New Posts
  • Hi there guest! Welcome to PoliticalJack.com. Register for free to join our community?

Robert Reich.....

Zam-Zam

Senator
.....a man no one will accuse of being a right-wing zealot, offered this analysis of how Ms. Clinton lost to a political novice:

The power structure of America wrote off Sanders as an aberration, and, until recently, didn’t take Trump seriously. A respected political insider recently told me most Americans were largely content with the status quo. “The economy is in good shape,” he said. “Most Americans are better off than they’ve been in years.”


Recent economic indicators may be up, but those indicators don’t reflect the insecurity most Americans continue to feel, nor the seeming arbitrariness and unfairness they experience. Nor do the major indicators show the linkages many Americans see between wealth and power, stagnant or declining real wages, soaring CEO pay, and the undermining of democracy by big money.


Median family income is lower now than it was 16 years ago, adjusted for inflation. Workers without college degrees – the old working class – have fallen furthest. Most economic gains, meanwhile, have gone to top. These gains have translated into political power to elicit bank bailouts, corporate subsidies, special tax loopholes, favorable trade deals and increasing market power without interference by anti-monopoly enforcement – all of which have further reduced wages and pulled up profits.

Wealth, power and crony capitalism fit together. Americans know a takeover has occurred, and they blame the establishment for it.


The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.


Democrats have occupied the White House for 16 of the last 24 years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of Congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and economic security. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.



Complete text: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/10/democrats-working-class-americans-us-election

I seldom find myself in agreement with Mr. Reich, but I'll be darned if I can find anything I can point to as incorrect in what he has written here.
 
Wealth, power and crony capitalism fit together. Americans know a takeover has occurred, and they blame the establishment for it.
The following is part of Trump's solution to that takeover:
img_8126_custom-17b006c08d54ac97b58e29e7f81636f83dd3f0ad-s1300-c85.jpg

"Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate."
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
Trump's solution will do little to end the effects of neoliberalism for 90% of US workers; "make America great again" is sounding a lot like "hope and change" did eight years ago.
 
The following is part of Trump's solution to that takeover:
img_8126_custom-17b006c08d54ac97b58e29e7f81636f83dd3f0ad-s1300-c85.jpg

"Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate."
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
Trump's solution will do little to end the effects of neoliberalism for 90% of US workers; "make America great again" is sounding a lot like "hope and change" did eight years ago.

But it can be done - will it be? We shall see ------------- the suspense!

At least this is not going to be boring George ;)
 
But it can be done - will it be? We shall see ------------- the suspense!

At least this is not going to be boring George ;)
It will not be boring, QT. I can't wait for Trump's first hissy fit; although one of his principal advisers, Newt Gingrich, has recently suggested bringing back the House Un-American Activities Committee.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/newt-gingrich-house-un-american-activities-committee/
IMHO, it's only a matter of time (>2 years?) before Trump's base realizes they have been lied to. By that time massive deportations of undocumented migrants (2 million?) will have mobilized hundreds of thousands of leftists to take to the streets. If the two elements decide on a strategic alliance, Trump may have to resort to a massive military crackdown on US citizens. If so, figures like Gingrich and Chris Christie will be happy to charge ALL demonstrators (violent and non-violent) will be charged as "terrorists." In a nutshell, I don't think most Trump voters had any idea what they were getting in to.
 
It will not be boring, QT. I can't wait for Trump's first hissy fit; although one of his principal advisers, Newt Gingrich, has recently suggested bringing back the House Un-American Activities Committee.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/newt-gingrich-house-un-american-activities-committee/
IMHO, it's only a matter of time (>2 years?) before Trump's base realizes they have been lied to. By that time massive deportations of undocumented migrants (2 million?) will have mobilized hundreds of thousands of leftists to take to the streets. If the two elements decide on a strategic alliance, Trump may have to resort to a massive military crackdown on US citizens. If so, figures like Gingrich and Chris Christie will be happy to charge ALL demonstrators (violent and non-violent) will be charged as "terrorists." In a nutshell, I don't think most Trump voters had any idea what they were getting in to.

We shall see - he has backed away from the deportations - I read that rhetoric has disappeared from his web site - you will understand better than I wtf is going on by who he has surrounding him = Obama and the City Bank.
 
.....a man no one will accuse of being a right-wing zealot, offered this analysis of how Ms. Clinton lost to a political novice:

The power structure of America wrote off Sanders as an aberration, and, until recently, didn’t take Trump seriously. A respected political insider recently told me most Americans were largely content with the status quo. “The economy is in good shape,” he said. “Most Americans are better off than they’ve been in years.”


Recent economic indicators may be up, but those indicators don’t reflect the insecurity most Americans continue to feel, nor the seeming arbitrariness and unfairness they experience. Nor do the major indicators show the linkages many Americans see between wealth and power, stagnant or declining real wages, soaring CEO pay, and the undermining of democracy by big money.


