remember how Reagan handled apartheid in S Africa?

[JuliefromOhio]

Bishop Desmond Tutu called Reagan's policy immoral...
congress had to override Reagan's veto to put sanctions in place.

http://www.salon.com/2011/02/05/ronald_reagan_apartheid_south_africa/

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Your really going to piss off the Pugs by honestly discussing the record of Saint Ronald the Reagan.

;-)

 

[Pogue Mahone]

LOL now I know you are a shill. There's at least one poster on every forum I've visited this evening making this exact same post. You're just handing off canned talking points.

 

[RickWA]

Bishop Desmond Tutu called Reagan's policy immoral...
congress had to override Reagan's veto to put sanctions in place.

http://www.salon.com/2011/02/05/ronald_reagan_apartheid_south_africa/

It's "Battle of the Tasteless Demeaning Posts of Dead Men" night here at PJ.

Who's got next?!?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

It's "Battle of the Tasteless Demeaning Posts of Dead Men" night here at PJ.

Who's got next?!?

You sure have a bitter aversion to reality.

Yikes.

 

[RickWA]

You sure have a bitter aversion to reality.

Yikes.

Consistent rejection of tasteless demeaning of the deceased...yes indeed. Let dead people rest.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Your really going to piss off the Pugs by honestly discussing the record of Saint Ronald the Reagan.

;-)

Reagan's support of apartheid eventually put him on the wrong side of his own party and offended congress such that they overrode his veto of the sanctions. Reagan had it in his head that frickin' commies would take over the country if apartheid ended. he was a simple-minded man.

 

[RickWA]

Reagan's support of apartheid eventually put him on the wrong side of his own party and offended congress such that they overrode his veto of the sanctions. Reagan had it in his head that frickin' commies would take over the country if apartheid ended. he was a simple-minded man.

Of course he didn't "support apartheid". He simply sought to maintain stability and it was wrongheaded. It's much like just about every administration's acceptance of many dictatorships in place throughout the world rather than destabilization. The USA has made many messes in that way - particularly during the Cold War.

But feel free to pile on the dead guys (well, the one's who aren't leftists anyway).

 

[SW48]

Bishop Desmond Tutu called Reagan's policy immoral...
congress had to override Reagan's veto to put sanctions in place.

http://www.salon.com/2011/02/05/ronald_reagan_apartheid_south_africa/

Reagan was wrong.

That being said, Bugsy said yesterday that undermining a presidents foreign policy is sabotage. Of course he was talking about president Obama, I'm sure he doesn't feel its sabotage when it was Reagan who's veto on foreign policy was overturned.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Of course he didn't "support apartheid". He simply sought to maintain stability and it was wrongheaded. It's much like just about every administration's acceptance of many dictatorships in place throughout the world rather than destabilization. The USA has made many messes in that way - particularly during the Cold War.

But feel free to pile on the dead guys (well, the one's who aren't leftists anyway).

The "stability" in question WAS apartheid.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Reagan was wrong.

That being said, Bugsy said yesterday that undermining a presidents foreign policy is sabotage. Of course he was talking about president Obama, I'm sure he doesn't feel its sabotage when it was Reagan who's veto on foreign policy was overturned.

You Pugs always confuse the legitimate legislative process with extra-legislative sabotage.

I try to pound that simple concept into Republican heads, but it's like trying to teach calculus to dogs.

 

[RickWA]

The "stability" in question WAS apartheid.

The stability in question was the prevailing system - much like many dictatorships throughout the world. In any case, enjoy the selective rants against dead guys. That's just not my bag.

 

[RickWA]

You Pugs always confuse the legitimate legislative process with extra-legislative sabotage.

I try to pound that simple concept into Republican heads, but it's like trying to teach calculus to dogs.

"legitimate legislative process" being defined as that which bends to Obamawill.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

The stability in question was the prevailing system - much like many dictatorships throughout the world. In any case, enjoy the selective rants against dead guys. That's just not my bag.

The "prevaling system" WAS apartheid.

You can dance and engage in semantics all day, but Reagan still supported perpetuating apartheid.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

"legitimate legislative process" being defined as that which bends to Obamawill.

No need to define it - it's obvious to sane people not blinded by hate. For others, I offer the following...

Votes on bills in Congress? Legitmate. Congress members sabotaging laws if they can't achieve their aims through such votes? Illegitimate.

Has it sunk in yet?

 

[RickWA]

No need to define it - it's obvious to sane people not blinded by hate. For others, I offer the following...

Votes on bills in Congress? Legitmate. Congress members sabotaging laws if they can't achieve their aims through such votes? Illegitimate.

Has it sunk in yet?

Have your goofy, cultish, Obamabot-sycophantic fealty demands sunk in? Umm...no. I'll not join the pod people.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Have your goofy, cultish, Obamabot-sycophantic fealty demands sunk in? Umm...no. I'll not join the pod people.

Translation: I get it now. Here's a supplemental rant...

 

[RickWA]

Translation: I get it now. Here's a supplemental rant...

Nope. Same thing. Your dronehood is fully intact.

 

[Arkady]

Consistent rejection of tasteless demeaning of the deceased...yes indeed. Let dead people rest.

Yes. Every time someone criticizes the policies of Hitler, Stalin, Atilla the Hun, Pontius Pilate, etc., it's important that we speak up against demeaning the deceased. Thank goodness we have you here to police our decorem!

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Nope. Same thing. Your dronehood is fully intact.

Translation: I wish I could rebut positions instead of just calling people partisan. Oh well...