So there's certainly more evidence that Trump was "tapped..."

[Raoul_Luke]

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/guardian-fbi-asked-warrant-monitor-trump-aides

Than there is that Trump's campaign colluded with the Rooskies:

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...llusion-between-trump-and-russia-890509379597

But boy if you watched the news shows today, you'd think it was the other way around...

 

[RickWA]

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/guardian-fbi-asked-warrant-monitor-trump-aides

Than there is that Trump's campaign colluded with the Rooskies:

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...llusion-between-trump-and-russia-890509379597

But boy if you watched the news shows today, you'd think it was the other way around...

That's just the lefty way. Then these clowns dare refer to others as "deniers", "faith-based", and "anti-science".

Don't crane your neck too hard looking for integrity there...

 

[Dawg]

boy Θ may be digging a hole for himself deeper than Nixon, wire tapping (monitoring) and now voter fraud:


http://www.dcclothesline.com/2013/0...gistered-to-vote-in-d-c-but-barry-soetoro-is/

 

[Boca]

Than there is that Trump's campaign colluded with the Rooskies:
But boy if you watched the news shows today, you'd think it was the other way around...

This has gotten ridiculous. The elephant in the room is that a political party controlling the executive branch where 5 different intelligence agencies were surveilling and gathering all the information they could on private citizens of the other political party in an election year ... spying is the word.

That is the issue and I'm glad to see that two Senators are going to get to the bottom of it.

Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), the top Republican and Democrat on the Judiciary Committee’s crime and terrorism panel, wrote Wednesday to FBI Director James B. Comey and acting deputy attorney general Dana Boente asking for “copies of any warrant applications and court orders — redacted as necessary . . . related to wiretaps of President Trump, the Trump Campaign, or Trump Tower.”

“We would take any abuse of wiretapping authorities for political purposes very seriously,” Graham and Whitehouse wrote. “We would be equally alarmed to learn that a court found enough evidence of criminal activity or contact with a foreign power to legally authorize a wiretap of President Trump, the Trump Campaign, or Trump Tower.”
​

The operative words there are "criminal activity" and "legally authorize" . Forget about wiretapping, it's a gratuitous red herring and it's irrelevant. Senators Graham and Whitehouse recognize that and used it. What they really want to know is what probable cause of criminal activity was posited by Loretta Lynch? And what judge signed off on it?

You cannot legally authorize a warrant to snoop on anyone for any purpose without probable cause of criminal activity!

To my knowledge it's not a crime to talk to, meet with. or engage in commerce with anyone, Russian or not. Unless of course there are sanctions in place that prohibit trade.

If there are then Bill Clinton should explain why he received $500, 000 for a 20 minute speech in Russia, and why the Clinton's made millions off the Uranium One deal.

​

 

[Dawg]

they bringing all the players out now, "SONGBIRD" has landed:


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rove-it/ar-AAob5nR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

that proves Trump is correct................IMO

 

[Deleted member 21794]

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/guardian-fbi-asked-warrant-monitor-trump-aides

Than there is that Trump's campaign colluded with the Rooskies:

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...llusion-between-trump-and-russia-890509379597

But boy if you watched the news shows today, you'd think it was the other way around...

I had a feeling Trump knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he threw out the wiretapping accusation against Obama. I have a feeling the leftist media is going to regret making a big issue of this.

 

[Dawg]

I had a feeling Trump knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he threw out the wiretapping accusation against Obama. I have a feeling the leftist media is going to regret making a big issue of this.

appears Trump is always 2 or 3 steps ahead of their game..........

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

ok everybody together JAIL TIME for obama.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

appears Trump is always 2 or 3 steps ahead of their game..........

It does appear that way. The President will say something the media calls it ridiculous and a week or two later what he says slowly unfounded right in front of our eyes.

 

[Dawg]

It does appear that way. The President will say something the media calls it ridiculous and a week or two later what he says slowly unfounded right in front of our eyes.