Median family income is lower now than it was 16 years ago, adjusted for inflation. Workers without college degrees – the old working class – have fallen furthest. Most economic gains, meanwhile, have gone to top. These gains have translated into political power to elicit bank bailouts, corporate subsidies, special tax loopholes, favorable trade deals and increasing market power without interference by anti-monopoly enforcement – all of which have further reduced wages and pulled up profits.

Wealth, power and crony capitalism fit together. Americans know a takeover has occurred, and they blame the establishment for it.


The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.


Democrats have occupied the White House for 16 of the last 24 years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of Congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and economic security. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.



Complete text: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/10/democrats-working-class-americans-us-election

I seldom find myself in agreement with Mr. Reich, but I'll be darned if I can find anything I can point to as incorrect in what he has written here.

Dude, I nearly fell out of my chair after realizing I agree with an entire piece written by Robert Reich.

Great find!
 
We shall see - he has backed away from the deportations - I read that rhetoric has disappeared from his web site - you will understand better than I wtf is going on by who he has surrounding him = Obama and the City Bank.

The Art Of The Deal: start with a ridiculous offer. By the time negotiations end, you can end up with what you're really willing to settle for. Negotiations are only halfway complete, but so far so good.

I will settle for simply quantifying how many people we can let in, controlling who let in and making as certain as possible they are people who will contribute.

I'd stop refugee importation and pressure the wealthy nations in the region to man up and do their part. But of course, that isn't the globalist plan. If the entire planet can be infested with such an oppressive religion, we will all be easier to control.
 
We shall see - he has backed away from the deportations - I read that rhetoric has disappeared from his web site - you will understand better than I wtf is going on by who he has surrounding him = Obama and the City Bank.
The latest number I've seen is 2 million deportations of the "criminally undocumented" population. I don't know how many of these people are already in jail, but it is a long way from what he was calling for in June, 2015.(~11 million) Trump's likely pick for Treasure Secretary is a Goldman Sachs alum, so much for taking on Wall Street.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/who-is-in-president-trump-cabinet-231071

"Trumpworld has started with a mandate to hire from the private sector whenever possible. That’s why the Trump campaign is seriously considering Forrest Lucas, the 74-year-old co-founder of oil products company Lucas Oil, as a top contender for Interior secretary, or donor and Goldman Sachs veteran Steven Mnuchin as Treasury secretary."
 
Dude, I nearly fell out of my chair after realizing I agree with an entire piece written by Robert Reich.

Great find!
Glenn Greenwald is another lefty with pretty good insights into why Trump "won:"

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09...gerous-refusal-to-learn-the-lesson-of-brexit/

"After the Brexit vote, I wrote an article comprehensively detailing these dynamics, which I won’t repeat here but hope those interested will read.

"The title conveys the crux: 'Brexit Is Only the Latest Proof of the Insularity and Failure of Western Establishment Institutions.' That analysis was inspired by a short, incredibly insightful, and now more relevant than ever post-Brexit Facebook note by the Los Angeles Times’s Vincent Bevins, who wrote that 'both Brexit and Trumpism are the very, very wrong answers to legitimate questions that urban elites have refused to ask for 30 years.'

"Bevins went on: 'Since the 1980s the elites in rich countries have overplayed their hand, taking all the gains for themselves and just covering their ears when anyone else talks, and now they are watching in horror as voters revolt.'”

btw, did you know Trump garnered fewer votes than Romney in 2012?:eek:
 
Glenn Greenwald is another lefty with pretty good insights into why Trump "won:"

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09...gerous-refusal-to-learn-the-lesson-of-brexit/

"After the Brexit vote, I wrote an article comprehensively detailing these dynamics, which I won’t repeat here but hope those interested will read.

"The title conveys the crux: 'Brexit Is Only the Latest Proof of the Insularity and Failure of Western Establishment Institutions.' That analysis was inspired by a short, incredibly insightful, and now more relevant than ever post-Brexit Facebook note by the Los Angeles Times’s Vincent Bevins, who wrote that 'both Brexit and Trumpism are the very, very wrong answers to legitimate questions that urban elites have refused to ask for 30 years.'

"Bevins went on: 'Since the 1980s the elites in rich countries have overplayed their hand, taking all the gains for themselves and just covering their ears when anyone else talks, and now they are watching in horror as voters revolt.'”

btw, did you know Trump garnered fewer votes than Romney in 2012?:eek:

I'll have to respectfully disagree with Mr. Greenwald, in that we don't know how Trump will govern. I will certainly say this: he is not likely to be as bad as Hillary certainly would have been.
 
