday, June 15, 2011. The riots happened immediately after the conclusion of the Boston Bruins' win over the Vancouver Canucks in game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals, which won the Stanley Cup for Boston. At least 140 people were reported as injured during the incident, one critically; at least four people were stabbed, nine police officers were injured, and 101 people were arrested that night. As of July 2013[update], police have recommended 1,204 criminal charges against 352 suspected rioters. --wiki
 
you need to rethink your generalization.

The 2011 Vancouver Stanley Cup riot was a public disturbance that broke out in the downtown core of Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada on Wednesday, June 15, 2011. The riots happened immediately after the conclusion of the Boston Bruins' win over the Vancouver Canucks in game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals, which won the Stanley Cup for Boston. At least 140 people were reported as injured during the incident, one critically; at least four people were stabbed, nine police officers were injured, and 101 people were arrested that night. As of July 2013[update], police have recommended 1,204 criminal charges against 352 suspected rioters. --wiki

Wait a minute

Who said Hockey fans were all that bright in the first place ?
 
Aside from the general history of black in this country there are on camera statements from citizens in the community.

And then there is this.

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/13/analyzes-of-ferguson-racial-profiling-data/

Ferguson is predominately black, there will be more black stops/ arrests etc. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, this is a high crime rate area with a majority of those crimes being committed by blacks. We should not be surprised by those statistics. I would like to see more black cops in Ferguson, I think blacks would be more accepting of law enforcement.
 
Ferguson is predominately black, there will be more black stops/ arrests etc. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, this is a high crime rate area with a majority of those crimes being committed by blacks. We should not be surprised by those statistics. I would like to see more black cops in Ferguson, I think blacks would be more accepting of law enforcement.

When 9 out of 10 times you're stopping a group of people for nothing. That says a lot about what you think of them. These numbers represent an assumption of criminality by law enforcement. An assumption that according to your post you apparently agree with. You were all fired up when the suggestion was made about the view of their standing in the community. Yet here you are make excuses for a negative view by law enforcement of young black males when the evidence is presented.
 
When 9 out of 10 times you're stopping a group of people for nothing. That says a lot about what you think of them. These numbers represent an assumption of criminality by law enforcement. An assumption that according to your post you apparently agree with. You were all fired up when the suggestion was made about the view of their standing in the community. Yet here you are make excuses for a negative view by law enforcement of young black males when the evidence is presented.

9 out of 10 times stopping a group for doing nothing? Where's that evidence? That's 1.... facts speak for themselves, it's a bad neighborhood has been for the last 25 years. I wasn't all fired about anything I asked you what you meant, that the cops think nothing of them or they think nothing of the cops. In Ferguson it's a little bit of both. The crime and gang violence there is why there are more arrests. It's basic math.
 
This is quite a turn in logic on Spam's account.

From what I can tell, MOST Democrats on here have no problem lumping the entire south together as nothing but sloppy, racist, war-mongering rednecks.. and thus, use the culture to explain things that might happen.

However, the opposite is being said here. It's not to do with the culture at all...

Like a said, quite a turn in logic.
 
9 out of 10 times stopping a group for doing nothing? Where's that evidence? That's 1.... facts speak for themselves, it's a bad neighborhood has been for the last 25 years. I wasn't all fired about anything I asked you what you meant, that the cops think nothing of them or they think nothing of the cops. In Ferguson it's a little bit of both. The crime and gang violence there is why there are more arrests. It's basic math.

9 out of 10 times it does not result in an arrest was my point. Even though on a percentage basis they are less likely to find contraband.

When you look at the number presented by the police dept you see that on the interstate for example Blacks are only a little more likely Whites to be stopped 187 vs 215. But when it comes to policing on the city and county roads. Black are 10 times more likely to be stopped than Whites 145 county and 220 for city for Whites vs 1454 county and 2076 city for Blacks.


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These statistics say a lot about the subject of presumed criminality.


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This is quite a turn in logic on Spam's account.

From what I can tell, MOST Democrats on here have no problem lumping the entire south together as nothing but sloppy, racist, war-mongering rednecks.. and thus, use the culture to explain things that might happen.

However, the opposite is being said here. It's not to do with the culture at all...

Like a said, quite a turn in logic.

Do you disagree with what I said or just with who is saying it ? Also am I being lumped in, in you observation on lumping in ?
 
so to sum up, the contributing factors could be . . .

1 - drug use, leading to . . .

2 - dropping out of high school, leading to . ..

3 - youth unemployment, and wandering the streets with nothng to do
 
so to sum up, the contributing factors could be . . .

1 - drug use, leading to . . .

2 - dropping out of high school, leading to . ..

3 - youth unemployment, and wandering the streets with nothng to do

how many, of all the people protesting, were actually looting on day 1 of the protests?
 
so to sum up, the contributing factors could be . . .

1 - drug use, leading to . . .

2 - dropping out of high school, leading to . ..

3 - youth unemployment, and wandering the streets with nothng to do

Leading to powerlessness in society. Which might cause individuals with authority to disregard their rights and concerns ? Which are the very same rights and concerns that a non drug using employed high school graduate has ?
 
So one population is twice that of the other but the stops are still 10 times as high.

All I'm saying is that a 27%-66% ratio of white to black puts an entirely new perspective on your attempt to pass off shock stats that ignore important information on purpose.
 
Leading to powerlessness in society. Which might cause individuals with authority to disregard their rights and concerns ? Which are the very same rights and concerns that a non drug using employed high school graduate has ?

Are you suggesting that drug-using, unemployed, high school dropouts and non-drug using, employed high-school-diploma-carriers are pretty much the same?

Really?
 
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