Self Defense? Major BS

[Boltlady]

How many times have we heard that Israel only does what it does in self defense? There they are, the victims of constant rocket fire so they must bomb the daylights out of Gaza to 'protect' themselves. This is not about Gaza. It's about the West Bank that has not been firing rockets.

Well, this following bit shows just how nasty these people can be and it has nothing to do with 'self dense'.

PALESTINE STINKS FROM ZIONISM
September 1, 2014 at 10:12 (Collective Punishment, Hasbara, Israel, Occupied West Bank,Palestine, zionist harassment)

Bet you thought this was going to be about Mahmoud Abbas

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“Apart from the repulsive nausea-inducing stench, the skunk liquid can cause pain and redness if it comes into contact with eyes, irritation if it comes into contact with skin and if swallowed can cause abdominal pain requiring medical treatment,” according to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI).

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Video: Palestinians cheer as Israeli “skunk” truck crashes into ravine
Ali Abunimah
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It has been described as smelling like “a chunk of rotting corpse from a stagnant sewer” placed in a blender.

It is the foul-smelling liquid the “skunk” truck, one of Israel’s weapons of occupation and oppression, routinely sprays at Palestinians.

One of these skunk trucks can be seen in the video above spraying a jet of the disgusting liquid in eastern occupied Jerusalem on Saturday.

“Apart from the repulsive nausea-inducing stench, the skunk liquid can cause pain and redness if it comes into contact with eyes, irritation if it comes into contact with skin and if swallowed can cause abdominal pain requiring medical treatment,” according to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI).

The children who evidently shot the video and can be heard talking are lamenting that the truck seems to be heading in the direction of their house.

They reassure eachother that the windows of their house are closed.

But then something extraordinary happens. The truck tumbles off the road down a vertical ravine to the cheers and delight of the people of the neighborhood and the children making the film.

on Twitter
The video has circulated widely on social media and was posted earlier today on the Facebook page of Quds News Network.

Wattan TV reported that the skunk truck was deployed after youths went into the streets of the al-Tur neighborhood to protest ongoing detentions by occupation police.

Israeli occupation forces detained almost 600 Palestinians in the occupied West Bank in August, mostly in eastern occupied Jerusalem and Hebron, a crackdown carried out while much attention has been focused on Israel’s attack on Gaza.

The US State Department has accused Israeli occupation forces of “singling out” members of the Abu Khudair family for harassment and arrest.

Indiscriminate use of “skunk”
As can be seen in the video, the skunk truck appears to be spraying a jet of its foul liquid over a wide area and at houses, an act that can have no effect other than to further provoke and aggravate the Palestinian victims of the Israeli occupation.

On 26 August, the Wadi Hilweh Information Center, a local Jerusalem news agency,reported that Israeli occupation forces had severely escalated their use of skunk trucks over the last two months.

Jerusalemites complained about the routine and indiscriminate spraying of the foul liquid at their homes, cars and businesses and said that the occupation has done this with increasing frequency since the 2 July kidnapping and murder by Israeli settlers of the Jerusalemite teenager Muhammad Abu Khudair.

On 10 August, ACRI said it had contacted the commander of Jerusalem’s occupation police “to request that he urgently clarify the details” of Israel’s use of the substance.

“Witness testimony reveals that the police indiscriminately sprayed the skunk liquid towards houses, people, restaurants brimming with people and in crowded streets, causing harm to innocent residents,” ACRI said. “Evidence suggests that in some cases the skunk repellent was arbitrarily used with no apparent justification and in the absence of any public disturbances.”

It’s no wonder Palestinians were so delighted to see at least one Israeli skunk truck put out of action.

PALESTINE STINKS FROM ZIONISM | Desertpeace

 

[Boltlady]

How many times have we heard that Israel only does what it does in self defense? There they are, the victims of constant rocket fire so they must bomb the daylights out of Gaza to 'protect' themselves. This is not about Gaza. It's about the West Bank that has not been firing rockets.

Well, this following bit shows just how nasty these people can be and it has nothing to do with 'self dense'.

PALESTINE STINKS FROM ZIONISM
September 1, 2014 at 10:12 (Collective Punishment, Hasbara, Israel, Occupied West Bank,Palestine, zionist harassment)

Bet you thought this was going to be about Mahmoud Abbas

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“Apart from the repulsive nausea-inducing stench, the skunk liquid can cause pain and redness if it comes into contact with eyes, irritation if it comes into contact with skin and if swallowed can cause abdominal pain requiring medical treatment,” according to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI).