I'll have to respectfully disagree with Mr. Greenwald, in that we don't know how Trump will govern. I will certainly say this: he is not likely to be as bad as Hillary certainly would have been.
I still believe Hillary was the more efficient Evil, but I don't expect either Clinton or Trump to change this particular dynamic:
new-york-limosine-liberals.jpg

"The indisputable fact is that prevailing institutions of authority in the West, for decades, have relentlessly and with complete indifference stomped on the economic welfare and social security of hundreds of millions of people.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09...gerous-refusal-to-learn-the-lesson-of-brexit/

"While elite circles gorged themselves on globalism, free trade, Wall Street casino gambling, and endless wars (wars that enriched the perpetrators and sent the poorest and most marginalized to bear all their burdens), they completely ignored the victims of their gluttony, except when those victims piped up a bit too much — when they caused a ruckus — and were then scornfully condemned as troglodytes who were the deserved losers in the glorious, global game of meritocracy.
https://www.rt.com/news/366371-pilger-trump-clinton-liberals/
 
I still believe Hillary was the more efficient Evil, but I don't expect either Clinton or Trump to change this particular dynamic:
new-york-limosine-liberals.jpg

"The indisputable fact is that prevailing institutions of authority in the West, for decades, have relentlessly and with complete indifference stomped on the economic welfare and social security of hundreds of millions of people.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09...gerous-refusal-to-learn-the-lesson-of-brexit/

"While elite circles gorged themselves on globalism, free trade, Wall Street casino gambling, and endless wars (wars that enriched the perpetrators and sent the poorest and most marginalized to bear all their burdens), they completely ignored the victims of their gluttony, except when those victims piped up a bit too much — when they caused a ruckus — and were then scornfully condemned as troglodytes who were the deserved losers in the glorious, global game of meritocracy.
https://www.rt.com/news/366371-pilger-trump-clinton-liberals/

Honestly, I don't make much of these photos. One would expect a billionaire businessman to schmooze with political hacks from his state.
 
Honestly, I don't make much of these photos. One would expect a billionaire businessman to schmooze with political hacks from his state.
Here's the point I was trying to make with that photo:
fire-economy.jpg

The FIRE sector refers to finance, insurance, and real estate. The Clintons have spent their entire political lives serving fire sector interests, and Trump was born into it.

It's hard for me to imagine Trump will turn against his roots, but he may be less successful at advancing their interests, at least when compared to Hillary.:confused:
 
Here's the point I was trying to make with that photo:
fire-economy.jpg

The FIRE sector refers to finance, insurance, and real estate. The Clintons have spent their entire political lives serving fire sector interests, and Trump was born into it.

It's hard for me to imagine Trump will turn against his roots, but he may be less successful at advancing their interests, at least when compared to Hillary.:confused:



One thing - just one, is the hint of a promise of a pull back from war --------- that in and of its self enhances, peace brings happiness to a people which speaks millions and allows for creativity -
 
The Art Of The Deal: start with a ridiculous offer. By the time negotiations end, you can end up with what you're really willing to settle for. Negotiations are only halfway complete, but so far so good.

I will settle for simply quantifying how many people we can let in, controlling who let in and making as certain as possible they are people who will contribute.

I'd stop refugee importation and pressure the wealthy nations in the region to man up and do their part. But of course, that isn't the globalist plan. If the entire planet can be infested with such an oppressive religion, we will all be easier to control.

Just stop destabilizing by war - people do not want to leave their homes -
 
The latest number I've seen is 2 million deportations of the "criminally undocumented" population. I don't know how many of these people are already in jail, but it is a long way from what he was calling for in June, 2015.(~11 million) Trump's likely pick for Treasure Secretary is a Goldman Sachs alum, so much for taking on Wall Street.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/who-is-in-president-trump-cabinet-231071

"Trumpworld has started with a mandate to hire from the private sector whenever possible. That’s why the Trump campaign is seriously considering Forrest Lucas, the 74-year-old co-founder of oil products company Lucas Oil, as a top contender for Interior secretary, or donor and Goldman Sachs veteran Steven Mnuchin as Treasury secretary."

I heard of another Big Bank fella too - impossible to have done it without them George, impossible.

The test will be what he can do in spite of them.
 
Just stop destabilizing by war - people do not want to leave their homes -

I am hoping Trump's pragmatic side will see the cost of war is nowhere near worth it. Better just let virtually all the MIC gangsters find another line of work.
 
I am hoping Trump's pragmatic side will see the cost of war is nowhere near worth it. Better just let virtually all the MIC gangsters find another line of work.

Not worth the cost for the country - but the country pays the cost for ? and ? and ? = so whose side he is on? It will tell and soon I should imagine.

Putin will tell us ;)
 
The Art Of The Deal: start with a ridiculous offer. By the time negotiations end, you can end up with what you're really willing to settle for. Negotiations are only halfway complete, but so far so good.

I will settle for simply quantifying how many people we can let in, controlling who let in and making as certain as possible they are people who will contribute.

I'd stop refugee importation and pressure the wealthy nations in the region to man up and do their part. But of course, that isn't the globalist plan. If the entire planet can be infested with such an oppressive religion, we will all be easier to control.

It is the balance which is going to fall out of kilter - Under the umbrella of Christianity all religions could nestle in peace - until now - the call to prayer should not be heard every hour in an English town or village - Church Bells on a Sunday should not be banned - but it is so --------------- The EU/Law prevents us from doing anything to protect our traditions in our own land sooooooooooo it cannot be our own land any longer, can it?
 
If only his dad and grandfather shared the same exact name as Robert. The irony would be delicious...
 
Back
Top