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Republicans fail. Senate ACA Replacement Dies

@Spamature @BobbyT

If they repeal they will need to cancel insurance policies that aren't catastrophic insurance or medical prices will go up faster than inflation just like it did before Obamacare.

I don't think they have the balls so we are all going to have to settle for MediocreCare for all.

If I were you guys I'd buy some medical books and start reading so that you can be informed consumers. Better yet pay for someone in your family to go to medical school.
 
Spamature said:
Mitch couldn't get them to all hold hand and jump. Too bad.

GOP gives up on replacing Obamacare now: McConnell and Trump call for simply repealing

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/17/pres...g-obamacare-now-without-replacement-plan.html
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They shouldn't be ridiculed for failing. They should be ridiculed for trying because they never had an actual plan to repeal and/or replace since the PPACA passed. It has been nothing but a campaign slogan and that fact has been laid bare.
 
resident_evil said:
@Spamature @BobbyT

If they repeal they will need to cancel insurance policies that aren't catastrophic insurance or medical prices will go up faster than inflation just like it did before Obamacare.

I don't think they have the balls so we are all going to have to settle for MediocreCare for all.

If I were you guys I'd buy some medical books and start reading so that you can be informed consumers. Better yet pay for someone in your family to go to medical school.
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They're kicking the can 2 yrs down the road. They have done exactly nothing. The ACA is now as much their law as it is the Dems if they vote to keep it for two more years without doing anything.
 
bdtex said:
They shouldn't be ridiculed for failing. They should be ridiculed for trying because they never had an actual plan to repeal and/or replace since the PPACA passed. It has been nothing but a campaign slogan and that fact has been laid bare.
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No but the had a tax cut they sure wanted to dole out. I guess this put the kibosh on that too unless they're willing to get some Democrats to join them in increasing the deficit for it. In which case Mitch will open up the barrel and start passing around pork to all comers to get that through.
 
Spamature said:
They're kicking the can 2 yrs down the road. They have done exactly nothing. The ACA is now as much their law as it is the Dems if they vote to keep it for two more years without doing anything.
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Obamacare is unconstitutional. I'm not voting for anybody that doesn't vote to repeal it ASAP. I'm still going to vote for other ballot items. If the country goes to hell because of my lack of vote then great. The faster we can default on $20T and start a new republic the better and that takes Democrats.
 
Spamature said:
In which case Mitch will open up the barrel and start passing around pork to all comers to get that through.
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I hope so because if they can't fix things we need to go to hell fast and have an actual revolution that resets the republic. A quick revolution that doesn't let infrastructure rot before we get going again. A managed long, slow decline that the Dimms and Gyno's plan for us is 3rd world stuff.

Buy gold. Best tax avoidance inheritance you'll give you kids.
 
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resident_evil said:
I hope so because if they can't fix things we need to go to hell fast and have an actual revolution that resets the republic. A quick revolution that doesn't let infrastructure rot before we get going again. A managed long, slow decline that the Dimms and Gyno's plan for us is 3rd world stuff.

Buy gold. Best tax avoidance inheritance you'll give you kids.
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If that your attitude teach them Chinese or Hindi. Because the line to on deck circle of world leading nations is always full. We fall somebody else will step up and take our place.
 
Spamature said:
If that your attitude teach them Chinese or Hindi. Because the line to on deck circle of world leading nations is always full. We fall somebody else will step up and take our place.
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Ha ha...

When we default on all $20-35T of our debt there will be wars in our absence. Especially in the M.E. Oil may will stop flowing from there for 8 to 20 years. China will rot on the vine and Europe will atrophy.

The U.S., Russia, Canada, Venezuela, Nigeria, and a couple of other countries will be better off than the rest unless fusion research has a big breakthrough overnight. China will try at having a classical liberal democracy to save itself and still likely end up broken up into a number of separate countries. Tibet and Mongolia would free. Russia would have an Islamic invasion.

India would starve until its land mass could more naturally support its population levels.
 
resident_evil said:
Ha ha...

When we default on all $20-35T of our debt there will be wars in our absence. Especially in the M.E. Oil may will stop flowing from there for 8 to 20 years. China will rot on the vine and Europe will atrophy.

The U.S., Russia, Canada, Venezuela, Nigeria, and a couple of other countries will be better off than the rest unless fusion research has a big breakthrough overnight. China will try at having a classical liberal democracy to save itself and still likely end up broken up into a number of separate countries. Tibet and Mongolia would free. Russia would have an Islamic invasion.

India would starve until its land mass could more naturally support its population levels.
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You do realize that we would have to be the ones starving before there would be a revolution that would overthrow the govt. The best you can hope for is some cult figure to take over and run the nation. We have that right now. So take a good look at your revolution because you're living in its pale reflection of it right now.
 
Constitutional Sheepdog said:
You seem happy about this. It's actually great because you'll get to actually see Obamacare collapse
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So your GOP is now going to just let the health insurance system in this country collapse while they stand there and watch ? You might as well have never elected them if worse than now is the best outcome you can hope for.
 
Spamature said:
So your GOP is now going to just let the health insurance system in this country collapse while they stand there and watch ? You might as well have never elected them if worse than now is the best outcome you can hope for.
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It was your party that created the mess. Remember when obama claimed Republicans drove the car into the ditch. Well we are in the ditch now and Democrats caused it now are asking to be saved? not on your life.
 
Spamature said:
You do realize that we would have to be the ones starving before there would be a revolution that would overthrow the govt.
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It's why I told you to prep for the worse case scenario. But long before an armed population starves their government is overthrown. You just have to hope that God fearing Protestants take the lead and rebuild the republic not from scratch but from the bones of the 1st republic. Done quickly our infrastructure (to include people) will not rot.

The best you can hope for is some cult figure to take over and run the nation. We have that right now. So take a good look at your revolution because you're living in its pale reflection of it right now.
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No, the best to hope for is that Christian men of good character take over like the founding fathers did. If not we deserve what we get. There is either enough of America left to start over or there isn't. If we wait long there won't be anything left to start over with.
 
resident_evil said:
I hope so because if they can't fix things we need to go to hell fast and have an actual revolution that resets the republic. A quick revolution that doesn't let infrastructure rot before we get going again. A managed long, slow decline that the Dimms and Gyno's plan for us is 3rd world stuff.

Buy gold. Best tax avoidance inheritance you'll give you kids.
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And ammo.... lots of ammo.

SB
And whiskey
 
resident_evil said:
Obamacare is unconstitutional. I'm not voting for anybody that doesn't vote to repeal it ASAP. I'm still going to vote for other ballot items. If the country goes to hell because of my lack of vote then great. The faster we can default on $20T and start a new republic the better and that takes Democrats.
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Dude, Life's pretty good right now. people have roofs over their heads, and food on their plate. Why would anyone turn to nihilism?
 
resident_evil said:
There are $20T and growing reasons to turn towards nihilism. Complete failure can be a rational option but even complete failure has to be managed.
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Print up twenty 1 trillion dollar notes- hand them over to China, and the debt is paid. They won't be able to make change, so the currency never hits the market, so no inflation, so no downside.
 
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