I figured weeks back everything was going to backfire on the damn libs

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/12/gps-da-russians-spoke-to-hillarys-campaign-too/?

libs hole getting deep

 

[Boca]

appears Trump is always 2 or 3 steps ahead of their game..........

Has been for over a year and they still don't get it. It's incredible! Without the 140 character mother of all tweets and the 24/7 outrage over it, all the Congressional committees looking into this Russian crap about interference wouldn't have rolled into their investigations the Obama Administration's proven by the record attempted interference by illegally spying on the opposition.

Trump is scary smart!. His tweet turned the tables? No wonder he's filthy rich! He can play anyone he wants to like a fiddle! If the Wall is built, Mexico will pay for it, they just don't know it yet.

But I really think it's a God thing and all the Glory be to Him alone.

 

[RickWA]

I had a feeling Trump knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he threw out the wiretapping accusation against Obama. I have a feeling the leftist media is going to regret making a big issue of this.

NOTHING will come of this. Our government protects the entrenched and the powerful. We will see partisan investigations and/or witch hunts frim time to time, but nothing ever actuates further prosecution.

They protect one another. All of them.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

NOTHING will come of this. Our government protects the entrenched and the powerful. We will see partisan investigations and/or witch hunts frim time to time, but nothing ever actuates further prosecution.

They protect one another. All of them.

And Trump wasn't supposed to be president

 

[georgephillip]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mccain-trump-wiretapping-235965

"McCain: Trump could clear up wiretapping claim 'in a minute'"

"President Donald Trump could immediately clear up whether former President Barack Obama illegally wiretapped Trump Tower phones during the campaign, Sen. John McCain said Sunday.

"Trump leveled the explosive charge against his predecessor with no evidence or elaboration in a tweet last weekend. The White House has called on Congress to investigate whether Trump’s allegation is true but has yet to substantiate the charge in any way.


“'I have no reason to believe that the charge is true, but I also believe that the president of the United States could clear this up in a minute,' McCain told host Jake Tapper on CNN’s 'State of the Union.' 'All he has to do is pick up the phone, call the director of the CIA, director of national intelligence and say, ‘OK, what happened?’ Because they certainly should know whether the former president of the United States was wiretapping Trump Tower.'”

 

[Arkady]

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/guardian-fbi-asked-warrant-monitor-trump-aides

Than there is that Trump's campaign colluded with the Rooskies:

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...llusion-between-trump-and-russia-890509379597

But boy if you watched the news shows today, you'd think it was the other way around...

Trump claimed there was a tapp [sic]. He's been asked repeatedly to provide evidence of that, and over a week after the claim, he hasn't provided any. Isn't it time for him either to substantiate his claim or retract it?

 

[Deleted member 21794]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mccain-trump-wiretapping-235965

"McCain: Trump could clear up wiretapping claim 'in a minute'"

"President Donald Trump could immediately clear up whether former President Barack Obama illegally wiretapped Trump Tower phones during the campaign, Sen. John McCain said Sunday.

"Trump leveled the explosive charge against his predecessor with no evidence or elaboration in a tweet last weekend. The White House has called on Congress to investigate whether Trump’s allegation is true but has yet to substantiate the charge in any way.


“'I have no reason to believe that the charge is true, but I also believe that the president of the United States could clear this up in a minute,' McCain told host Jake Tapper on CNN’s 'State of the Union.' 'All he has to do is pick up the phone, call the director of the CIA, director of national intelligence and say, ‘OK, what happened?’ Because they certainly should know whether the former president of the United States was wiretapping Trump Tower.'”

John McCain is an idiot. My guess is Trump doesn't want this cleared up in a minute. He is perfectly content to let the media walk into yet another trap and have them make fools of themselves.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Trump claimed there was a tapp [sic]. He's been asked repeatedly to provide evidence of that, and over a week after the claim, he hasn't provided any. Isn't it time for him either to substantiate his claim or retract it?

Why should there be a time limit on proving his claim? How about we give him as much time to prove his as we've given Obama to prove Obamacare will save each family $2,500 per year? Of course, Obamacare is more complex and I'm admittedly being a little silly. So how about we give Trump as much time as Harry Reid has gotten to prove Romney hasn't paid his taxes in ten years? How about we give him as much time as we're giving Spamature and the other PHLCs to prove Trump colluded with Russian agents to tilt the election to him?