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Video: Palestinians cheer as Israeli “skunk” truck crashes into ravine
Ali Abunimah
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It has been described as smelling like “a chunk of rotting corpse from a stagnant sewer” placed in a blender.

It is the foul-smelling liquid the “skunk” truck, one of Israel’s weapons of occupation and oppression, routinely sprays at Palestinians.

One of these skunk trucks can be seen in the video above spraying a jet of the disgusting liquid in eastern occupied Jerusalem on Saturday.

“Apart from the repulsive nausea-inducing stench, the skunk liquid can cause pain and redness if it comes into contact with eyes, irritation if it comes into contact with skin and if swallowed can cause abdominal pain requiring medical treatment,” according to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI).

The children who evidently shot the video and can be heard talking are lamenting that the truck seems to be heading in the direction of their house.

They reassure eachother that the windows of their house are closed.

But then something extraordinary happens. The truck tumbles off the road down a vertical ravine to the cheers and delight of the people of the neighborhood and the children making the film.

on Twitter
The video has circulated widely on social media and was posted earlier today on the Facebook page of Quds News Network.

Wattan TV reported that the skunk truck was deployed after youths went into the streets of the al-Tur neighborhood to protest ongoing detentions by occupation police.

Israeli occupation forces detained almost 600 Palestinians in the occupied West Bank in August, mostly in eastern occupied Jerusalem and Hebron, a crackdown carried out while much attention has been focused on Israel’s attack on Gaza.

The US State Department has accused Israeli occupation forces of “singling out” members of the Abu Khudair family for harassment and arrest.

Indiscriminate use of “skunk”
As can be seen in the video, the skunk truck appears to be spraying a jet of its foul liquid over a wide area and at houses, an act that can have no effect other than to further provoke and aggravate the Palestinian victims of the Israeli occupation.

On 26 August, the Wadi Hilweh Information Center, a local Jerusalem news agency,reported that Israeli occupation forces had severely escalated their use of skunk trucks over the last two months.

Jerusalemites complained about the routine and indiscriminate spraying of the foul liquid at their homes, cars and businesses and said that the occupation has done this with increasing frequency since the 2 July kidnapping and murder by Israeli settlers of the Jerusalemite teenager Muhammad Abu Khudair.

On 10 August, ACRI said it had contacted the commander of Jerusalem’s occupation police “to request that he urgently clarify the details” of Israel’s use of the substance.

“Witness testimony reveals that the police indiscriminately sprayed the skunk liquid towards houses, people, restaurants brimming with people and in crowded streets, causing harm to innocent residents,” ACRI said. “Evidence suggests that in some cases the skunk repellent was arbitrarily used with no apparent justification and in the absence of any public disturbances.”

It’s no wonder Palestinians were so delighted to see at least one Israeli skunk truck put out of action.

PALESTINE STINKS FROM ZIONISM | Desertpeace

Somehow I have to believe that once people saw that 'political cartoon' they stopped there instead of scrolling on down and reading the article.
These people are being regularly sprayed with skunk liquid for gawd's sake. How disgusting can you get?

There is no way in the world that this involves anything but sheer, unadulterated harassment. I can't begin to see how people would defend this type of action.

 

[Dino]

Somehow I have to believe that once people saw that 'political cartoon' they stopped there instead of scrolling on down and reading the article.
These people are being regularly sprayed with skunk liquid for gawd's sake. How disgusting can you get?

There is no way in the world that this involves anything but sheer, unadulterated harassment. I can't begin to see how people would defend this type of action.

I think people can choose what gets them angry and decide how hot and bothered they will get over it.
Me personally?
I'd save the "angry" emoticon for those of a cult that kidnap, behead, engage in religious intolerance and ethnic cleansing, fire rockets into populated areas, engage in high-profile executions, pogroms, suicide bombings and other terrorism practices. Not just in Gaza, but literally worldwide and is presently conducting such attacks in Spain, Nigeria, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, China, Somalia, and Yemen among others.

But hey, who am I to choose what upsets you?

 

[Boltlady]

I think people can choose what gets them angry and decide how hot and bothered they will get over it.
Me personally?
I'd save the "angry" emoticon for those of a cult that kidnap, behead, engage in religious intolerance and ethnic cleansing, fire rockets into populated areas, engage in high-profile executions, pogroms, suicide bombings and other terrorism practices. Not just in Gaza, but literally worldwide and is presently conducting such attacks in Spain, Nigeria, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, China, Somalia, and Yemen among others.

But hey, who am I to choose what upsets you?

Yes, since you are obviously such a propaganda sponge, you are correct, you can't very well choose what would upset me.

You just follow your script.

 

[LanceFreeman]

I think people can choose what gets them angry and decide how hot and bothered they will get over it.
Me personally?
I'd save the "angry" emoticon for those of a cult that kidnap, behead, engage in religious intolerance and ethnic cleansing, fire rockets into populated areas, engage in high-profile executions, pogroms, suicide bombings and other terrorism practices. Not just in Gaza, but literally worldwide and is presently conducting such attacks in Spain, Nigeria, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, China, Somalia, and Yemen among others.
But hey, who am I to choose what upsets you?

Talk about one confused American. This is what living in a bubble all your life does to you. After a while, your brains turn to mush. Dino, old son, hate to tell you this, but your understanding of what goes on in the world, whether it is Islamic terrorism or anything else, leaves much to be desired. And this includes the situation in Gaza. Your understanding of what happened in Gaza is one twisted, mangled mess, thanks to the propaganda bubble you live in. It has little to do with reality.

 

[Boltlady]

Talk about one confused American. This is what living in a bubble all your life does to you. After a while, your brains turn to mush. Dino, old son, hate to tell you this, but your understanding of what goes on in the world, whether it is Islamic terrorism or anything else, leaves much to be desired. And this includes the situation in Gaza. Your understanding of what happened in Gaza is one twisted, mangled mess, thanks to the propaganda bubble you live in. It has little to do with reality.

There is constantly more talk about how robots will be used in our lives, but I think that plenty of them are already operating and posting on MBs. They rarely even get updated. They just continue to spew whatever their original programming has been. They probably just stare straight ahead like little wind-up dolls, only now it just takes the push of a button.

BTW, it really did get to me when I saw what is being done with the skunk juice. I'm not usually one for tit for tat, but I do think I would make an exception this time. It is something that should get snuck into Israel and sprayed all over the place. A few of their fine hotels would be a good place to start.

 

[MrMike]

LOL @ another anti-Israel post...

You poor e-Jihadis!

 

[Dawg]

Yes, since you are obviously such a propaganda sponge, you are correct, you can't very well choose what would upset me.

You just follow your script.

well let me tell you what would upset ME............if my neighbor kept shooting at me day in day out.....one night I'd go kill that neighbor and end the problem.

Sleep like a baby from them on.

 

[Boltlady]

well let me tell you what would upset ME............if my neighbor kept shooting at me day in day out.....one night I'd go kill that neighbor and end the problem.

Sleep like a baby from them on.

Do you keep your neighbor in a cage?

 

[MrMike]

Depends on the neighbor. If they act like an animal....

Do you keep your neighbor in a cage?

 

[Dawg]

Do you keep your neighbor in a cage?

no one in Gaza is in a cage............on the streets..do any of them work or do they just make more terrorist?

 

[Dawg]

Depends on the neighbor. If they act like an animal....

I wouldn't keep a neighbor in a cage..........I'd just make them dust to dust in the wind......

 

[Dino]

Talk about one confused American. This is what living in a bubble all your life does to you. After a while, your brains turn to mush. Dino, old son, hate to tell you this, but your understanding of what goes on in the world, whether it is Islamic terrorism or anything else, leaves much to be desired. And this includes the situation in Gaza. Your understanding of what happened in Gaza is one twisted, mangled mess, thanks to the propaganda bubble you live in. It has little to do with reality.

Okaaay, so it's NOT reality that radical Islamists are conducting war and terrorism and piracy against the perceived infidels?
What motivates semi-reasonable people to bury their heads in the sand and condone the actions of these homicidal and obviously misogynistic maniacs??
Is it nihilism, a push for global anarchy, or the unwillingness to confront a stark harsh reality?

 

[Boltlady]

Depends on the neighbor. If they act like an animal....

According to the talmud everyone who is not a Jew is to be treated like an animal. That includes all of these folks who leap to Israel's defense even though they themselves are not Jewish. Those folks don't seem to realize how low they are considered.

 

[Fast Eddy]

Let me think, which would I rather have used against me, deadly rockets or sunk juice.
Hmmm, I guess I would go with the skunk juice!
I would like to meet anyone that would pick rockets, that indeed I would have to see.

 

[write on]

Somehow I have to believe that once people saw that 'political cartoon' they stopped there instead of scrolling on down and reading the article.
These people are being regularly sprayed with skunk liquid for gawd's sake. How disgusting can you get?