 

[georgephillip]

John McCain is an idiot. My guess is Trump doesn't want this cleared up in a minute. He is perfectly content to let the media walk into yet another trap and have them make fools of themselves.

Isn't Trump obligated to provide evidence or retract his charges against Obama?

 

[Arkady]

I had a feeling Trump knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he threw out the wiretapping accusation against Obama. I have a feeling the leftist media is going to regret making a big issue of this.

This shouldn't be a partisan issue. Left or right, we should all want to know the truth. There are several options, all of which would have very serious implications for the nation:

(1) Trump wasn't tapped and someone in the government lied to him about such an important matter.
(2) Trump wasn't tapped, and either lied or foolishly made that incendiary claim falsely based on poor evidence (e.g., rumors circulating in the disreputable conservative rags).
(3) Trump was tapped, but legally under FISA, meaning an independent court saw evidence suggesting probable cause to believe there'd been criminal interactions between someone in Trump Tower and a security threat abroad.
(4) Trump was tapped, without the required FISA warrant, and without administration approval, meaning rogue elements in law enforcement were breaking the law behind their bosses' backs.
(5) Trump was tapped, without the required FISA warrant, but with Obama's permission, which means Obama, like Bush before him, is guilty of felony wiretapping.

Let me know if you think I'm missing other options. But, whichever it is, that's a very serious matter, and one so tied up with partisan issues that it's hard to believe we'd get a credible investigation from the administration itself, nor from a Congressional inquiry run by politicians. So, isn't this a clear case for a non-partisan special prosecutor? Such a person could delve into this, hearing secret evidence, and ultimately report in a way that should be fairly credible on both sides of the aisle. Will you join me in calling for that?

I'd nominate William Cohen to run the investigation. As a former Secretary of Defense, he's held top security clearances. As a lifelong Republican and former senior Republican senator, he is credible with Republicans. As a member of the Clinton administration and a man who has always tried to stay above crass partisanship, he is credible with the Democrats. And as a member of the Partnership for a Secure America, he's a guy who has kept himself sharp when it comes to national security issues.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

This shouldn't be a partisan issue. Left or right, we should all want to know the truth. There are several options, all of which would have very serious implications for the nation:

(1) Trump wasn't tapped and someone in the government lied to him about such an important matter.
(2) Trump wasn't tapped, and either lied or foolishly made that incendiary claim falsely based on poor evidence (e.g., rumors circulating in the disreputable conservative rags).
(3) Trump was tapped, but legally under FISA, meaning an independent court saw evidence suggesting probable cause to believe there'd been criminal interactions between someone in Trump Tower and a security threat abroad.
(4) Trump was tapped, without the required FISA warrant, and without administration approval, meaning rogue elements in law enforcement were breaking the law behind their bosses' backs.
(5) Trump was tapped, without the required FISA warrant, but with Obama's permission, which means Obama, like Bush before him, is guilty of felony wiretapping.

Let me know if you think I'm missing other options. But, whichever it is, that's a very serious matter, and one so tied up with partisan issues that it's hard to believe we'd get a credible investigation from the administration itself, or a Congressional inquiry run by politicians. So, isn't this a clear case for a non-partisan special prosecutor? Such a person could delve into this, hearing secret evidence, and ultimately report in a way that should be fairly credible on both sides of the aisle. Will you join me in calling for that?

I'd nominate William Cohen to run the investigation. As a former Secretary of Defense, he's held top security clearances. As a lifelong Republican and former senior Republican senator, he is credible with Republicans. As a member of the Clinton administration and a man who has always tried to stay above crass partisanship, he is credible with the Democrats. And as a member of the Partnership for a Secure America, he's a guy who has kept himself sharp when it comes to national security issues.

I think you've about covered the options. I think the only difference between you and I is I have popcorn ready and am more willing to sit back and enjoy the show.