There is no way in the world that this involves anything but sheer, unadulterated harassment. I can't begin to see how people would defend this type of action.

It would help case if you would just state your case instead of c&p what you read online.

Myself, I use what Jews say is in the Torah.

http://www.truetorahjews.org/

 

[Boltlady]

It would help case if you would just state your case instead of c&p what you read online.

Myself, I use what Jews say is in the Torah.

http://www.truetorahjews.org/

write on, you have brought out a very important point. In each religion there are ancient writings that segments of that particular religion will use as a guide. In some cases those writings portray the religion as a loving, peaceful way of life concerned with our fellow man. Unfortunately it's just as true that each of the various religions have writings that are vicious and advocate killing off those who are 'different'. In short, there are Jews and there are Jews, the same as there are Christians and there are Christians, and there are Muslims and there are Muslims.

Those of us here that tend to bring out the atrocities committed by Israel are well aware of that and do not consider all Jews to be of that ilk. We have all tried to make it plain that we do not hate Jews as such but we don't have much use for Israel. It's the Zionists who try to present it as all one and the same but we know that it's not. The people here who keep defending Israeli actions against any and all criticisms do try to put it all into one basket.

You have much the same with Muslims. The majority of them are peaceful loving people and do not believe in violence. There are those who believe that everybody who isn't a Muslim should be killed off.

It isn't any better with the Christians. You have the gentle, peaceful souls and then they are contrasted with those who are very war like.

In each case there are ancient writings someplace that give credence to which ever direction they tend to follow. Sometimes it's just a matter of who screams the loudest. Not enough people differentiate between the various types and they tend to paint a whole group the same color as that of the 'screamers'.

 

[Boltlady]

Let me think, which would I rather have used against me, deadly rockets or sunk juice.
Hmmm, I guess I would go with the skunk juice!
I would like to meet anyone that would pick rockets, that indeed I would have to see.

You're just not getting it Fast Eddy. The people that the skunk juice is being used on are not the ones firing the rockets. They're the people who are having their land consistently stolen to be used for the illegal settlements. The Israelis just want them to go away so that they can have all of the land. Their lives are made as miserable as possible to that end.

 

[AIL]

Okaaay, so it's NOT reality that radical Islamists are conducting war and terrorism and piracy against the perceived infidels?
What motivates semi-reasonable people to bury their heads in the sand and condone the actions of these homicidal and obviously misogynistic maniacs??
Is it nihilism, a push for global anarchy, or the unwillingness to confront a stark harsh reality?

Your are a believer in your government that makes you gullible to its propaganda and after all the lies of the bush administration and the current lies now about ISIS Ukraine, Afghanistan you still have no clue as to what is really happening.

Did you stop to think that every thing that Israel is doing to the Palestinians is illegal Blockade in Gaza and the constant stealing of land in the West Bank . Your government protects Israel and you just swallow that bullshit all the time. Shit must tastes good for you so please continue swallowing your governments bullshit.

 

[LanceFreeman]

The following is an excerpt from the Reverend Ted Pike’s article titled ‘Why the Mid-East Bleeds’. It takes the reader to the heart of why Talmudic (Zionist) Jews are so blood thirsty, heartless, manipulative, lie without compunction, and are without compassion when it come to the suffering and plight of Arabs and other non-Jews, and why ordinary Americans, who possess a Christian-instilled sense of justice and fair play, cannot fathom their irrational behavior:


Talmudic Racism: What No One Talks About

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By Rev. Ted Pike

Racism did not enter Judaism until the generation of scribes and Pharisees who migrated from Babylon several centuries before Christ; they infused Jewish religion and culture with the idea that Gentiles are morally inferior and polluting on the basis of race. The Old Testament makes no such claim, warning only against the influence of Gentile idolatry on the Hebrews. The Pharisees introduced a racial superiority into Judaism unheard of in the Old Testament.

As a result, Jews in Christ’s time were deeply racist, convinced of their intrinsic superiority to the Gentile “dogs.”1 The good Jew did not even talk to a Samaritan.2 If a Gentile were beaten, robbed and thrown into a ditch, a godly Jew, fearful of becoming “unclean,” passed by on the other side of the road.3

Talmud Enshrines Racism

Unfortunately, the racist revolution of the Pharisees became embodied in the Babylonian Talmud, the vast, rambling compendium of Pharisaic law. Today the Talmud and its mystical companion, the Zohar or Kamala, are the greatest spiritual, ethical, and legal guides for observant Jews. They are of much greater authority to such Jews than the Old Testament.

Popular Jewish writer Herman Wouk comments on the Talmud’s preeminence over all branches of Judaism: “The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart’s blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we observe -- whether we are orthodox or conservative or reform or merely spasmodic sentimentalists -- we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.”4

Racism in Israel

The world is baffled why, in Israel today, the once persecuted Jews have become persecutors. Highly educated religious Jews, especially in the government and among the ultra Orthodox West Bank settlers, now treat the Palestinians much worse than they would treat any animal.

In his film, Gaza Strip, veteran filmmaker James Longley graphically documents how the Israeli military shoots Arab children through the head for the crime of throwing stones. While his crew filmed, Israeli helicopters dropped canisters of debilitating nerve gas on the inhabitants of Gaza.

The explanation for such behavior is found in the Talmud. The Talmud teaches the superiority and divine right of Jews over Gentiles: the Jew is holy because of God’s racial covenant with Israel. According to the Talmud, Gentiles are unclean because, unlike Jews, they were not present at Mt. Sinai. By standing on the mount, the Jews were perpetually cleansed from lustful thoughts.5

In its article on “Gentile,” the authoritative Jewish Encyclopedia summarizes the Talmud’s view of Jewish moral superiority. “The Talmud comments on the untruthfulness of Gentiles ... and contrasts it with the reputation of a Jew: ‘The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth.’”6 “The Talmudic writers,” this article continues, “say that ‘ ... only Israelites are men’ ... Gentiles they classed not as men but as barbarians.”7 Rabbi Johanan ben Zakki says that if anyone teaches the Talmud to a Gentile, “such a person deserves death.”8 Judah ben Illai recommends the daily recital of the benediction: “Blessed be thou ... who has not made me a goi [or Gentile].”9 Jews are so holy, the Talmud says, “he who smites an Israelite on the cheek is as though he has thus assaulted the divine presence.”10

Talmud Dehumanizes Arabs

Humanity is shocked by how the Israeli military criminalizes Arab youth, often shooting them down as if they were subhuman. Yet this is exactly how the Talmud teaches Jews to regard Gentile children. “The Talmud outlawed the issue [or children] of a Gentile as that of a beast.”11

During the intifada uprising in Gaza in 1988, the world was horrified when Israeli soldiers buried alive four Palestinian youths. Yet the Talmud sanctions Jewish murder of Gentiles. The Talmud says “if a Jew throws his neighbor into a pit that contains a ladder, then hastens to remove the ladder, he is not liable for the death of his neighbor.”12 The Jew is also permitted to roll a large stone over the pit opening, guaranteeing the victim will not survive.

According to the Talmud, “those who deny the Torah and the prophets of Israel, the law is that they should be killed and those who have the power of life and death should have them killed, and if this cannot be done, they should be led to their death by deceptive methods.”13

The Talmud’s homicidal hatred of Gentiles leaps from its pages. The Jewish Encyclopedia quotes one of the Talmud’s most respectable rabbis, Simeon ben-Yohai: “The best among the Gentiles deserves to be killed. The best of snakes ought to have its head crushed.”14

How Relevant is Talmud to Jews Today?

How relevant to Jews today is such medieval bloodlust?

The majority of Jews in America have probably never read the Talmud or even heard of Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai. For most of assimilated American Jewry, Judaism involves support of Israel and left-wing causes, but possesses a largely social, not spiritual, obligation.15

But in New York and especially Israel, it is very different. Today in Israel, during the annual festival of Lag Ba Omar, tens of thousands of orthodox Jews assemble in Meron, the traditional burial place of Simeon ben Yohai, where they honor his memory through song, dance, and exhortation. The prestigious Encyclopedia Judaica describes ben Yohai as one of the giants of Judaism for all time.16

Far from being outdated, ben Yohai’s call to slaughter the “best of the Gentiles” is the Talmudic text that authorizes Israel’s policy of killing innocent Arabs, including children. A government manual for modern Israeli soldiers includes a summary of Ben Yohai’s teaching: “In war when our forces storm the enemy, they are allowed and even enjoined by the Halakah to kill even good civilians, that is civilians who are ostensibly good.”17

The Talmud clearly does more than dehumanize Palestinians. It also dehumanizes the educated and religious Jews who are guided by its homicidal racism. The Talmud is the scalpel that makes the Mideast bleed. [Continued---]